Kapagen Theories, Replications, Winding Diagrams, Circuits & Schematics. KAPAGEN ONLY

[NickZ]

TomB's videos have been removed. Is there any other source of "evidence" to a working unit?
NickZ

[Rolla]

TomB's videos have been removed. Is there any other source of "evidence" to a working unit?
NickZ

Please download the video someone TomB, who it is. His video has been removed!

[Dave45]

I will just mention a few things in here which address a validity, organization, and general advice concerning the kapagen device. General: one of the main reasons you cannot find alot of people, amongst the long list of people who have built one of these, is due to the fact they wish to build the device, perhaps you could say "as is", and should be building a much small scaled down version which would be much easier to test and evaluate, as well as much cheaper. The second general reason is because people too often like to read schematics of details and pick and choose what they think makes the most sense, and what does not, and this error prevents them from every really building a working prototype, or simply claiming it does not work.

Validation and location of the parts you have missed, as referred to above: the kapagen device is not complicated at all, and relies completely on known and understood physics. If any of you have mentioned this device to someone with a Ph.D. perhaps at a school you have found that they claim it violates laws and therefore is wrong, but they are simply choosing not to acknowledge anything new, as they have no answers as to why it works. This is how it works: the schematic indicates it must have an input of energy to get it started, and this runs through a run of the mill transformer/diode/capacitor/sparkgap setup, and then into the only part of the device which is somewhat original the custom coil. I am not going to go any further because this is the single location of all failures. People read things about Tesla's ground current and think well I stick one metal rod here and one here and why am I not getting what was promised, and the answer is because you must read into the design. Similarly, people put everything together and put two poles in ground and turn it on and get ~96% return if they are diligent in design, however most get less. Well it should occur to the builder (I forgot the water bank which was buried in the ground). Getting a current to flow in the soil from one point to another still requires a potential difference people, and the water (excellent e- transfer medium) combined with the metal radiator (excellent e- transfer medium) will be able to get the available e-'s out of the soil.

This step is the only reason the actual kapagen device works, and is nearly always flawed or left out entirely. The common misconception, even on the jlnaudin site, is that the kapagen is designed to receive a continual input, and this is wrong. The device is designed to be started, with some load, and once running the input source is removed, and the ever important ground connections are put into action. It is designed in such a way that the potential difference will vary continuously, and it is in this difference the device will attempt t maintain the flow of current through the coil. Now an additional misconception, well how would my load get supplied without input energy won't it drop once I unplug the input? No, the coil was designed and is used with the understanding that it will try to maintain its equilibrium. This requires it pull from the ground more or less depending on the load, and the load only pulls from the magnetic field inside the coil. By pulling from the magnetic field the field will be disrupted and the coil will seek to reestablish equilibrium, and begin to pull from the only input remaining the two ground connections. If you have just to metal poles in ground at this point the potential difference will not allow for expansion and contraction of the variable need for e-'s and the magnetic field will fail.

when you look at it this way you might say why have I not thought of this complexity sooner, and the answer is it is natural to try and reduce complexity, and if done enough it can be subconscious. I have only seen one video to date where the device was connected correctly and worked as described above. For anyone building this device I highly recommend following the original kapagen schematic and not jlnaudin as it is wrong, and only try for an output which standard non-specialized meter equipment can handle to measure.

For those of you still reading you should be looking into device combinations, as each device has a weak spot, due to the fact the researcher was devoted to proving their idea correct, and failing to notice that they could have accomplished some components operations in an easier manner. I am currently working on a few hybrids and will be posting things to the internet for confirmation of what has been discussed here.

Cool keep us up to date
Thanks
dave

[Berg]

Russian Replication

It looks like the Russian have replicated this device.

Congrats, Russians.


Notice where they obtained the schematic?

SCHEMATIC



REPLICATION

[Berg]

TomB's videos have been removed. Is there any other source of "evidence" to a working unit?
NickZ

Yep, the Russian replicated it.

See previous post.

[GSM]

Hi to All here.

Today is the first time I have opened this thread.
It states KAPAGEN ONLY.
Yet this is NOT Kapagen only technology, and to think it so will merely close minds as to the reality of what *ALL* other free energy devices like Kapanadze, Mace-Meyer, Hendershot and the earliest I know of - Hubbard have been doing.

Something I must agree with - is the Tesla like 'spark techniques', as so endlessly tried with Don Smith circuitries, are not essential to the running of these devices, but a core is, even if that core is coincidentally a winding or some apparently essential longitudinal conductor !!!

Now before I go any further I wish to state that I am not a 'scientist', though I have managed to gain a reasonable understanding of the fundamental principles which the 'qualified experts' so cleverly package such that we might never come to learn of or accept as actually being possible, for indeed the "experts" write texts and educationally examine us to check that we follow and repeat their dogmas, so that we might never comprehend what is really going on with ALL of these generators. In other words, they are willfully concealing the Truth !

Dave, you for one are making so much effort here in trying to share an understanding, and so I am thankful that my first visit here coincidentally sees me opening up the highlighted 'explanation' you found, for without that I would have just gone away again.

If I may quote from your highlight -
Quote -
Now an additional misconception, well how would my load get supplied without input energy won't it drop once I unplug the input?
No, the coil was designed and is used with the understanding that it will try to maintain its equilibrium.
This requires it pull from the ground more or less depending on the load, and the load only pulls from the magnetic field inside the coil.
By pulling from the magnetic field the field will be disrupted and the coil will seek to reestablish equilibrium, and begin to pull from the only input remaining the two ground connections.
If you have just to metal poles in ground at this point the potential difference will not allow for expansion and contraction of the variable need for e-'s and the magnetic field will fail.
end of Quote.

We have clear statement that the electrical output has nothing to do with input energy drive,
however,
there is also an attempt to make us believe that the *ground* supplies the electric current *input* after the primary supply has been disconnected.

Sorry, but NO ! Not possible. Our Earth does not make electrical energy, though it will conduct with complex series impedance.

The ground does not/ cannot supply electric current as an input to the Kapagen coil assembly, and thus this explanation is clearly, if unintentionally, incorrect.

It is only when we look at these *composite* coil assemblies as alternating or pulsed NMR inducing resonators, plus NMR transducers, that what is occuring within all of these devices can be understood !

See page 10 here - may be slow download -

http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2012-0709-200441/lucassen.pdf

Look at the windings in the videos - reversed fields between ends generating same polarity magnetic field impingement upon molecular domains within some central region of the core.

Then look at the core, it simultaneously conducts a transformed shorted turn current, or longitudinal current.

The opposing winding fields and interacting core current induce electron *orbit* spins within the core molecular domains, thereby not only exciting the electrons, but disrupting their fundamental orbital relationship with the elemental nucleus; ie.- abnormally dissociating electron motion about two axes, through generating force against along the third axis within a three dimensional molecular substance).

There cannot be change to, or energetic loss of, the electrons of any atom within a body which is sharing electron bonds, without there being equal but opposite reaction upon and within associated nucleii = EM induced artificial radioactive decay + transducible energy release.

This decay causes both voltage charge to the core (core earthed on the Kapagen thus creating fractionally time delayed transducible output through cable-Earth reflection) plus radioactive emanations which additionally become transduced by surrounding metal overwindings, and induce displaced electron motion with transducible energy output.
In the Hendershot generator the time delay comes from emanations being transduced by a core-cap foil overwind, this reactively (delay) parallel energising another separate coil winding.

The most important aspect with all of these devices relates to timing, for the induction of emanation and its subsequent transduction arise sequentially, and thus must not be coincidentally damped by failure to ensure non-simultaneous circuit operations before both effects can manifest.

Also do be aware that the 'experts' provide us with fantastic high NMR frequency reference listings, applicable to a high strength polarising magnetic field quite unlike that on the Earthly environment we occupy - a 'scientific' fantasy, which is deliberately neither relevent to everday circuitry at low magnetic (earth) field strengths, nor usable by the masses !!!
Within our Earthly environment NMR excitations commonly arise at hundreds and kilohertz frequencies, and thus I wonder if Fleischman and Pons, and Stan Meyer energised their water based technologies at clearly audible frequencies too ?
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For anyone who would care to check, Iron has one of the lowest (most easily excitable) NMR frequencies of any substance commonly available !

Heck look at the NMR T1/ T2 time periods used with MRI equipment; the scans might run at MHz, but the molecular re-alignments take hundreds of microseconds unless moving, as in blood, and hence the scan field repetition pulses are so slow we can count them !

Two separate earthing wires will present necessary time delay for many Kapanadze version generators, but so too would a twin conductor delay line between two cross interconnected coils with adjustable mutual coupling, as Hendershot did with his NMR corecap assemblies and mechanically resonant (pulse time delaying) 'buzzer' assemblies !

Thus the Kapagen has been cleverly fashioned such that it is the transduced loading of emenating core energy which closed loop (though with reactive delay) induceses NMR excitation, thus increased loading automatically increases excitation of electrical output.

Wonderful - both imaginatively and functionally - and five million stars would still not be enough for me to give this design.

Could the long tubes with outer rings near one end and controlled by priests in Ancient Egyptan paintings be Kapagens ?

Cheers ............ Graham.

[Guruji]

Kapagen

I've build this and testing it. The thing it has to be filled with ferrite. I used small toroids in pipe but it's not giving me alot output.
About that winding Berg that is not CCW it's CW no?
Ok guys thanks for now.

[GSM]

http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/111526/

[Dave45]

It would seem in a solenoid configuration that current would travel through the core to some extent but a toroid should exclude the electric field completely.

[Guruji]

It would seem in a solenoid configuration that current would travel through the core to some extent but a toroid should exclude the electric field completely.

GSM and Dave Interesting info. Is this true that this can emit radioactive rays?!!!!
Thanks

[GSM]

GSM and Dave Interesting info. Is this true that this can emit radioactive rays?!!!!
Thanks

Possible yes - and Gamma too.
Could induce radiation sickness or premature aging.
Radiation detector essential, to check that equipment housing is an effective sheild.
(Just broke mine so must get another.)

[Berg]

Electrostatic Compression Waves and the KAPAGEN

Something I must agree with - is the Tesla like 'spark techniques', as so endlessly tried with Don Smith circuitries, are not essential to the running of these devices, but a core is, even if that core is coincidentally a winding or some apparently essential longitudinal conductor !!!

Hi G,

Personally, I believe the spark gap is essential because without it you can't create the electrostatic compression waves, per Eric Dollard.

Check out what the Russian experimenter is doing:

безтопливный генератор Романова.mp4 - YouTube

[I]
Introduction to
DIELECTRICITY AND CAPACITANCE
by Eric Dollard

CAPACITANCE
The phenomena of capacitance is a type of electrical energy storage in the form of a field in an enclosed space. This space is typically bounded by two parallel metallic plates or two metallic foils on an intervening insulator or dielectric. A nearly infinite variety of more complex structures can exhibit capacity, as long as a difference in electric potential exists between various areas of the structure. The oscillating coil represents one possibility as to a capacitor of more complex form, and will be presented here.

CAPACITANCE INADEQUATELY EXPLAINED
The perception of capacitance as used today is wholly inadequate for the proper understanding of this effect. Steinmetz mentions this in his introductory book Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses. To quote, "Unfortunately, to large extent in dealing with dielectric fields the prehistoric conception of the electrostatic charge (electron) on the conductor still exists, and by its use destroys the analogy between the two components of the electric field, the magnetic and the dielectric, and makes the consideration of dielectric fields unnecessarily complicated."

LINES OF FORCE AS REPRESENTATION OF DIELECTRICITY
Steinmetz continues, "There is obviously no more sense in thinking of the capacity current as current which charges the conductor with a quantity of electricity, than there is of speaking of the inductance voltage as charging the conductor with a quantity of magnetism. But the latter conception, together with the notion of a quantity of magnetism, etc., has vanished since Faraday's representation of the magnetic field by lines of force."

THE LAWS OF LINES OF FORCE
All the lines of magnetic force are closed upon themselves, all dielectric lines of force terminate on conductors, but may form closed loops in electromagnetic radiation. These represent the basic laws of lines of force. It can be seen from these laws that any line of force cannot just end in space.

FARADAY & LINES OF FORCE THEORY
Farady felt strongly that action at a distance is not possible thru empty space, or in other words, "matter cannot act where it is not." He considered space pervaded with lines of force. Almost everyone is familiar with the patterns formed by iron filings around a magnet. These filings act as numerous tiny compasses and orientate themselves along the lines of force existing around the poles of the magnet. Experiment has indicated that a magnetic field does possess a fibrous construct. By passing a coil of wire thru a strong magnetic field and listening to the coil output in headphones, the experimenter will notice a scraping noise. J. J. Thompson performed further experiments involving the ionization of gases that indicate the field is not continuous but fibrous (electricity and matter, 1906).

PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF LINES OF FORCE
Consider the space between poles of a magnet or capacitor as full of lines of electric force. See Fig.1. These lines of force act as a quantity of stretched and mutually repellent springs. Anyone who has pushed together the like poles of two magnets has felt this springy mass. Observe Fig.2. Notice the lines of force are more dense along AB in between poles, and that more lines on A are facing B than are projecting outwards to infinity. Consider the effect of the lines of force on A. These lines are in a state of tension and pull on A. Because more re pulling on A towards B than those pulling on A away from B, we have the phenomena of physical attraction. Now observe Fig. 3. Notice now that the poles are like rather than unlike, more or all lines pull A away from B; the phenomena of physical repulsion.

MASS ASSOCIATED WITH LINES OF FORCE IN MOTION
The line of force can be more clearly understood by representing it as a tube of force or a long thin cylinder. Maxwell presented the idea the tension of a tube of force is representative of electric force (volts/inch), and in addition to this tension, there is a medium through which these tubes pass. There exists a hydrostatic pressure against this media or ether. The value of this pressure is one half the product of dielectric and magnetic density. Then there is a pressure at right angles to an electric tube of force. If through the growth of a field the tubes of force spread sideways or in width, the broadside drag through the medium represents the magnetic reaction to growth in intensity of an electric current. However, if a tube of force is caused to move endwise, it will glide through the medium with little or no drag as little surface is offered. This possibly explains why no magnetic field is associated with certain experiments performed by Tesla involving the movement of energy with no accompanying magnetic field.

INDUCTANCE AS AN ANALOGY TO CAPACITY
Much of the mystery surrounding the workings of capacity can be cleared by close examination of inductance and how it can give rise to dielectric phenomena. Inductance represents energy storage in space as a magnetic field. The lines of force orientate themselves in close loops surrounding the axis of current flow that has given rise to them. The large the space between this current and its images or reflections, the more energy that can be stored in the resulting field.

MECHANISM OF STORING ENERGY MAGNETICALLY
The process of pushing these lines or loops outward, causing them to stretch, represents storing energy as in rubber band. A given current strength will hold a loop of force at a given distance from conductor passing current hence no energy movement. If the flow of current increases, energy is absorbed by the field as the loops are then pushed outward at a corresponding velocity. Because energy is in motion an E.M.F. must accompany the current flow in order for it to represent power. The magnitude of this EMF exactly corresponds to the velocity of the field. Then if the current ceases changing in magnitude thereby becoming constant, no EMF accompanies it, as no power is being absorbed. However, if the current decreases and represents then a negative velocity of field as the loops contract. Because the EMF corresponds exactly to velocity it reverses polarity and thereby reverses power so it now moves out of the field and into the current. Since no power is required to maintain a field, only current, the static or stationary field, represents stored energy.

THE LIMITS OF ZERO AND INFINITY
Many interesting features of inductance manifest themselves in the two limiting cases of trapping the energy or releasing it instantly. Since the power supply driving the current has resistance, when it is switched off the inductance drains its energy into this resistance that concerts it into the form of heat. We will assume a perfect inductor that has no self resistance. If we remove the current supply by shorting the terminals of the inductor we have isolated it without interrupting any current. Since the collapse of field produces EMF this EMF will tend to manifest. However, a short circuit will not allow an EMF to develop across it as it is zero resistance by definition. No EMF can combine with current to form power, therefore, the energy will remain in the field. Any attempt to collapse forces increased currents which pushes it right back out This is one form of storage of energy.

INSTANT ENERGY RELEASE AS INFINITY
Very interesting (and dangerous) phenomena manifest themselves when the current path is interrupted, thereby causing infinite resistance to appear. In this case resistance is best represented by its inverse, conductance. The conductance is then zero. Because the current vanished instantly the field collapses at a velocity approaching that of light. As EMF is directly related to velocity of flux, i tends towards infinity. Very powerful effects are produced because the field is attempting to maintain current by producing whatever EMF required. If a considerable amount of energy exists, say several kilowatt hours* (250 KWH for lightning stroke), the ensuing discharge can produce most profound effects and can completely destroy inadequately protected apparatus.* The energy utilized by an average household in the course of one day.

ANOTHER FORM OF ENERGY APPEARS
Through the rapid discharge of inductance a new force field appears that reduces the rate of inductive EMF formation. This field is also represented by lines of force but these are of a different nature than those of magnetism. These lines of force are not a manifestation of current flow but of an electric compression or tension. This tension is termed voltage or potential difference.

DIELECTRIC ENERGY STORAGE SPATIALLY DIFFERENT THAN MAGNETIC ENERGY STORAGE
Unlike magnetism the energy is forced or compressed inwards rather than outwards. Dielectric lines of force push inward into internal space and along axis, rather than pushed outward broadside to axis as in the magnetic field. Because the lines are mutually repellent certain amounts of broadside or transverse motion can be expected but the phenomena is basically longitudinal. This gives rise to an interesting paradox that will be noticed with capacity. This is that the smaller the space bounded by the conducting structure the more energy that can be stored. This is the exact opposite of magnetism. With magnetism, the units volumes of energy can be though of as working in parallel but the unit volumes of energy in association with dielectricity can be thought of as working in series.

Source: Eric Dollard and Tesla

Cheers

[GSM]

Hi G,

Personally, I believe the spark gap is essential because without it you can't create the electrostatic compression waves, per Eric Dollard.

Check out what the Russian experimenter is doing:





Source: Eric Dollard and Tesla

Cheers

A spark gap merely covers all frequencies in order to ensure operation.
Surely the final step should be via a scope observation of signal generator tuned inducement, in order that other nearby electronics are not electromagnetically interfered with ?

Hubbard, Hendershot, Meyer-Mace used tuned circuits, not spark transients.

[maxpesh]

Has anyone tried to use HPS bulbs with these experiments ?

[Farmhand]

A spark gap merely covers all frequencies in order to ensure operation.

Hi GSM, I've seen that written before about spark gaps. How exactly does a
spark gap cover all frequencies ?

Do you mean a disruptive discharge will ping a coil to ring down at it's
resonant frequency ? Because if that's what you mean any abrupt discharge
will do the same eg. a capacitive discharge using a mosfet switch. In my
experience if the coil/transformer is tuned, depending on the circuit the spark
gap will automatically fire only in tune. But as far as the concept of a spark
gap covering all frequencies goes, I don't get it. Can you explain ?

I can envision a circuit where as the coil rings out the spark gap could only
fire again when the potential difference across the gap allows it to happen.

Cheers