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  • #76
    Originally posted by dragon View Post
    I've played with the A field somewhat in several experiments and it's potential is pretty amazing. Here is a good site that explains it a little more... SCIENCE HOBBYIST: Right Angle Circuitry .

    I've noticed the amperage in a connecting heavy copper link through the "hole" of a toroid is quite high and that it seems to have a polarity, at least measuring it with conventional meters. Quite interesting indeed !
    Thanks for the link Dragon, I have looked over this before. To anyone reading through it, there is only one correction, or addition I would like to make to it, in step 8 he says:
    "FIG. 8 What if we don't use wire? If we simply place the second iron core near the first, then the lines of A-field flux will pass through both and link them together. The result? Nothing! No magnetic field appears in the second core, and the extra secondary does not produce any output voltage as it did in figure seven. WHY?!!! I don't know. I haven't thought deeply enough about this yet..."
    The reason for this is...the wires are removed which link the two cores. In their place there is still a conductive path, though it is made of "air". The resistance of the air is far far greater than that of the wire, and so a minuscule current will flow, hardly noticeable, and not enough to cause a reading on the second core. This is why.

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    • #77
      He also doesn't mention that the second link would be 180* out of phase with the first which is also interesting. Possibly an interesting way to create a delay structure.

      You can also put a load in the central link but this has to be matched quite well to work. In order get the process started you need to have a shorting coil on the secondary toroid, once the B field is activated by shorting - it will transfer energy between the two thus allowing a load to operate on the central link. The shorting coil doesn't need to be shorted once it's started ( unless the central link load is to high ).

      On a couple of my experiments with this - the central link actually became quite hot as it carries a considerable amount of current, the size of wire used needs to be adjusted to the load accordingly.

      Fun stuff indeed !
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      Last edited by dragon; 01-19-2012, 03:16 AM.

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      • #78
        dragon,
        thanks for that link, i have never seen it before. I have also done similiar experiments making coils out of insulated iron wire but didnt know what to look for out of them. Electro-electret..... interesting

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        • #79
          This right angle circuitry and its principles are the very foundation and building blocks of "the inverse inverse transformer" concept. I am quite sure that the inverse of this demonstration in the electrical sense yields a no load generator when most heavily loaded, depending on capacitive time constants. Those familiar with the concept of a generator decreasing its prime load while it is loaded more and more heavily will have a huge light-bulb go off in their heads.



          In reference to how this can be made into anti gravity let me point to this awesome thread...created by me...( not to be vainglorious....sweet word uh?).



          There are some very good arguments on this thread, but I still stand behind what I wrote there. I plan on posting more in this thread soon to continue my stream of consciousness on the subject.

          In fact anybody who has followed my threads will note that they all connect. They all are based on the same concepts.

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          • #80
            Wow! I didnt quit grasp it when you posted that thread, now the light bulbs are indeed going off! I like this concept of doing things in reverse of how things are normally done, it sheds a whole new light on things. thanks

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            • #81
              "BesserNet Reflectometer"


              Very cool Armagdn03.
              "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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              • #82
                Electrical equivilent of the Calorimeter experiment

                Here is an interesting concept to consider. Think about building the electrical equivalent of the following concept. I am currently at an Amana Engineering facility, refrigeration is the name of the game here.

                Consider a calorimeter. Inside the calorimeter is a fridge. You use X joules of energy inside the fridge, to move heat from its interior to its exterior into the measurable environment of the calorimeter. The X joules of energy you used to cause the heat cycle, will be apparent, but we also have the added heat that once resided on the interior of the fridge. Already we have more energy than we have inserted released into the interior of the calorimeter.

                If you take the energy the initial energy (X) + Heat from condenser = total energy from perspective of transfer of energy from calorimeter to outside environment. Within the calorimeter you have the the Positive (+) heat energy given off outside the fridge, balancing with the Negative (-) cold within the fridge adding up to zero. If you let the inner cold, be nullified by the outer heat, the calorimeter will only show the energy given to separate the heat and cold initially. (internal nullification of an internal potential difference is how our standard circuitry works)

                But if our frame of reference includes the outside environment, then you see the possibility. The heat from the heat cycle, plus the heat moved from interior of fridge to exterior, can be added, and used to exchange energy with the outside environment. Once the calorimeter has balanced with the environment to reach equilibrium, the inside of the fridge still has yet to exchange its potential difference with the environment and is still "cold". The COP of the system is 3, which is well known of heat pumps.

                Frame of reference makes a huge difference in how you calculate your total energy.

                The initial point of this thread was to show a possibility of doing this electrically.

                Coefficient of performance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                (good examples, derivation etc. considering heat pumps)

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                • #83
                  "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                  • #84
                    Hi,
                    Maybe it is not related to this thread, but I found this beautiful animation about travelling wave.
                    Traveling Wave Equals Sum of Stationary Modes - YouTube

                    Regards,
                    pix

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by pix View Post
                      Hi,
                      Maybe it is not related to this thread, but I found this beautiful animation about travelling wave.
                      Traveling Wave Equals Sum of Stationary Modes - YouTube

                      Regards,
                      pix
                      Wow, that is really really awesome. Thank you very much for posting that. I am actually building something very very similar to what has been discussed here.

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                      • #86


                        The green channel is the trigger and the yellow is the BEMF via a parametric oscillator "STEAP". The BEMF comes from two transformers with a DC motor inbetween them, the secoundary of the transformers is sent back one to the battery and the other to part of the circuit input. Remember the motor is DC, in the off cycle of the trigger pulse the BEMF is filling in the off cycle creating a phantom DC current, 90 degree phase shift. This circuit is running at the moment at a cop of 1, more work to be done on this even though I can run a 240v led bulb which normally would draw 125ma and the motor 250ma with a current draw on the battery of only 55ma @ 12v.

                        The motor is a capstan drive motor for a jvc video, I do not have the spec for this! perhaps someone can fill me in on this!!!

                        I may upload a vodeo of this.


                        Mike
                        Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley; 01-06-2014, 11:35 AM.

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