Pyramid

[blackchisel97]

We are a tight knit group here. Joining heads may attain a result that individually may not ever happen. I very much respect you all.
Sucahyo with his 3000 posts takes the cake. We'll help you eat it, Ha ha ha!

The Antenna Coil needs to be "rung" in order to activate it, then Resonance will keep it ringing. That is the nature of the beast. The dimmer idea is not meant as permanent fixture, but only used to jump start it. Fractured waveform or not, it's worth a try. I already use dimmers in my house, so, no extra expense, there. All transformer primaries are short circuits, aren't they? Yet they work. Two inverse coils will cancel something out, but also let something else come through. But What?
If Russel mentioned to the President at that time, that he had discovered a better form of power transformer for the production electrical energy, shouldn't we pay close attention, and also do something about it?
This is not a small thing we are working on, but there may be a lot going on against us. Never the less, success is inevitable, one way or another, sooner or later.

About the tiny tetrahedron video: Yes, most likely it was just a hoax, but a very good trick all the same. It caught my attention. I can't find it again. What is too good to be true, usually, is not true.

If Alum is actually caustic it may not be a permanent solution towards higher cement battery output. Can anyone confirm that?

Aluminum foil may be negative by nature, but it can also store a lot of energy as well as conduce a positive voltage, such as in capacitors.
Copper sheets are expensive, but if really needed, then it can be used. Three foot copper tube tetrahedron frame may be enough to do the trick.

The alum we're using is an Ammonium aluminum sulfate. Potassium alum doesn't work the same.

I was thinking even a frame covered with copper foil should do the job - Copper Sheet, Copper Flashing, Copper Sheets, Copper Foil Rolls, Copper Sheeting for Arts and Crafts and Various Applications.
I had to finance a few other things and this is still on my purchase list
I ran some test with my coil (which is not built as described as far as dimensions but following geometry). There are energy fields, quite strong inside - around the cones crossing area. Bases/apexes are also active. When one hand is held near and other extended in the air (like an antenna) the sensation in the hand close to the coil can get prickling enough to make you move away. Almost like a sudden jolt from JT (not that powerful, but unexpected). I'll try to make 3' tetrahedron either today or tomorrow. I don't think I have enough wire to make large cones to fit description.
There may be specific freq. required to ring it, not just a random, such as 60Hz. My tests with cones showed that they resonate in 500 -700kHz range. I was getting response much higher in amplitude than my function generator is capable of supplying and two cones connected with apexes or bases created nice oscillating tank to power LED from cement cell. BTW this cell is almost 2mths old and dry. I was pulling 5mA for couple hours before it started to drop by 0.5mA.
There is an answer in cone shape, water, vortex. We need to combine what we know or search for more clues.


Vtech

[NickZ]

Bc:
Thanks for the reply on your batteries and antenna coils. Your findings are interesting, especially the effect of the tingleling felt upon touching the coil.
At least it's a start in the right direction. I will also make one ASAP.
I just finished making some new beach sand cement batteries, this time adding baking power and a 3/16" thick copper tube spiral coil that runs through itself and out the top. They are already putting out some juice but I'll place them in the oven to dry overnight.
My previous cement batteries also started out fine, but after an hour or two of lighting an Led, they drop down to about half the voltage, still dimly lighting the led, and stay at that level until they are disconnected, Then they will recharge themselves, and bounce back to normal. They will take a 4 or 5 volt charge and will hold it for some days if no load is present.

[blackchisel97]

Bc:
Thanks for the reply on your batteries and antenna coils. Your findings are interesting, especially the effect of the tingleling felt upon touching the coil.

Not touching! just holding hand close to it.
Actually, we don't need tetrahedron. Its shape and dimension are just a guidelines for this coil. I was looking again at Russell coils and they are basically two Bashar coils connected. However, I found this old picture a bit confusing. Description says: inner coils are wound from the ends toward the center in opposite directions. Outer coils are wound from the center toward ends in opposite directions Now, if you look at the picture (Russell) - Fig.126 and 127, you see continuous wind in same direction (with arrows on the wire)but there is also additional direction indicator in the center and both ends which suggests opposite direction of something. How would you interpret that? Also, when you study assembled coils you can see the resemblance of Bashar description: Start winding from one base, when you reach the apex move over toward circumference and continue winding the same direction. So, this would be one coil set. Do the same with other side but in opposite direction. As a result you'll have two Bashar coils wound in opposite directions.
And a quote: Two coils were wound on cones.The apices of these conical coils were pointed towards each other and power was applied so that bucking fields were created by the collision of opposite magnetic fields. Very fine iron filings were dropped into the gap between the coils and a levitating sphere was produced. When the coils were slowly pulled apart, an oval followed by a sphere surrounded by a disk appeared.
And another one:
"Russell also developed and tested counter-wound sets of coils, each in the shape of overlapping cones. The device was based on the "power multiplication principle" discussed in the many books that he had written.

According to a memo dated in 1961, the device worked: "because of the false concept of gravity which assumes it to be force of attraction which pulls inward from within instead of a cyclic force which controls the expansion of cold into heat, and the expansion of heat into cold...

Nature's first principle of power production and the construction of matter is to produce heat from the cold of space. The heat thus generated radiates back into cold to complete the wave cycle which automatically repeats itself in this ageless universe of infinite continuity.

On September 10, 1961, Walter and (his wife) Lao Russell reported to their contacts at NORAD, that the coils had worked and that the President of the United States could announce to the world that a "greater, safer power than atomic energy" could be provided for industry and transportation. The Russell's were convinced that they had found and demonstrated a new source of energy and a conversion process for what is now known as the zero point energy."

This experiment has been described in his book - Atomic Suicide.
Almost forgot, we need to use DC not AC.


Pleas don't mind my post number. It would come up sooner or later.....

Vtech

[blackchisel97]

Some more from Russell:

Division and Multiplication

The inward radial direction is North - the compressive direction of gravity which multiplies potential by compressing light waves radially into smaller volumes of greater frequencies. The outward radial direction is South - the expansive direction of radiation which divides potential by expanding light waves into larger volumes of lesser frequencies.


The Twelve Laws of Change of the Infinite Universe

1. One Infinity manifests itself into complementary and antagonistic tendencies, yin and yang, in its endless change.

2. Yin and yang are manifested continuously from the eternal movement of one infinite universe.

3. Yin represents centrifugality. Yang represents centripetality. Yin and yang together produce energy and all phenomena.

4. Yin attracts yang. Yang attracts yin.

5. Yin repels yin. Yang repels yang.

6. Yin and yang combined in varying proportions produce different phenomena. The attraction and repulsion among phenomena is proportional to the difference of yin and yang forces.

7. All phenomena are ephemeral, constantly changing their constitution of yin and yang forces; yin changes into yang, yang changes into yin.

8. Nothing is solely yin or solely yang. Everything is composed of both tendencies in varying degrees.

9. There is nothing neuter. Either yin or yang is in excess in every occurrence.

10. Large yin attracts small yin. Large yang attracts small yang.

11. Extreme yin produces yang, and extreme yang produces yin.

12. All physical manifestations are yang at the center, and yin at the surface."

"In the fall of 1959, General Chapman, Colonel Fry, Major Sargent, Major Cripe, and others from NORAD in Colorado Springs, attended a meeting at Swannanoa, Virginia (University Of Science And Philosophy) at the invitation of Walter Russell. At this meeting Russell explained the workings of a device he proposed to build to take advantage of the vacuum state energy, and the two directional movement of energy from gravitation, (generation), to radiation, (degeneration). During the following year Russell, his wife, Lao, and their assistants built the device. The prototype that was built consisted of two sets of dual and magnetically-sexed coils." - The idea behind the coils is to simulate the life cycle of the electric current - what we have are male and female overlapping cones with coupling and canceling fields - "energy exists in male and female vortices that form between this dimension and other dimensions"

Russell said "the universe consists of electricity, and nature multiplies energies, by concentrating this electricity (or space energy) - until she forms matter, like for example a star or a planet".

"Nature's first principle of power production and the construction of matter is to produce heat from the cold of space. The heat thus generated radiates back into cold to complete the wave cycle which automatically repeats itself in this ageless universe of infinite continuity." (very similar to the theories of Victor Schauberger)

YouTube - Russellian Science: TEC Breakdown of Russellian Science, Part 6, Fukushima Nuclear Disaster


Vtech

[NickZ]

Yes, I had read the same information, and also reached the same confused conclusion, that something is not quite right, either with Russels diagram information or the way it was stated. Possibly even on purpose, which would not surprise me, at all.
In any case Bashar's coil description is easier to follow, or understand. He will be in San Fransisco in a couple of days. Hopefully he will have a chance to elaborate further on the next step of the process.
First thing is to make the one thing that we know for sure: 2 foot high inverse coil. Whether or not the tetrahedron or pyramid is really needed will hopefully soon be known. Since it is expensive to build with copper sheets, just wait a bit and see. Other guys are also hot on the trail.
@Sucahyo: Is your coil the minimum size of 2 feet high? Any comments?

[blackchisel97]

I think I got it. One set of cones wound in one direction, say cw, just like Bashar explained. Second set of cones wound in opposite direction. No tetrahedron is needed, no copper to cover it. Just coils.


Vtech

[sucahyo]

lol don't remind me how talkfull I am.

NickZ, cemenite:

http://www.energeticforum.com/health-fitness-nutrition/7387-cemenite-female-orgone-device.html

I think high powered frequency generator on a coil around crystal may have more influence to human than weather.


Interesting info for tetahedron.

My bashar coil is only a plam size. And I build it both cone in the same direction.

Thanks for bashar antenna energy info and Russel quote Vtech . Looks like the cone apex have more influence. can you feel anything with the base side, Vtech?

I will try again with two cone with different direction. My pendulum reading show each apex has similar polarity for two cone with similar winding direction.


Edit: Wait, I am confuse with this opposite and same winding term.

The second picture is opposite or similar winding direction?



If you merge the first picture cone coil together it won't result to second picture:

[blackchisel97]

According to Dr Russell as well as 1/2 Russel which is Bashar Let say you start winding from the base (not practical but to simplify explanation) and continue CW toward the apex. Now you move wire (bend) from the apex toward circumference and continue winding down, toward base keeping CW direction (motion of your hand). This is your first coil set. Second is done the same way (starting from the base and winding up) but you go CCW. Now you have two sets which be positioned close to each other. At least this is the way I understand.


Vtech

[NickZ]

If each coil is wound in opposite (CW and CCW) directions it should be ok.

I am finding that if several of the cement batteries are connected in series, the voltage will be raised, but not the current. So the leds are still not much brighter, even if several batteries are connect together. The little amount of current they start with is quickly lost, so is the voltage, from about 4 volts down to only a two volts. Tomorrow I'll try connecting two batteries in parallel and a two in series to see what happens. New ones are in the oven drying out, so far they have slightly more voltage (1/2 volt more) than the previous ones.

[blackchisel97]

If each coil is wound in opposite (CW and CCW) directions it should be ok.

I am finding that if several of the cement batteries are connected in series, the voltage will be raised, but not the current. So the leds are still not much brighter, even if several batteries are connect together. The little amount of current they start with is quickly lost, so is the voltage, from about 4 volts down to only a two volts. Tomorrow I'll try connecting two batteries in parallel and a two in series to see what happens. New ones are in the oven drying out, so far they have slightly more voltage (1/2 volt more) than the previous ones.

Are you running LED's with oscillator or directly? Those cells are comfortable in 5mA range and can hold that steady for hours. Running LED directly even if battery is capable of doing so will result in rapid loss.


Vtech

[sucahyo]

According to Dr Russell as well as 1/2 Russel which is Bashar Let say you start winding from the base (not practical but to simplify explanation) and continue CW toward the apex. Now you move wire (bend) from the apex toward circumference and continue winding down, toward base keeping CW direction (motion of your hand). This is your first coil set. Second is done the same way (starting from the base and winding up) but you go CCW. Now you have two sets which be positioned close to each other. At least this is the way I understand.


Vtech

Sorry, I got more confuse. You mean two space antenna coil with both have different winding?

So you will NOT build the second picture? Because it change direction after the apex?

[blackchisel97]

Sorry, I got more confuse. You mean two space antenna coil with both have different winding?

So you will NOT build the second picture? Because it change direction after the apex?

@sucahyo What you see on this pic. are two overlapping inverted cones. Both are wound in same direction and continuous fashion. You wind clockwise all the way up and continue same way going back down ( exactly like Bashar explained). Second set of cones is wound counterclockwise all the way. Now, when two sets are placed together you have two cones with bases touching and two with apexes touching. Each cone has a partner wound in opposite direction. So, you have male and female side of inner as well outer coils.
I built the second coil last night and placed them in horizontal plane spaced apart by a distance of winding. EF are just as I expected. When I pull them further apart there is a field in between but when they are closer together this field emanates like a sphere around the center. There are also fields in the areas where cones are overlapping as well as the ends. Now, my dilemma is; how and where to energize this. If I leave both being connected as per Bashar directions I have two sets of opposing coils, each in reverse-parallel connection. Russell have mentioned that circuit needed to be energized. Also, in his description he is referring to "inner" and "outer" coils - which (IMO) are represented not by each set of inverted cones but when this is assembled and you're having two cones with apexes facing and two cones with bases facing each other. I have used white and black wire for the purpose of clarity. If I bring both sets close together I have black coils (inner) with apexes facing out and white (outer) with apexes facing center. So this resembles my earlier experiments with conical coils attached to each other with bases or apexes. The only difference is that when I was working with cone coils I've been using both windings or have them connected in oscillating tank circuit. When they remain connected as per Bashar something doesn't feel right. Like a closed loop instead of open. Maybe I shouldn't try to marry both concepts together (Bashar coil and Russell device) despite the resemblance




Vtech

[Golden Mean]

@sucahyo What you see on this pic. are two overlapping inverted cones. Both are wound in same direction and continuous fashion. You wind clockwise all the way up and continue same way going back down ( exactly like Bashar explained). Second set of cones is wound counterclockwise all the way. Now, when two sets are placed together you have two cones with bases touching and two with apexes touching. Each cone has a partner wound in opposite direction. So, you have male and female side of inner as well outer coils.
I built the second coil last night and placed them in horizontal plane spaced apart by a distance of winding. EF are just as I expected. When I pull them further apart there is a field in between but when they are closer together this field emanates like a sphere around the center. There are also fields in the areas where cones are overlapping as well as the ends. Now, my dilemma is; how and where to energize this. If I leave both being connected as per Bashar directions I have two sets of opposing coils, each in reverse-parallel connection. Russell have mentioned that circuit needed to be energized. Also, in his description he is referring to "inner" and "outer" coils - which (IMO) are represented not by each set of inverted cones but when this is assembled and you're having two cones with apexes facing and two cones with bases facing each other. I have used white and black wire for the purpose of clarity. If I bring both sets close together I have black coils (inner) with apexes facing out and white (outer) with apexes facing center. So this resembles my earlier experiments with conical coils attached to each other with bases or apexes. The only difference is that when I was working with cone coils I've been using both windings or have them connected in oscillating tank circuit. When they remain connected as per Bashar something doesn't feel right. Like a closed loop instead of open. Maybe I shouldn't try to marry both concepts together (Bashar coil and Russell device) despite the resemblance




Vtech

Perhaps you could stimulate it using resonant frequencies? Instead of directly energizing it with an electrical connection, find the resonant frequency of one of the cones and project that at it. In other words, let it act as an antenna and see what it does. Perhaps it is self-entraining once set in motion? I don't know, just throwing out ideas.
Looks like a fun project to play around with and reminds me of the Big Secret Coil by Loohan (http://www.whale.to/b/big_secret_h.html).

Thanks for sharing.
~ Golden

[blackchisel97]

[QUOTE=Golden Mean;137507]Perhaps you could stimulate it using resonant frequencies? Instead of directly energizing it with an electrical connection, find the resonant frequency of one of the cones and project that at it. In other words, let it act as an antenna and see what it does. Perhaps it is self-entraining once set in motion? I don't know, just throwing out ideas.
Looks like a fun project to play around with and reminds me of the Big Secret Coil by Loohan - The Big Secret

I corrected above URL to open properly. End bracket wasn't needed.
Loohan coils are similar in concept and i have built couple of them before.

@Golden Mean, Yes, that's what I was doing with my copper cones before and I feel that it should be the case here as well. I'll disconnect them from their current configuration and try to stimulate to resonate. Resonating coils may be subject to something coupling with their field and eventually manifesting itself. I hope

Thank you for ringing in


Vtech

[sucahyo]

@sucahyo What you see on this pic. are two overlapping inverted cones. Both are wound in same direction and continuous fashion. You wind clockwise all the way up and continue same way going back down ( exactly like Bashar explained). Second set of cones is wound counterclockwise all the way. Now, when two sets are placed together you have two cones with bases touching and two with apexes touching. Each cone has a partner wound in opposite direction. So, you have male and female side of inner as well outer coils.

Thanks for clarification Vtech .

Will you make the one with winding like this 3D version bellow?


Notice that it is different from yours.

If we look always from the top, the winding goes CW as the loop get smaller to reach the top, and then starting the winding again also CW from the top to get smaller to the bottom.

If we trace the wire route from bottom standing cone and always see from the top; your first one CW going up, CCW going down; your second one CCW going up and CW going down.

I built the second coil last night and placed them in horizontal plane spaced apart by a distance of winding. EF are just as I expected. When I pull them further apart there is a field in between but when they are closer together this field emanates like a sphere around the center.

Do they both have same energy pattern?

When they remain connected as per Bashar something doesn't feel right. Like a closed loop instead of open. Maybe I shouldn't try to marry both concepts together (Bashar coil and Russell device) despite the resemblance

So the close loop interconnect both bashar antenna?