my smith kanapadz replication

[Xenomorph]

Cool, so what are your measurements on your latest setup?
Do you indeed get multiple times more out than you put in?

[wojwrobel]

well

my hv power supply makes arroung 4kv so i hooked up 10x 400uf 400v capacitors in series 4kv+ side and pos cap and neg side groung and in 4 sec i have it charged at max and my power supply is not capable of charging so many caps in so short time so i think it came from groung, so now im building load 8 just like in previest post to step it down and mesure....

and next thing is to find what material sould i use to build good capacitors, here is good site about mesuring capicitance
HyperPhysics and whats important is the isolator you have between thats the k factor Dielectric Constants
i think i have to start to search for good quality glass for capacitors...

wojsciech

[Xenomorph]

Glass is good. I took a PVC like artificial glass.
You will have to invest a lot into the plates. Metal is expensive.
The whole thing is a trade off. If your dielectric is too thick you will have a low capacitance, if it is too thin, the Hv might break through.
Since you can´t roll the plates, you will need huge plates to reach a decent capacitance.

[wojwrobel]

hello

ok i did some calculation for setup jusl like in post #15

and capacitor 50cm x 50 cm will give us C= 0.0123956 uf = 0.0000000123956 F

and store energy of W=0.5 x C x Vsq

since system will operate at 30000 V energy stored will be 5,57802 J at 1 hz

since system will operate at 20000hz output will be 5,57802 x 20000 =111560 J/s=111560W

since in our system we form 4 capacitors it sould give 4x 111560=446240W

let say that 30% goes to loses we have 312000w =312kW

well im not quiet sure about Smiths calculation because hes work calculation looks like this

W=0.5 x C x Vsq x Hzsq

well i cant find any website to confirm that the but logic says just Hz not squere

wojsciech

[wojwrobel]

ps.
maybe he calculated this squere because 20000Hz he is a charging and discharging capacitor so every herz we have electrons going in and out !! that make sens so this way the output have to be multiplyied by 20000!!

wojsciech

[wojwrobel]

ok i have asked my freind electrician and this calculation are correct BUT!!!

as a energy generetad we have to use DISPLACMENT OF ELECTRONS OR CHARGE DISPLACEMENT !!!! caused by hv pulse in plate 1 and then multiplie by number of plates minus loses

what ever i calculated is for capacitor charging and discharging that can be use but in DIFFERENT SETUP.....

ok so now im digging how to calculate the displacment charge!!!

cheers and sorry for misinformation

wojsciech

[wojwrobel]

soory stupid idea....

wojsciech

[wojwrobel]

hello

i came to this:

ok when we put magnet to coil we swing electrons so they swing and produce electricity right? just like here


and that is what Kapanadz i think is doing :


so besicaly he have transformer 12v to 12v but with this extra kick of positive or negative potential he swing electrons even more so the output is 240v

because electron is a negatively charged particle so it will be atracted to positive potential(positive charge)

if you notice in many videos that amp in = amp out so just voltage is amplified

wojsciech

[boguslaw]

Simple OU concept device :

charge many capacitors in series then discharge them in parallel.
There is small energy gain here. Then invent a positive feedback loop : put put output into charging device to charge capacitors faster or to higher energy.
Observe how device destroys itself soon.

Anyone willing to build prototype and make a show ?

[Xenomorph]

Simple OU concept device :

charge many capacitors in series then discharge them in parallel.

It would be quite a mess of wires and a complex circuit to realize the switching arrangement, but it would probably get you a COP of marginally more than 1.
I guess what wojwrobel is after is many times that COP.

@wojwrobel:
What you are showing is very simplified, the electrons are also submitted to the forces emerging from the induction: Loading a transformer makes the secondary influence the primary.

[wojwrobel]

hello

well i dont think it need many wires , you just have to use good IC
something like in picture


"What you are showing is very simplified, the electrons are also submitted to the forces emerging from the induction: Loading a transformer makes the secondary influence the primary."

yes thats correct but since you pump dc pulses thru primery windings it dont really mater, each puls deliveres same amount of current.... no mater if there is core or no core or secondary influence...

wojsciech

[Xenomorph]

wojsciech:
Boguslaw was talking about capacitors not inductors.
And in order to first line up a number n of capacitors to be in series to a power source and then reconfigure their interconnection to be parallel via switches (MOSFETS etc.) DOES necessitate a complex routing matrix and many MOSFETs and possibly drivers.

In the diagram you posted there is no advantage to that set-up than if you would just send the pulse through one transformer only.
You parallel the signal into two branches thereby the current also splits up into the two branches. This will result in half the magnetic flux in both transformers than you would get if you had not split the signal and just sent it with one branch into a transformer.
When you combine the signal in the end it is two halves combined to one.
No gain, instead you even lost energy due to the fact that the coupling k is always lower than 1.

yes thats correct but since you pump dc pulses thru primery windings it dont really mater, each puls deliveres same amount of current.... no mater if there is core or no core or secondary influence...

Oh it does matter.
A transformer secondary coil "sees" the change in current, so pulsed DC is a change in current (direction) di/dt at the flanks and will result in oppositely oriented currents at the moment of the flanks (counter-electromotive force , Lenz Law)

[Xenomorph]

Lol i have built Tesla Switches myself, thanks for the hint though.
But that does not use n capacitors (as in more than 4, if even most guys use batteries and thats something else)
Boguslav was probably hinting to the young effect, that might get stronger with a high number of caps.
But that should be discussed not here, as this is wojwrobel´s thread.

[cosmo-lv]

ehhh... don't mess with Tesla switch - Tesla switch is nothing to doo witk Kapanadze device.

Some things:
Parametric resonanse in tesla coil, so... it is little bit confusing to explain, but see what Don Smith are done in his coil - it is wind on right way, only one thing is missing there - "Core" you need ferrite or iron core and right HV transformer and find the frequency by adjusting spark gap.

Thats for today and good luck

[Xenomorph]

Parametric resonanse in tesla coil, so

So anyone who created a simple parametric resonance in a Tesla coil should have received free energy in the kilowatt range ???