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I freely admit I was beaten by my own mechanical ineptitude and lack of machine tools in this attempt at a “variation” on a machine I thought probably worked,
The machine I refer to is Gary’s Magnetic motor Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor It is the first simple motor the one that is purely magnetic and mechanical I refer to. After all there really isn’t too much to focus on and with the combined efforts and thoughts of this forum this could be easily be the one to topple.Oh by the way please try and attempt the little practical bits It will help me and Gary
to explain and really only needs a couple of magnets and perhaps a coin .
We have a lot more useful materials available to us today than Wesley would have had in the 1870s. Most notably plastic and SS, And as for the rare earth magnets we have available Wesley could only have dreamt about them and drooled. Like Tesla he would have had to do it with wood and brass, soft Iron and a phenomenal amount of patience,
Patience that we can only wonder about in our fast paced modern world. We are the ones who have no time to stand and stare! (Never mind think)
Intentionally I am not going to restudy the text or try to find the original articles I was reading 10 years ago a/They are there not there anymore b/ I may lose the plot
Initially I thought well how hard can this be? Two horse shoe magnets and a hinge. Very difficult I promise you, just take a piece of shim (or your coin) and try to stand it up between any two magnets you may have laying about, this is effectively what Wesley calls “The neutral zone” It can be done but you must admit Its very difficult. Wesley had to accomplish this remarkable effect when the magnet and the shim are both moving and with perfect timing whilst at the same time devising a cloak to hide his method in order to protect his invention. Well done Wesley It’s worked for 130 odd years but I trust you’ll forgive if I try to uncover your secret now!
Both Wesley and Tesla had this in common … They were very ill at one time. From Tesla’s autobiography http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/my_inventions.pdf you will find that his sensory perception was so advanced after the illness it tortured him. He could hear a watch ticking three rooms away, could hear a fire miles away, could not walk under bridges because of the pressure I concluded that perhaps Wesley was likewise affected, although I haven’t checked the dates to see if the time this virus was floating about would concur with both of them. Neither do I know how quickly it would transfer from Europe to the USA (or visa versa)
With This Phenomenal perception it was not a quantum leap for me to envisage both men being able to see or sense “magnetic waves” just as some can detect Dave lampbright’s waves In his gravity thread and some can't.
After all Howard Johnson had the benefit of a machine to see magnetic waves (after a fashion) very soon after that came the “magnetic gate” and the famous motor followed.
For this reason I suspect to make the machine in the manor Wesley has constructed it would be akin to trying to thread a needle and make a tapestry with a blind fold on.
However it’s a simple concept which will clearly unfold after all there really isn’t very much room for poor Wesley to hide anything is there? although he tried very hard,Bless him.
There’s only two main moving parts after all. In one of the write ups the “Neutral bar”. Is described as being covered in thin copper plate in order to hide the nature of his invention. I bet Wesley didn’t feel like hugging that reporter much at the time! It captured and riveted my attention immediately.
Anyone old broke and decrepit like me remember the song Green door? Well I couldn’t help but wonder what’s hiding behind the copper door? Of course you have to remember that Wesley’s machine ran in opposition North Pole facing North Pole and South Pole facing South Pole. I never intended these ropey pictures of 10 years ago for public consumption but here I am mucking about with a couple of magnets at the time In order to prove a point to myself. In this first picture the bottom magnet is wedged into the tube, the top magnet is floating and held apart by the repulsion.
I promise you these are the same two magnets
There is a round piece of steel between both North faces (It’s actually a penny) and I am gradually sanding it down until there is no magnetic effect, If the pennies to thick the magnets are attracted to it. If the steel is to thin the magnets obviously repel each other through the steel itself. Neutral is what we want just as Wesley did all those years ago. I’m just going at it a different way.
However I also wanted some clearance hence I have some card Inserted. If you stop right now and think of what you have just seen the contents of the copper door will become reasonably apparent, at least in one plane,
You can I’m sure start to visualize how Wesley effectively “turned off” his magnet at the critical time. Alas practically It not quite that simple and there’s a bit of head scratching to do yet! You didn’t really think that something that remained hidden for 130 years or more would give up its secrets that easily did you?
We are expecting these two magnets in opposition to drop away from each other in a reasonably linear fashion them won’t! TRY THIS... Take your two magnets hang one from a string pendulum fashion, Place another underneath with its pole in opposition, what must happen? To satisfy most in a pub argument you could put this situation forward as perpetual motion, (ish) Still It is the natural pattern that is produced by the swing that must go on infinitum we must interest ourselves in. for It is the counter to this natural Chaos and how well we can apply it that determines how effective our machine will be! And so in practice you will find it almost as difficult to separate your two magnets side ways as with a straight pull. A Bloch wall by any other name…. And so Wesley’s Neutral bar would have been made mostly of copper it would have had steel inserts not only of the right thickness (because that’s only one plane) but also shaped.
He was considerably aided by the fact that he was using a horse shoe magnets not only because he obviously had twice the magnetic force available at the coal face (which is why they were originally developed) but also and far more importantly the chaotic nature of magnetic force in the axial plane is perfectly counter balanced.
After all we well know from Ed Leedskalnin that “magnets” are absolutely nothing to do with the magnet itself which is really only a conduit. (Glad I’m writing in this forum that last sentence would probably get me certified else where) And so we know “Magnets” flow is identical at both ends and of course can counter balance each other perfectly. At the time Wesley’s machine was described a “small power” perhaps suitable for driving hair clippers, with the rare earth magnets we have available now. I suspect a modern re-incarnation of this machine could blow your socks off!
I did quite a bit more work on this machine before I was forced to sell my lathe (cruel cruel world) and of course In this day and age you would never construct as Wesley did 130years ago. anyway I seem to be rambling and so I’ll post and see what Interest (if any)
.
The machine I refer to is Gary’s Magnetic motor Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor It is the first simple motor the one that is purely magnetic and mechanical I refer to. After all there really isn’t too much to focus on and with the combined efforts and thoughts of this forum this could be easily be the one to topple.Oh by the way please try and attempt the little practical bits It will help me and Gary to explain and really only needs a couple of magnets and perhaps a coin .We have a lot more useful materials available to us today than Wesley would have had in the 1870s. Most notably plastic and SS, And as for the rare earth magnets we have available Wesley could only have dreamt about them and drooled. Like Tesla he would have had to do it with wood and brass, soft Iron and a phenomenal amount of patience,
Patience that we can only wonder about in our fast paced modern world. We are the ones who have no time to stand and stare! (Never mind think)Intentionally I am not going to restudy the text or try to find the original articles I was reading 10 years ago a/They are there not there anymore b/ I may lose the plot
Initially I thought well how hard can this be? Two horse shoe magnets and a hinge. Very difficult I promise you, just take a piece of shim (or your coin) and try to stand it up between any two magnets you may have laying about, this is effectively what Wesley calls “The neutral zone” It can be done but you must admit Its very difficult. Wesley had to accomplish this remarkable effect when the magnet and the shim are both moving and with perfect timing whilst at the same time devising a cloak to hide his method in order to protect his invention. Well done Wesley It’s worked for 130 odd years but I trust you’ll forgive if I try to uncover your secret now!
Both Wesley and Tesla had this in common … They were very ill at one time. From Tesla’s autobiography http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/my_inventions.pdf you will find that his sensory perception was so advanced after the illness it tortured him. He could hear a watch ticking three rooms away, could hear a fire miles away, could not walk under bridges because of the pressure I concluded that perhaps Wesley was likewise affected, although I haven’t checked the dates to see if the time this virus was floating about would concur with both of them. Neither do I know how quickly it would transfer from Europe to the USA (or visa versa)
With This Phenomenal perception it was not a quantum leap for me to envisage both men being able to see or sense “magnetic waves” just as some can detect Dave lampbright’s waves In his gravity thread and some can't.
After all Howard Johnson had the benefit of a machine to see magnetic waves (after a fashion) very soon after that came the “magnetic gate” and the famous motor followed.
For this reason I suspect to make the machine in the manor Wesley has constructed it would be akin to trying to thread a needle and make a tapestry with a blind fold on.
However it’s a simple concept which will clearly unfold after all there really isn’t very much room for poor Wesley to hide anything is there? although he tried very hard,Bless him.
There’s only two main moving parts after all. In one of the write ups the “Neutral bar”. Is described as being covered in thin copper plate in order to hide the nature of his invention. I bet Wesley didn’t feel like hugging that reporter much at the time! It captured and riveted my attention immediately.
Anyone old broke and decrepit like me remember the song Green door? Well I couldn’t help but wonder what’s hiding behind the copper door? Of course you have to remember that Wesley’s machine ran in opposition North Pole facing North Pole and South Pole facing South Pole. I never intended these ropey pictures of 10 years ago for public consumption but here I am mucking about with a couple of magnets at the time In order to prove a point to myself. In this first picture the bottom magnet is wedged into the tube, the top magnet is floating and held apart by the repulsion.
I promise you these are the same two magnets
There is a round piece of steel between both North faces (It’s actually a penny) and I am gradually sanding it down until there is no magnetic effect, If the pennies to thick the magnets are attracted to it. If the steel is to thin the magnets obviously repel each other through the steel itself. Neutral is what we want just as Wesley did all those years ago. I’m just going at it a different way.
However I also wanted some clearance hence I have some card Inserted. If you stop right now and think of what you have just seen the contents of the copper door will become reasonably apparent, at least in one plane,
You can I’m sure start to visualize how Wesley effectively “turned off” his magnet at the critical time. Alas practically It not quite that simple and there’s a bit of head scratching to do yet! You didn’t really think that something that remained hidden for 130 years or more would give up its secrets that easily did you?
We are expecting these two magnets in opposition to drop away from each other in a reasonably linear fashion them won’t! TRY THIS... Take your two magnets hang one from a string pendulum fashion, Place another underneath with its pole in opposition, what must happen? To satisfy most in a pub argument you could put this situation forward as perpetual motion, (ish) Still It is the natural pattern that is produced by the swing that must go on infinitum we must interest ourselves in. for It is the counter to this natural Chaos and how well we can apply it that determines how effective our machine will be! And so in practice you will find it almost as difficult to separate your two magnets side ways as with a straight pull. A Bloch wall by any other name…. And so Wesley’s Neutral bar would have been made mostly of copper it would have had steel inserts not only of the right thickness (because that’s only one plane) but also shaped.
He was considerably aided by the fact that he was using a horse shoe magnets not only because he obviously had twice the magnetic force available at the coal face (which is why they were originally developed) but also and far more importantly the chaotic nature of magnetic force in the axial plane is perfectly counter balanced.
After all we well know from Ed Leedskalnin that “magnets” are absolutely nothing to do with the magnet itself which is really only a conduit. (Glad I’m writing in this forum that last sentence would probably get me certified else where) And so we know “Magnets” flow is identical at both ends and of course can counter balance each other perfectly. At the time Wesley’s machine was described a “small power” perhaps suitable for driving hair clippers, with the rare earth magnets we have available now. I suspect a modern re-incarnation of this machine could blow your socks off!
I did quite a bit more work on this machine before I was forced to sell my lathe (cruel cruel world) and of course In this day and age you would never construct as Wesley did 130years ago. anyway I seem to be rambling and so I’ll post and see what Interest (if any)
.
you can't really there is only one subject All in all there needs to be a huge change, and IMHO energy is just a tiny bit of it.
I'm hoping not to distract here but I came across this video showing a detailed step by step build of what appears to me as a Wesley Gary type motor working. 
Perhaps someone here could translate or at-least gain some knowledge or inspiration from it.
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