gravity waves found

[Harvey]

David,

Your foregoing posts certainly give us both word and visual pictures of the thoughts that are racing in your mind and I commend you for sharing them with us.

There still seems to be a bridge lacking to help us organize all of this into a coherent stream that we can derive benefit from. It needs a theme or central pathway that links the imagery together in a common direction and gives us a recognizable development of progression.

For example, it may be said that an atomic bomb explosion spreads outward from a central event in all direction and has no one way that it can be developed. And if you are at the center of that event and are looking at it from the inside that is what you would see, everything moving away from you with no real structure. However, when viewed from a distance it can be seen that there is a progression involved where several different blast waves radiate outward in the horizontal plane at different speeds and an intense thermal increase results that vaporizes all water in the air and causes a massive vertical rise which also pushes against the Earth's surface to get lift even in the presence of a vacuum. Then the pressure waves that formerly radiated outward, rush back in horizontally to fill that vacuum as an immense column of vapor and smoke thrust vertically into the atmosphere and spread out at the top. So from a distance, we can see the progression and the final structure, the all too familiar "Mushroom" cloud and the large circular pad of destruction it leaves in its wake.

So in this case, our connection path is time. It weaves each part of the overall event into a progression from start to finish that gives us the whole picture. So even though all of the parts go off in a plethora of directions and vectors of actions and reactions in what would seem to be an impossible task to map out, time and geometry help us to give the event shape and and a recognizable structure.

So it is with all the information you have at your disposal. It may seem to be going off in every which direction, but there must be a common thread, something, that ties it all together if it is related.

[Harvey]

On a completely separate note, if you want to have a bit of fun, look at this image through 3D (Red & Blue) glasses:



Close each eye and observe the color differentials. Notice that the green and red together look like pure gold.

Next, look at the emblem 3 spaces to the right of top center and observe it's shape and position. That symbol is found in two other places as well with just 3 claws. Use a technique similar to that used for stereoscopic viewing by crossing your eyes until the large blue circle on the upper left (under the fourth emblem left of top center) overlays the large green circle in the upper right (under the fourth emblem right of top center). It takes some skill to do this, but your peripherals will fade off and you are left with a symbol that matches that third one right of top center. Also, that symbol becomes the top symbol in the stereoscopic image.

The resulting stereoscopic is an image that resembles an eye (like the CBS icon) rotated 90° surrounded by 10 emblems with the super imposed tiger claw at the center.

Interesting also, is that the Red, Green & Blue primary colors result in white. The blue circles on the upper left with Red inside, the Green on the upper right with Red inside if mixed as a light source (not reflected) would give us white as shown in the lower center circle. Those 3 circles intersect at the tongue which has one of the other two symbols.

Did the Mayan's (Or should I say Aztecs) understand how to produce Red, Green and Blue light with stereoscopic and 3D imagery, or has this been colorized by someone in our modern era and the stereoscopic stuff is just a coincidence?

[solrey]

David said:
thank you solrey...this is exactly what i am trying to POINT out ....our existence is a spherical reflection of an Infinite Point.....the infinite is a point, a line, a ray , a disc, a spiral etc. please critique my thesis.....see Pi paradox solved....david ...

OK, since you asked, but I don't think you're gonna like it.

This is coming from someone (me) who took calculus in high school and tutored basic math in college.

My impression is that you struggle when working with basic addition, subtraction, multiplication and division because you don't really understand the concepts of mathematics or numbers. I tutored a couple of freshmen like that, made me want to
(I hope you realize that comment you got on overunity forum about being a gifted mathematician came from someone who admittedly sucks at math )

There is no paradox surrounding pi. pi is just the ratio between the circumference and diameter of a circle. However, mathematicians throughout history have participated in somewhat of a competition to produce equations to calculate pi ever more precisely. You ain't even close, especially if you think that the ratio of 3.14:1 is the same as the decimal .314 .

As for your idea as to why sound doesn't travel in a vacuum, you obviously don't understand how sound propagates through a medium. Sound doesn't travel in a vacuum because there aren't enough molecules/atoms for compression waves to act on. Here's a little vid to help you out.
YouTube - Sound - Bell in Vacuum

This statement hits the nail on the head, imho:

This all started soon after you sent David a PM related to spinning things. It's probably a good thing you kept it private

Basically what you're calling a theory is really just a meaningless, nonsensical hodgepodge of concepts which are new to you and that you aren't even close to understanding. I dare say it's rather childish and you should be

After all these months and numerous suggestions on how to measure any effects your "device" might produce, you have yet to demonstrate anything quantifiable. All you've done is claim to "see" or "feel" something and post videos that all contain expected optical/digital compression artifacts. Well if you can see or feel it, you can measure it. I think you're blinded by confirmation bias so I doubt you'd report negative results if you actually did try some of those suggestions.

if this is nothing it will fade away

That's a reality I think you should be prepared to accept.

cheers

[Harvey]

. . . Well if you can see or feel it, you can measure it. . . .

Some of the discussion in this thread dealt specifically with how we "see" things. It was demonstrated rather well that the human mind is able to "see" things that are not there and thus are not measurable without doing a brain scan during the observation. For example, what you see during REM sleep is not readily measurable by outsiders (those outside of your mind). Another example are visual responses to hallucinogenic compounds. It has been widely reported that individuals who have take LSD will see colored streaks in the air behind moving objects like their hands and fingers. This is probably related to persistence of vision, but still underscores the fact that the brain can produce imagery related to latent patterns and has the ability to amplify subtle differences in certain situations.


We also have determined that a similar thing can occur with hearing, where our minds will insert a missing fundamental.

I am convinced that David and his associates see what they say they see. But how and why is still a mystery or at least an unresolved issue. It is possible that there is some subtle pattern involved that David and his associates are able to convert to flowing colors and those patterns persist even in the videos. Sucahyo's work on this was good, but the thresholds he used may have been in the wrong place with regards to what constituted a change in the images. Also, it has been reported that individuals who have been exposed to psychotropic chemicals may have flash backs, and these could be triggered from certain patterns or events.

Please don't conclude from my comments here that I am accusing David and his associates of taking drugs. I am merely pointing out that the brain has the ability to do these things when stimulated in a certain way. For all we know, the variations of the wheel turning is a trigger for some people similar to the stroboscopic trigger in some children that leads to seizures.

Wouldn't it be something if we were to find out that certain people can detect gravity waves just because of how the spacing on the eyes perceives the Lorentz contraction they cause on affected light and the resulting timing involved?

[solrey]

Thanks for pointing that out Harvey. I was thinking "Well, if there is actually something there that you can see and feel, then you can measure it." but for some reason I didn't write it that way.

Some of the discussion in this thread dealt specifically with how we "see" things.

Yep, I've discussed various optical illusions related to Davids wheel on the thunderbolts forum and probably on this thread as well. I've also discussed things like the moire effect, CMOS sensor behavior and digital compression artifacts related to Davids videos. How we "see" or "perceive" things is quite an interesting subject, btw.

Speaking of how we perceive things, has anyone ever balanced a pole vertically, like a broomstick or something, on their fingertips or palm and noticed how it feels "lighter" when it's perfectly still and balanced as opposed to a "heavier" feeling when it's not balanced and gains some momentum before you move around to compensate? I think that's what David is experiencing when he "feels" a change in weight of relatively heavy objects he's kind of balancing not so well on his fingertips over the wheel in some of those videos.

For all we know, the variations of the wheel turning is a trigger for some people similar to the stroboscopic trigger in some children that leads to seizures.

I suggest it's likely a factor of being "hypnotized" by a belief system combined with the effect of optical illusions.

David mentioned that he sees (I'm not sure if anyone else does) some kind of distortion under a block in one of those old grainy b&w photos of Ed at work (working with a hoist, btw) and David is convinced that Ed, and the Egyptians et al., must have used some kind of electro-magneto anti-gravity thingiemabob in order to move those massive stones around. (However, it's been demonstrated that moving heavy blocks and such isn't all that hard with the proper know how and the simplest of tools, which Ed had and is photographed using. )
Perhaps David, and maybe others, have what can be considered a belief system revolving around Ed and anti-gravity. David has emphatically declared that he's proven Ed to be right, in a manner more akin to worship than objective inquiry. David builds (a roughshod version, btw) of what he apparently thinks is a replica of Ed's generator/PMH or something, spins it around (with at least some pre-conceived expectations), sees an optical illusion and... voila, hypnotized by a belief system.

Based on the evidence thus far, to me that's the most likely scenario.

cheers

[Harvey]

Even though Ed demonstrated (by his gate) that tons of rock mass could easily be put in motion by the smallest of forces applied over a relatively small duration of time there are still some questions related to 'how' he did it all.

He did leave us clues. In the photo with the hoist we can see small round logs or pipes that can be used for putting the stones in motion and moving them from place to place.

But when we look at the photo, we are faced with a perplexing issue.

Let us take the skeptical stance that the hoist had an electric starter motor attached to a flywheel and some type of escapement to lock it in place and the wires we see routed are just power feeds for remote operation of the hoist. We then must accept that Ed must have used some method to attach the hoist to the stone either by anchoring into it or wrapping around it. So far, so good.

The structure of the hoist is not exactly designed for over balancing. While it can be easily seen that it can lift vertically with out any critical issue, once the stone is lifted above the pit surface we are left with the problem of moving it sideways over to the rollers. Now, even though telephone poles are quite dense it is unlikely that they would offset the leverage of a block moved beyond their base.

I suppose some of those rollers could be long enough to span the pit and form a bridge that other rollers could then roll on. That would satisfy the problem. Ancient images show stones and statues being moved on log rollers and sledges by persons with ropes.

When I was 15 I had a problem. My mother had abandoned her Corvair in the sandy desert driveway after some engine trouble to such an extent that the tires rotted and could not hold air. My job was to move the car to the back where it would be less of an eyesore. The problem was, it had sunk so deeply into the sand that I couldn't get a jack under even if I had one. Using some 4x4's and rocks I was able to lift the car several inches with ease. But I had to use a some buckets on the end of the lever to hold it in place until I could block things up. It took me a couple of hours to get the job done, but I finally got some tires with air on it and was able to push it around back by myself. So I know it's possible for a 130 Lb weakling (as I was at the time) to move a 2,000 Lb object a considerable (about 50 yards) distance by himself with just primitive tools.

But we still don't know why there were reports of "floating" the blocks nor how he was able to move the castle in such a short period of time, reportedly loading one of the trucks with several blocks in less than a half hour with no apparent means to do so.

Is there a gravitational secret to Coral Castle?

[david lambright]

hi

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post129423 read this!...david

[david lambright]

harvey

harvey
i see that you are online...did you get a chance to look at pi paradox solved? can you see the connection yet?....david

[Harvey]

harvey
i see that you are online...did you get a chance to look at pi paradox solved? can you see the connection yet?....david

Posted there

[david lambright]

the moon at coral castle

is not a moon ...it is an orbit....i have made an iron oxide ring using foam insulation as a mold ....i energized it 2 times ONLY....at exactly the point of the CENTER of the lesser orbit...i found something quite extraordinary!....at that point, there is an energy vortex that is TANGIBLE....this energy is REAL....all the greats talked about it, the ancients used it ...Hutchinson,Tesla, pioneers in new energy methods showed some of what it can do....a PMH energized 2 times reverses the normal convective flow, hot/up, cold/down...heres the thing, what good does that do? gravity is that exact flow....i have tried to show this the flame or the upward convective force is anti gravity...i think we all agree on that...here lies the question..is that force, hot/up, cold/down, tied to temperature ??...the fact that any rise of temperature creates a convection current to equalize is insightful...if we could get something sufficiently cold, it should resist gravity and flow up..supercooled helium does exactly this...this is fact...but it is difficult to bring the background temperature down enough to achieve anti gravity...superconduction is antigravity....oxides make the best superconductors this is also fact....a PMH made of Fe3o4 will retain its orbiting magnetic energy indefinitely.... the energy can be seen when keeper is removed....this is fact...when the PMH is in the energized state, this force, magnetic in nature flows freely in the center of the PMH material.....think of it like an infinite spring ...in the PMH it is stretched thin always spinning forward with a right hand twist....when the keeper is pulled off , the spring coils wind out getting big enough to affect the copper coil, and lighting the bulb, for an instant....this is fact...the force IS there, and is magnetic in nature, it flows super conductive INSIDE the PMH...are you in agreement so far? ..when a PMH is energized, there is helical spin of magnetic energy...this gives rise to a directional temperature flow....hot/up, cold/down, but not necessarily in that order....in an ambient or even temperature, it does not take much to change convection direction it would be impossible to do so otherwise....there is a balance point....if you can get the flow started at the balance point, it will continue to flow that way .....so now, cold is up and hot is down....try to visualize Eds rotor, at the plane, a disc extends outward, at the poles a line ...where the line meets the disc, a funnel or vortex forms on both sides...an anti bubble, a vacuum, a cavity in space.....now this is where it gets tricky...ok so the convective flows are reversed, there has to be TWO flows, direction does not matter at this point, but GRAVITY is still uneven...to reverse gravity, you must start at the balance point.....remember the Sumerian pictograph? ... the figure has his foot on the balance point, the gravitational balance point...[zero point]....the PMH is real ...the magnetic energy it holds [orbital motion] is real....it is super flowing at room temperature [it flows indefinitely] is also true....the PMH, creates a dual orbit of energy...to utilize this flow, it must be harnessed... just as you siphon water TOWARDS the center of gravity, the flow away from gravity must start in a siphon....where it enters the metal wire, [hook above the pole]it is a vortex, HOT now being the down flow [at the PMH] starts a whirlpool at the hook siphon and starts to flow......is any one grasping this?...i KNOW that there must be other replicators that have come to these same conclusions by experimentation....my devices radiate energy this is a FACT.....the mechanics are being explained so anyone can understand......more soon.....david

[solrey]

So much nonsense I don't know where to begin even if I had the time so I'll just highlight one glaringly obvious falsity.

the flame or the upward convective force is anti gravity...i think we all agree on that

Nope. It's called buoyancy. We've gone over this before but you just refuse to listen or learn. What was that your chemistry teacher said again...they'd rather quit than have you in their class? Yes, I concur.

The rest is a copy of my comment on the "pi paradox" thread:

David wrote:
and i have used drugs in the past ....i have been in prison too....i have ADD...but to base any of what i am saying on those facts is ludicrous

I couldn't have judged what you're saying based on those facts because you didn't divulge them until recently. Even if I had known, I'm judging what you're saying based on the fact that you've presented not one shred of real evidence to back your claims. You have also demonstrated that you don't actually understand the concepts of the terms you've cobbled together and yammer on about.

let me say first that i DO understand math more than you think

I admit I was wrong about that. Upon reflection after reading the following:

AND check this [3.14/ 3.14=1] = [.314/ .314=1]......in this equation they are equal!

Your understanding of math appears to be LESS than I originally thought.
Any number divided by itself equals one...basic, basic, basic kid stuff.

Here's your chance to prove me wrong, David. You say the Julia set applies to your "theory". Here's the base form:

f(z)=z^2+c

What is the initial value (or function) of z and how did you obtain that value (or function)?
What is the value of c and how did you obtain that value?
What do those iterations describe in your theory?

Einstein did not pass his entrance exam...possibly autistic

Ummm, possibly because he was only 16 and didn't study for the exam on his first attempt.

think about some of the other greats of energy

Are you trying to compare yourself to the likes of Tesla or Einstein?


cheers

[sucahyo]

David, I hope you check your pm. If you see similar thing as PMH then we have answer of how to make PMH stronger.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

Super conductivity is the ability to allow the aetheric streams of energy (which are responsible for gravity, by flowing INTO all matter creating an inertial pull in toward the center, with the strength increasing as the amount of matter/mass increases) to PASS THROUGH or be entirely BLOCKED, thus allowing electrons to flow freely.

As for the flame, first look at the normal flame. It's just like a plasma ball.... You have an open air plasma there. You have red and blue together ALWAYS. Red is negative, blue is positive (it might be the opposite, but I'm pretty sure I'm right). You can't measure the electric field because it's always self-neutralizing. In space, the electric field is different because the aether flow density is greatly reduced. That's why the lack of both colors, and the lack of it floating up.

I GUARANTEE you, that if you were to create a magnetic bottle/confinement around a flame, you'd have CHARGE SEPARATION occur, and the red could exist separate from the blue.

You want to see something REALLY out of this world? build a fire with a VERY VERY VERY slow flame velocity. You can move your hand around it and the flames respond just like the ions in a plasma ball. Try pushing, bulling, and poking motions. I was doing it the other night in my wood stove that has a glass door. (this may only work if you are healthy and your body's electric field is working right, and the stronger your auric electric field is, the more you can control the flames.)

[solrey]

As for the flame, first look at the normal flame. It's just like a plasma ball.... You have an open air plasma there. You have red and blue together ALWAYS. Red is negative, blue is positive (it might be the opposite, but I'm pretty sure I'm right). You can't measure the electric field because it's always self-neutralizing. In space, the electric field is different because the aether flow density is greatly reduced. That's why the lack of both colors, and the lack of it floating up.

I GUARANTEE you, that if you were to create a magnetic bottle/confinement around a flame, you'd have CHARGE SEPARATION occur, and the red could exist separate from the blue.

It's true that a flame is in the plasma state, however the percent ionization is rather low so it's considered a weakly ionized plasma. Color in a flame is primarily a product of chemical composition of the fuel and temperature, not the electrical polarity of the particles.

Here's an image of a flame in an electric field between two conducting plates. The flame responds to the electric field but the charge separation is mostly negligible. Note how the color is pretty much even across the entire flame.




cheers

[david lambright]

wow

all i was trying to show in that picture is that a flame, heat, has a component that moves AWAY from gravity. Solrey in the image he sent, has shown also that this force has a direction in a electric field....question; does polarity in the electric field dictate the flow direction of the flame? Anyway a flame on the surface of Earth burns away from the center of gravity? Do we agree on that?