Vegetable Cooking Oil can save 1 Month Pollution Every Year

[juju]

this is a study i made some time ago... so its not really updated...


VEGETABLE OIL WORLD TOTAL CONSUMPTION:
115 million tons


FOSSIL FUEL WORLD TOTAL CONSUMPTION:
1548 million tons


less 27 days of pollution every year, if we recycle all the cooking oil and transform it to bio-diesel!

Plus that we will be avoiding the pollution of millions liters of water that the vegetable oil causes when it is disposed, and doing it this way it does not pollutes.


Ingredients:
Vegetable oil - used or new, if you want
Caustic soda - you'll find easy for sale, is cheap.
Methanol - on sale about € 1.40 liter.

Mixing ratio: 1 liter oil + 2.5 g caustic soda + 1 dl methanol (for 10 liters - 10 gallons of oil + 25 grams of soda + 1 liter of methanol)

Method:
Heat oil to about 45 ° C, I use an immersion resistance, will sell in any hyper. (Not heat the oil in excess of 50 º C, the methanol evaporates at this temperature). Mix Soda with the methanol. CAUTION, methanol is highly flammable gases and this mixture releases very heat.
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Should have on hand a bottle of vinegar because mixing soda with methanol forms a very strong foundation, if necessary, it should cancel the same with an acid, then the vinegar. NEVER close the container where the mixing takes place, you must have a hole to "breathe." DO NOT inhale the gases that mix releases. When methanol and soda are mixed, put it in the oil (temp + / - 45 degrees C). Mix for one hour.

At the end of an hour with the mixer, turn off and let stand for at least 8 hours. After this time, the glycerin that resulted from the chemical process will be in the background, like a brownish paste, gelatin, and would represent some 10% of total volume. What's on top, has the viscosity of diesel fuel and is BIODIESEL.

USE Always wear eye protection.


what do you think of this solution? is not easy to achieve? start recycling your vegetable oil now! anyone here do it?

[sucahyo]

See this thread too where the device construction is explained:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5475-alcohol-can-gas-biofuels.html

While the title mention alcohol, it actually discuss converting oil to biodiesel.

[juju]

thanks suchayo

i have searched for "bio diesel" at the search, and i have not found any thread, so thats why i posted it...

the purpose is not to only talk about making bio-diesel! but about the statistics i have shown!!

king regards

[citfta]

biodiesel

Hi juju,

Try searching using biodiesel. You'll get a lot more hits. My son and I have been making biodiesel for several years now. I have posted some info about what we have been doing in the Alcohol and biofuel thread.

Carroll

[sucahyo]

What I worry is, when everybody start converting used oil to biodiesel, the price of vegetable oil climb....

[ashtweth]

HEMP is the cheapest bio fuel

ethanol also

[juju]

What I worry is, when everybody start converting used oil to biodiesel, the price of vegetable oil climb....

sorry but you are wrong sucahyo, the price of the vegatable oil only climbs when there is more demand than supply!!

in this case the demand and the supply are always the same, you cannot recycle used vegetable oil to make new vegetable oil, but you can recycle it to make bio-diesel!

the production of bio-diesel using used vege oil, is the only way to save the oill from being improperly disposed, and turn it into not pollutant cheap fuel.

ashtweth, incubated algae ar also very good source!

but you need the time for that kind of sources to grow, used oil is something that you allready have and its being almost tottaly droped out and wasted!

[sucahyo]

sorry but you are wrong sucahyo, the price of the vegatable oil only climbs when there is more demand than supply!!

In here used vegetable oil is sold to either car oil maker or poor people. If the husband start buying vegetables oil too, then the price of used vegetable oil will climb. If the used one climb in price, the fresh one usually climb too.

the production of bio-diesel using used vege oil, is the only way to save the oill from being improperly disposed, and turn it into not pollutant cheap fuel.

I don't think I ever see problem of dumping used vegetables oil here, it seems to be reused for something.[/QUOTE]

[juju]

not more than 5%

In here used vegetable oil is sold to either car oil maker or poor people. If the husband start buying vegetables oil too, then the price of used vegetable oil will climb. If the used one climb in price, the fresh one usually climb too.

are you from europe? the fresh one, haves nothing to do with the used one. I know because my father works in the field of food trade, including vegetable oil. The price of the cooking oil have increased when some producers of plant source (sunflower, etc) started selling the product to biodiesel industry instead of the food industry, because of best offers. so there was more demand then supply in food trade.

Im not apologist of that method, the oil should pass this process:

1 planted> - 2 vegetable oil> - 3 used oil> - 4 biodiesel

if you jump from the 1, to the 4 will happen what i explained before.
Folowing all 4 steps there's no chance that used oil or new oil markets will ever interfer with one another.. besides, the used oil here dont have any price, its a favour you do to the people to collect them.

I don't think I ever see problem of dumping used vegetables oil here, it seems to be reused for something.

you must live in a great and very good country...

In my country de estimated value of used oil is 125 thousand tons per year, of witch only 3 thousand tons are beeing recycled. Here the final destiny of used cooking oil is over the producers of bio-diesel, we dont have a mandatory collection system. That way the primary destiny of the used oil is the sewage treatment, and then dumped again in the water.

I can bet, that the worlds total percentage of used vegetable oil being processed to biodiesel dont represent more than 5% of the total amount. but of course not the rule in every countries, there are always exeptions.

[sucahyo]

I live in Indonesia, don't Penzoil also collect used oil in other country?

There were once time when two liter of vegetable oil is cheaper than a liter of car oil. Not a liter of vegetable oil is the same as a liter of car oil. A used vegetable oil seems mostly recycled by car oil maker, then cheap vegetable oil maker. With the help of plant seed, the oil is being purified. Will make a good oil base for car oil, but will make a bad vegetable oil.

It's price is comparable to the price of a liter of diesel fuel.

[Sephiroth]

I don't drive, but out of curiosity, does any one know the current tax regulations for bio fuel in the UK? At one point I remember us being the only country in the EU to charge tax on bio fuel (at around 28p per litre) But there were rumors of it being scrapped...

Gotta love the UK?

[Sephiroth]

I live in Indonesia, don't Penzoil also collect used oil in other country?

There were once time when two liter of vegetable oil is cheaper than a liter of car oil. Not a liter of vegetable oil is the same as a liter of car oil. A used vegetable oil seems mostly recycled by car oil maker, then cheap vegetable oil maker. With the help of plant seed, the oil is being purified. Will make a good oil base for car oil, but will make a bad vegetable oil.

It's price is comparable to the price of a liter of diesel fuel.

lol... in the UK you can get a litre of vegetable oil for less than 30p, but diesel is nearly £1.20 (per Litre)!

oh yes... nearly all of that is tax....

[juju]

or...

you can collect it used from people and for free... (in average a house of 4 persons use 1L per week)

then you can spend arround 2€ in 1L of metanol and 25 grams of soda and make 10Liters of bio-diesel.. hmm lets see, 0,20€/per liter without polluting the environment?

spectacular!! (here, the price of diesel is near 1,5€)


oh sephirot, i forgot the tax, that is really a pain in the ass!


will not be long to the police start smelling our car tanks

[sucahyo]

I see, the price of used oil in here is relatively close to other country then. I guess diesel fuel here is cheaper than others....

[juju]

sucahyo

the tax applyed on the used cooking oil source bio-diesel, is the same as the applyed to diesel oil in your country?

it should not match the prices because petrol is new sorce, and vebetable oil is used source... that is sadly...


hugs my friend