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  • patmac
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    @seth

    Yes, I've many time reading & working and searching FE.

    @tantric & everybody

    The first diagram republished by calvs speak by himself is OPEN LOOP but
    this schematic is more like Don Smith circuit correct me if I wrong.

    The kapagen is close loop because the Ground Rod's is closing the loop. Groundings can to help extract energy (using the earth like a battery in series?) additional but Hey!; look the output on Naudin's Kapagen is very very low impedance, if the impedance implemented here is lower than impedance between the Grounds then the energy is burned there.

    Possible Solution: Using a Grounding bigger?. Or reducing the distance between grounds?

    If we take two resistors the first 10 ohm and the second 1 ohm in series connected on the battery, We can see how 10 ohm resistor burn energy in heat form. Now we change 1 ohm resistor by 100 ohm resistor then 100 ohm resistor burn energy in heat form but 10 ohm resistor is colder.

    If we analyze more deeper last test of Naudins we can see is illogical reach 96% only the cap implemented on ordinary circuit can waste the 80%. But look Naundins has recovered 96% this is only explained by Fundaun, we tested very circuits based on Fundaun theory, I've perfectly recovered 90% from one cap. Fundaun explains that capacitor charged directly by 12 volts battery for example the differential of potential between the battery and capacitor is burned so we can avoid this waste by charge the capacitor only with a little volts over the cap (charging it with oscillators too is possible)

    More about this: http://puhep1.princeton.edu/~mcdonal...60_1047_92.pdf

    Conventional theory suggest that capacitors burn energy because needs current to be charged. Fundaun explains that is possible avoid the entropy when is charged.

    Bearden talk about capacitors need current because plates makes mechanical forces between them so needs Joules to makes this movement. But Bearden explains how capacitors with parallel plates very solid plates can be charged without current. This is deeply explained on Energy from the Vaccum Pt 5 DVD. HV can help to use less current to charge the cap. And implementing Spark Gaps is useful to produces negative current thanks to low width pulses like explains Bearden & Peter Lindemann.


    Conclusion: This part in the circuit is useful to reach OU.

    Explaining the schematic:

    Going to back again schematic publish by calvs we can see the parallel plates capacitors apparently like a explanation added to the output below the main schematic. And by using only a Ground then this is more like a TEP (Time Energy Pump) in the output. (Parametric...)

    The input is like a conventional Bedini Solid state for example or conventional oscillator used for voltage elevator (self oscillator), the coil can be a TV CRT Flyback coil, coil car too but modern solid coil car because oil filled are very high impedance then only works in lower frequency. C1 speaks by himself L1 is undoubtedly low impedance then C1 stabilize the current on each pulse. C2 can control the Pulse Width some very important this save energy, I've tested this method on oscillators increasing the voltage works more with volts than current. R1 controls the frequency maybe using a Potentiometer here we can change the freq is useful because this can control the frequency on the output too.

    RS: I think is for security this guarantee the capacitor is discharged some time after disconnect the circuit. Good thing. (Or internal impendance?)

    C3: 750 Volts X 0.25 uf, Hmm this max voltage is telling me that Spark gap is only a little millimeters like Naudins test, 1000 volts = 10 mm. With spark gap more separated we can get lower frequency too, but higher voltage on each discharge but this cap rated on 750 speak by himself too, SG is only the needed to make pulsations the lower SG is better I think.

    Now look how the cap is discharged in total open loop, and the second transformer T2 meanwhile is a LC resonator, interesting more caps then can get lower frequency?. T2 is a AC oscillator.

    When LC circuit reach voltage necessary then discharge in SG2. Only nanoseconds after spark is activated then is when the Ground can gives extra energy.

    But there is some important here this curious AB coil sends his own BEMF to the bulbs too. If A is 12 turns and B 220 then produces voltage on half cycle and reconvert voltage to current the BEMF. Because are two coils in the same time if each one are polarized correctly (CW or CCW) then is possible reconvert his own BEMF and use it like current?. Conventionally this coils is unnecessary because the energy is burned on the bulbs. Another theory is this AB coil is only a impedance matching like used on big audio systems.

    But looking in the second schematic hand writing version this coil is a wall transformer for self power the devices.

    Wow this is a little complex.

    The SG2 and the coil is very curious, when the energy past to the another side the SG form + polarity can be cached like - polarity on the another side of Spark Gap (negative energy?)..


    Then ground rod seems a Antenna-Ground system, I think. Yes, it's possible this can help to stabilize the spark gap at same time when the cap is charged before SG discharge ground help to the system like Tesla Energy from the air.

    If my thoughts are correct then Naudins is trying to create a coil-capacitor using a rod in the middle or like antenna to get same effect and making it simplest.


    My conclusions are:

    - This circuit vs kapagen is better because produces the HV more efficiently.

    - This circuit seems self-tuned thanks to AB coil. (recycle wastes for self power like second schematic?)

    Sorry by the length for my post. (Here is all my opinion about this circuit and Kapagen )

    Regards.
    Last edited by patmac; 11-10-2010, 01:37 AM.

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  • TanTric
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    @patmac yeap my friend, resonance is the key of the kapanadze device!!

    you are in a good way, good toughts!!


    @seth, you r such a special person my friend! please give news about the brovin, i tryed to replicate it, but soon as i connect the output of L1 to the positive the circuit stops!!

    hugs

    Originally posted by patmac View Post
    @Tantric & everybody

    Please my reply maybe is out of the thread but can original Kapadze uses resonancy on his own components to reach OU?

    Regards.
    Last edited by TanTric; 07-08-2010, 08:43 PM.

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  • calvs
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    another kapanadze diagram from internet

    see this replication diagram..
    Attached Files

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  • calvs
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    kapanadze rep diagram from the net

    See the attachments for kapanadze diagram taken from internet
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  • patmac
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    The coil on kapagen seems more like to adjust the volts on the output this adjust the impendance too. Theorically moving the 6 turns coil on the sides outputs volts can be change? a highly efficient step down transformer very superior to normal laminated iron core.

    The Kapanadze orginal definitively is a very different system.

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  • seth
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    Originally posted by TanTric View Post
    hi guys,



    with or without coil, the values are exactly the same!

    Need you say more?

    I found exactly the same.

    If the kapagen works the same without the kapagen coil, why bother building it? Just stick your transformer output into a spark gap and then through some lamps and into the ground - seems to work for everyone who has tried

    I dont want to get peoples hopes down - im an optimist, and perhaps a double grounded OU device is just waiting to happen, similar to what were playing with here. But as far as the funny 20ish/80ish/6ish coil is concerned....you can use any kind of coil.....be creative!!!! The lights will still light up!!! I guarantee it

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  • patmac
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    @Tantric & everybody

    I've bought a MOT to make a replication (I'm waiting for the mailbox service) and anothers experiments with HV and by many others reasons too:

    I've two years searching the negative effect on lead acid battery and pulsed motors only I need to test the very last experiment: Microwave swtiching.

    >2 Ghz this is impossible on HV and many amps only with semiconductors, only dischargers LC can do it.

    The very first experiment is Microwave swtiching, look Bearden in his paper "http://www.cheniere.org/misc/battery%20poppers.htm" battery poppers insist many years ago Bill Nelson a Microwave Engineer who took a look on Bedini little motor.

    After many times dialoguing with Bedini Nelson understood that is possible reach the effect with the swtiching more than the motor etc.

    Switching seems to be key but is strange meanwhile many people has replicated the Bedini system, then Bearden explains that is needed nano-seconds pulses to get work wtihout his equivalent in Amperes, Bedin systems when seems show OU (look on battery poppers, Beardens talk about big energy) is resonance the pulse coil is activated one time and resonance seems to have many replications on each real pulse like a disturbing earth quake I dont know.

    The truth is Nelson has removed his commercial kit because the energy is so high that batteries can explode (excessive charge?). This effect is seems in anothers situations a friend of mind automotive serviceman specialist on rebuild Alternators and Startup motors has told me some incredible only remember me about Lockridge devices, he told me that when was learning on his first rebuild was a old Dodge Motor Startup 70's, "I've rebuild this starter motor and was installed on the car but I've connected it with + and - wires inverted by my own error (I don't know, Is possible?)" and the motor startup work well Engine was startup well but the battery BOOOM BOOM, the case was fractured, and me What a Hell. Then the alternator was checked and ok, startup motor was ok, then hmm batt was bad or well was mounted a brand new battery engine on and new battery BOOOM". Then a more deep investigation was started and startup motor dismounted and with the Rebuild Service manual in hand the error was the polarity inverted, was strange for me (he told me) the battery with broken case was checked the volts and very hot bubling and voltage was >13 volts when I was thking this battery was discharged abruptly how was charged abruptaly then?".

    Then is possible recharge battery abruptly and can blow himself, I don't know if this Startup motor has PM or coils, but is not the point here. The point here is when the H2O reach certain excitation frequency and Amperes seems show strange effects:

    Look Microwave if you put your meal on the Microwave the food is warm in seconds, because the H2O atoms begin to resonate on >2.4 ghz and the friction in this frequency generate HEAT.

    If you put Polyethilene this ever is room temp, only water is affected by this frequency. Capacitors depending of his materials can show strange effects of recharging itself or well the HHO generators, I think hooking up this MOT and adjusting with VARIAC to reach the 2.4 GHZ OU effect of HHO gas can noticed.

    Please my reply maybe is out of the thread but can original Kapadze uses resonancy on his own components to reach OU?

    Regards.

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  • seth
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    Originally posted by TanTric View Post
    KAPAGEN INPUT and OUTPUT Power

    Upgraded power meter on the input now shows no OU... Just a 96% eff...

    feel very sad now because i have been correct all the time! it was to good to be truth, or maybe not..

    hugs
    Hey my Portuguese friend...

    why would you feel sad about being right? I listened to you, did my own tests and came to the same conclusions. JL Naudin did the same - you uploaded some extremely interesting vids which were more than informative. Everything you did was right, and in the true scientific spirit. I, for one, thank you for your tests. Dont listen to trolls on forums - life is too short. Keep up the good work mate!

    Dont let the bastards grind you down! Once i've finished translating all the info about Kachers/Brovin generators, you can be sure that you'll be the first to get the circuit diagram. Im a little busy cos of work and family, but my Russian is pretty good, so i should have a workable set up soon....

    Be Lucky!

    Dave

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  • dllabarre
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    My actual watts used are lower when measuring with analog meters compared to the Kill-A-Watt meter.

    There is something going on with the Kapagen...

    So far Kapanadez's device falls in with all the other devices where the developer won't give out details for replication and no one has totally replicated it. SR only lights 1 bulb so he is close but no cigar.

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  • TanTric
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    @hammad

    kapagen is not a OU device, it was allready prooved by many people even before the creator of this setup do the same!


    @all i will be making my last video with the KAPAGEN powered by a 300W inverter (12V to 220V limited input), to take right measuraments and powering 350W of bulbs, and also will try the 100W fan.

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  • Hammad
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    Is kapagen made buy all show OU

    Hello all.

    I am a new member, and don't know alot about kapagen, but as i have a lot of back ground knowledge in electronics/power, i understood the circuitdiagram fairly easily.

    But my question is simple:

    "HAS EVERY ONE WHO HAS MADE KAPAGEN, WAS SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO GET OU, OR KAPAGEN IS SIMPLY NOT AN OU DEVICE?"

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  • calvs
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    A Method to measure Kapagen which uses MOT

    The measurement method I used with my Kapagen was the removal of the coil assymbly or symply bypass it by connecting the load (lamps in series) from the SG (spark gap) toward the ground (through the load). Comparison with the coils and without the coils: no apparent gain or loss.

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  • patmac
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    @Tantric

    Yes, but inverter is so inefficient? I don't know the worst inverter can be 80% is not determinating the looses here. My point is the Naudins is using the highest tech to measuring the input/output that is very ok for me. But is very strange the difference between the first kapagen versions and this measuring method is very high (not 80% looses that can show your inverter) your test with the inverter can give us a more real measure. Look the v3.2 show a input of 211 watts with Energycheck 3000 and Voltcraft on the Variac output in 3.3 version is showing >700 watts is very strange. This shows a difference about 300% on the input.

    So Naudins explains that a Halogen bulb burning 150 real Watts conventional electricity is generating >12500 LUX. Then his light output was 2505 lux and the sheet shows that this bulbs uses about 70 watts.

    This is correct, in my past post I was thinking that he was showing a special calculation to convert LUX to Watts. Sorry. Then this is not OU at all. So if you can check it with you inverter without waste money could be interesting because input method with hight tech shows a big difference and Nausins seems don't clearify this point. Then this Kapagen would be a highly efficient transmission one wire technology.

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  • TanTric
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    i think i can make the test of "real" readings with a 12V battery and my 12DC-220VAC inverter powering the MOT 20Meters away from my DMM and inverter...

    then the real consumption should be the TOTAL less the power the inverter needs to work without load!

    but is it worth it? this device dont inspire me anymore, dont smell OU to me!

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  • patmac
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    I insist in DC measure

    The only way to measure correctly is putting a big battery with analog DC Amp-meter. The inductive dischargers with spark gap create errors beacause one part of the energy try to go back to the source this type of sources are designed to measure consumption output not input.

    My critics about this Naundin's test are:

    1. This gadget consumes more energy after the variac than before the VARIAC?

    ERRATA: ERROR OF MY MISUNDERSTANDING THE NAUDIN'S OUTPUT METHOD:
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    2. The output measuring method is only for light visible the usefull power without looses only is for demonstrate the total output usefull energy in light form. Lux measure the light but Naudins is not measuring the heat..

    3. Halogen lamps are not 100% efficient, the waste in heat form is TREMENDOUS.
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    Sorry @everybody please skip this comments



    4. On this forum like researchers test and experiments clearly shows that heat & light are very differents forms of radiation on different lenght waves and 100% of light is visible?. No; we can create light using the Imhotep method and coil car for example, this light don't produce heat at all. Naudins method produces light and very so much heat, this shows OU clearly.

    If somebody knows how contact directly to Naudins to measure the heat output on the bulbs would be awesome.

    Additionally:

    We can look on Newman motors this motors spin and produce mechanical energy one part of the energy is usefull for recharge batteries but other part of this energy go back to the source.

    Another way to measure consumption on Kapagen can be hooking on the cap a oscilloscope but is needed a good protection for the equipment and clips 100x is recommended then we can measure the frequency on the cap and voltage change so J=VxVx(Cx0.5) In the worst cases cap 2100VAC x 1uf

    J=2100x2100x(0.0000005)
    J=2.205 watts

    If the frequency is adjusted on 50hz :

    W=2.205 x 50
    W= 110

    This can be the real input in the worst case because the cap is not totally discharged and not totally charged, frequency can be changed using the sparkgap. it's very possible eliminate the VARIAC changing the gap larger gap = higher voltage. 10 mm - 1000 volts aprox.

    Regards.

    Carlos.
    Last edited by patmac; 07-05-2010, 07:47 PM.

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