gravity waves found

[david lambright]

jet!

Cloxxki, the whole purpose for this onepiece setup is that it has no gaps and thus almost no resistance for the magnetic flux flow. Channeling info suggests that the better and bigger the contact area is, the stronger the effect will be. So this will prove if this is indeed true.

Harvey, this is some regular steel, not mild steel, it wont retain much magnetism, so it might be that precharging the V shapes using a custom PMH wont give a desired effect. So I thought that maybe adding little neo magnets between each V shape would do the same, like in the attachment. The flux will rather travel through the magnets than through the steel ark closer to the center. This way I can get the magnetic poles on the V shapes just like Ed has on his generator. Also I have seen that magnetized PMH flux also likes to travel through magnets, you can put a magnet close to a magnetized PMH and then break the lock by pulling one side of the steel bar off the U shape and sending flux through the magnet, then you can put the steel bar on its previous position and remove the magnet and the lock will still be there

hi jet...great work on your laser cut pieces....1 question..have you tried the single junction ring PMH yet?..steel rod 15mm bent into a 35cm diameter circle with a gap of 3mm at the junction, 40 to 50 turns of .025 insulated transformer wire wound 40mm from the junction...a spark from a 9 volt battery will lock the ring and close the gap..... are you planning to have a gap in your new design, if so, you should get it to lock with one coil, close to the gap....just a thought...any way sorry for my absence...have been working...and i see every body has been busy also!....thanks every one for getting this rolling!...i am home today, so i will try to go back and answer some questions.... sorry for not answering some of your questions before...i felt that they would be better answered by other replicators...that way, when we get the same results the answer will clearer.....david

[Adie123]

@Jetijs - do you have a copy of ed leedskalnin's manual of magnetic current?

if not heres a link to pdf format copy


Also just wanted to remind/mention the polarity that leedskalnin had on his flywheel. Pic below.



p.s. great work btw

regards
Adie

[Jetijs]

Cloxxki, the whole purpose for this onepiece setup is that it has no gaps and thus almost no resistance for the magnetic flux flow. Channeling info suggests that the better and bigger the contact area is, the stronger the effect will be. So this will prove if this is indeed true.

Harvey, this is some regular steel, not mild steel, it wont retain much magnetism, so it might be that precharging the V shapes using a custom PMH wont give a desired effect. So I thought that maybe adding little neo magnets between each V shape would do the same, like in the attachment. The flux will rather travel through the magnets than through the steel ark closer to the center. This way I can get the magnetic poles on the V shapes just like Ed has on his generator. Also I have seen that magnetized PMH flux also likes to travel through magnets, you can put a magnet close to a magnetized PMH and then break the lock by pulling one side of the steel bar off the U shape and sending flux through the magnet, then you can put the steel bar on its previous position and remove the magnet and the lock will still be there

[Cloxxki]

Rather than leave everyone hanging - and since a picture is worth a thousand words, I thought I would put this up:

Zoom Picture

You will notice that in the first layer we have a single circle.

In the second layer we have six circles around the first layer. A true circle can be plotted through the center of each of those circles using the first layer center as the larger circle center.

In the third layer however, the real geometry emerges. Here we find that we cannot plot a circle through all 12 third layer circles. Some have a different distance from the group center.

In the forth layer we learn that the geometry is scaling. From here on, it will be a larger and larger hexagon as noted by the RED line.

Note that the Blue Line is an equilateral triangle. This is true of every layer from two onwards. You will notice that the number of circles for any given side of the triangle increases by one for each layer. So, the second layer has 2 circles on each side of the triangle, the third layer has 3, the fourth layer has 4 and so on.

So in answer to my questions above, you now you know the unique geometry and why and also know that the circles will not fit nicely into a circle arrangement because there are gaps along the hexagonal faces and the superscribed circle.

Great stuff Harvey!

Are you able to explain the (apparentlycounted to be) 4 poles in the 24-section PMH, when your design here offers anything but 90 degree angles?

Ed's 4-clover layer I believe should be vital towards understanding what he did, and how to take it to his level of operation. I could speculate to the point of some special constant overbalance, but would not be able to even argument it.

@Jetijs, I can't wait to learn of your progress! :-)
Seems you'll be energizing it without segmenting it? I wonder if that will affect performance in any way. Good luck with your work on this!

[Jetijs]

jet..is your latest photo..all cut out of a single piece of steel?????????

Yes, that is cut out from a single piece of steel sheet, 6mm thick.

could set up an oscillation in the ring because half of the V magnets face the opposite direction, but the domains want to align with the circle flux. That demagnetization causes a flux change which results in eddy currents in the material that could result in a reversal of the flux and the possible oscillation. Conventional physics would expect the oscillation to dampen as energy is dissipated, but with Leedskalnin, who knows what may happen.

I might add too, that Ed could have understood thermocouple action well enough to force dissimilar metals into the gaps between magnets and that could have converted ambient heat to electric current in the ring.

Thanks for the idea! I will try this out.

@ Jetijs

Jetijs

[Agent.A]

@ Jetijs

[Harvey]

7 Circle Geometry continued

. . .

Now - how many 2" circles can you fit inside that big 13.38" center circle? Will they be nicely fitted? How does that relate to the 7 circles? What unique geometry occurs on the third layer from the center? Why?

Rather than leave everyone hanging - and since a picture is worth a thousand words, I thought I would put this up:

Zoom Picture

You will notice that in the first layer we have a single circle.

In the second layer we have six circles around the first layer. A true circle can be plotted through the center of each of those circles using the first layer center as the larger circle center.

In the third layer however, the real geometry emerges. Here we find that we cannot plot a circle through all 12 third layer circles. Some have a different distance from the group center.

In the forth layer we learn that the geometry is scaling. From here on, it will be a larger and larger hexagon as noted by the RED line.

Note that the Blue Line is an equilateral triangle. This is true of every layer from two onwards. You will notice that the number of circles for any given side of the triangle increases by one for each layer. So, the second layer has 2 circles on each side of the triangle, the third layer has 3, the fourth layer has 4 and so on.

So in answer to my questions above, you now you know the unique geometry and why and also know that the circles will not fit nicely into a circle arrangement because there are gaps along the hexagonal faces and the superscribed circle.

[rave154]

jet..is your latest photo..all cut out of a single piece of steel?????????

[Harvey]

Hi all
. . . I guess I will have to wind more than one coil on these plates, because the overall flux path length in this plate is way longer than in the bent half tube setup. . . .

could set up an oscillation in the ring because half of the V magnets face the opposite direction, but the domains want to align with the circle flux. That demagnetization causes a flux change which results in eddy currents in the material that could result in a reversal of the flux and the possible oscillation. Conventional physics would expect the oscillation to dampen as energy is dissipated, but with Leedskalnin, who knows what may happen.

I might add too, that Ed could have understood thermocouple action well enough to force dissimilar metals into the gaps between magnets and that could have converted ambient heat to electric current in the ring.

[ABCStore]

I'll bet Leedskalnin's device is still operational.

ABC

[Jetijs]

Hi all
A little update from me. I finally got the laser cut plates. They are 200mm in diameter and 6mm thick. I guess I will have to wind more than one coil on these plates, because the overall flux path length in this plate is way longer than in the bent half tube setup. I have three of such plates. Will keep you up to date.





Thanks,
Jetijs

[witsend]

Witsend,

Help us all better understand what "your cup of tea is"?

I'm possibly not as spiritually 'advanced' as you guys are - Indiana. I do not hold with 'third eyes' and such like. But - as a general philosophical proposition - it's certainly interesting.

What is your purpose in discounting this without doing the exercise?

Discounting it? That would have involved a discussion. I simply do not spend time on it as it holds no appeal for me - personally. Not sure why you should find this objectionable. I'm happy that you - unlike me - understand it. Nor would I prescribe your interests. Please don't prescribe mine.

You provide an armchair opinion of "imagined" without giving it a whirl.

Indeed. I find it entirely engrossing to look at science and scientific theories. Not actually into philosophy at all.

It is very much in line with assisting Dave and those with PMH's to see waves emanating from it.

I'll tell you what. Now that it's been pointed out that a blue light is 'more energetic' then indeed I intend to view my own rig through a blue light. So. Thanks for the tip.

[witsend]

Hi again Adie. I watched these last links of yours. Very nice indeed.

Also as Catlady commented, Harvey posted that battleship video at post #964

I know this. I wasn't sure if you'd watched them is all. In my opinion that is is a significant link as it relates to your thesis.

In some ways your ideas on centrifugal forces are not unlike my own. I also need orbits - but I need magnetic fields to orbit. Which, in the first instance, means that I need them to be extant away from electric fields. And I propose three different types of magnetic field - being 1, 2 and 3 dimensional. We know of and use the 3 dimensional field - which always takes the fundamental shape of a toroid. The other two are hidden within and around the atomic structure itself. The 1 dimensional field I attribute to the Casimir effect. They keep matter bound - in one condition - and loosen their grip in another. But the only localised spin - in my own thesis - is in the fields themselves. In other words the electron is pushed into an orbit. Our planet is pushed into an orbit. And so on And since I see the biggest toroidal field - being the whole of the universe - then technically it's also spinning. But Adie - I can't get my head around a centrifugal force unless it's also somehow made of 'something' - some material. But that speaks to my own limitations. Not yours.

[Adie123]

LOL Adie. I never knew this. At its least it shows us that either the Big Bang theory is wrong or that they've got the dates wrong. Or that the speed of light is somewhat greater than C - God forbid. Priceless piece of informtaion.

check this out Hubble Deep Field

update of same Hubble Deep Field a little wierdly editted with clips of other youtube vids but this one mentions images of 78 billion lightyears away.


Also as Catlady commented, Harvey posted that battleship video at post #964

[IndianaBoys]

My only concern is that it depends on 'imagined' faces - facts.

Witsend,

Help us all better understand what "your cup of tea is"?

What is your purpose in discounting this without doing the exercise?

You provide an armchair opinion of "imagined" without giving it a whirl.

It is very much in line with assisting Dave and those with PMH's to see waves emanating from it.

The idea behind using a blue light allows for an easier time to see the waves emanating from the PMH. The use of blue has been used in the past to help train the eyes to see electromagnetic radiation by Walter John Kilner. That idea carried forward to the glasses used in the movie "They Live".

Walter John Kilner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IndianaBoys