Steorn is open -Panacea has a license

[ashtweth]

Ashweth, can you tell us anything about what you get with your kit? I know you can't tell us part numbers or anything like that, but just a little info on what's there?

Hi EthelAether, you get magnetic bearings, magnets and coils, a very cheap power to weight ratio if this performs. The solid state is even cheaper to construct. But this is all i can say AT THIS TIME , IT MAY CHANGE IN FUTURE

[EthelAether]

Hi EthelAether, you get magnetic bearings, magnets and coils, a very cheap power to weight ratio if this performs. The solid state is even cheaper to construct. But this is all i can say AT THIS TIME , IT MAY CHANGE IN FUTURE

Hey ok, thanks! Thats cool!

So there only sending out kits for the rotating devices now? Is there an E.T.A. on the solid state ones? I read somwhere that the rotating eOrbo stuff was too much of a problem and that they only cared about solid state, so maybe I'm a little confused.. How long do you think it will take for you to get the kit built and working?

Thanks for the update! Steorn continues to pick my mind, they are really on something big!

[gravityblock]

GB, post #125 was explained to Broli , as we know he means well, but it was a request to let REAL tested information flow and not guess and it was stated nicely to him. if the Steorn device performs or fails that's not our concern or claim, our claim is to investigate it for the open source community and report honestly and to make a thread where real information-DIRECT information can flow about the investigation, not complaints, guessing or non license chatter. That was requested kindly

As for you, you dont deserve common courtesy .You have no place in this thread or for serious research, your pushy and ungrateful attitude is earning you an admin warning, broli knows not to guess and have doubts in this thread, as explained to him this is for the genuine investigation of the Steorn information. Not guessing, not doubts.So your way off I am requesting that you or any one else are not AGAIN to post any distracting post in this thread any more. What a waste of time. I dont have any more time to address any distracting pushy ungrateful people who contribute nothing to real investigation through Steorn's genuine information.

Have a good day GB.


Ashtweth

The patent Broli mentioned contains real and tested information by Steorn. This is not guessing. The patent is important and deserves genuine investigation. If you disagree with this, then you'll have to deal with it. Also, if you don't want license chatter, then why is it part of the title and topic of this thread?

I could care less about your Admin warnings. You are the one who is starting flame wars and bashing others for posting relevant and important information in an attempt for a genuine open source investigation. Your investigation is shrouded in a NDA and the important parameters for a successful build will be hidden from this community, regardless of whatever you report.

If you don't want any distractions, then stop bashing, threatening and starting flame wars when others are trying to be helpful and are making an honest attempt in contributing to this thread.

I am sure there are many who would like to contribute to this thread in a positive way (including me), but it would more than likely be met with opposition from you because you would call it guessing and time wasting, along with threats and warnings. Is this the mentality you want in this thread and forum? It would be nice if this community could come together, but I don't see this happening with the suppressive and dictatorial way this thread is being ran.

Continue on with your investigation.

GB

[ashtweth]

Hey ok, thanks! Thats cool!

So there only sending out kits for the rotating devices now? Is there an E.T.A. on the solid state ones? I read somwhere that the rotating eOrbo stuff was too much of a problem and that they only cared about solid state, so maybe I'm a little confused.. How long do you think it will take for you to get the kit built and working?

Thanks for the update! Steorn continues to pick my mind, they are really on something big!

Yes, we got the rotating one and had to make the SS our selves. Will test both for all, and it wont be on a meter it will be running a real load Looks like the SS is taking baby steps, but we have a few ideas and have made a circuit for it with some cascading concepts, the kit when we receive the instructions LOL should be assembled in a matter of days, we are winding the coils for it ATM.Yes there seems to be a bit of confusion going around with the Steorn, i guess time will tell. So far if we can replicate the demos version it should work well as we got 2 extra pick up coils for it to get more power out.

okay after a 12 hour day filming the new fuel saving and vehicle modification production i am beat

Ash

[gravityblock]

Anyone interested in data and experiments done within the confines of the Open Source Community showing the OU effect is real, please send me a PM and I will give you the link. For scientists, the data presented should be enough to convince them in the reality of the OU effect.

Since the OU effect has been narrowed down, we can now start to work on a self-sustaining device. The coil winding method is important along with the wire length and thickness. There is no need to wait for Ash to report. The reports are already out.

GB

[gravityblock]

Really man, there is noting private about validating the effect for the open source community and being through with what we are doing.
Ash

The OU effect has already been validated by the Open Source Community, as I have previously stated.

GB

[EthelAether]

The OU effect has already been validated by the Open Source Community, as I have previously stated.

GB

srsly? Where is that at?

[gravityblock]

srsly? Where is that at?

Check your PM, I sent you the link.

GB

[ashtweth]

If some one wants to post a replication of an effect with a device that's related DIRECTLY to Steorn, then by all means this would be helpful in a thread for it ,but after seeing this guys attitude i doubt it will be what it appears. Why not post it in a thread especially after a request has been put out to focus on the genuine article.

They have not open source the method, plus that document on the lite Skbd lite forum does not tell you how to build the roto version/SS we have here based on the official license info. There are 101 guessing Steorn threads and doubting threads.

I am glad we have some where to do genuine investigation finally.
Why not keep the related info in its own thread this was the only thing ever requested politely.

Ash

[gravityblock]

They have not open source the method, plus that document on the lite Skbd lite forum does not tell you how to build the roto version/SS we have here based on the official license info. There are 101 guessing Steorn threads and doubting threads.
Ash

Just because the method hasn't been open sourced by Steorn, doesn't mean the method is unknown to the Open Source Community. The method is known and the data presented should be enough to convince Scientists in the reality of the OU effect.

GB

[gravityblock]

@Ash:

I'm curious, How will you be validating the OU effect? By doing measurements, or by the evidence of a self-sustaining device?

Thanks,

GB

[ashtweth]

Well the open source method can be an interpretation, i'd rather find out from the source, i think most people would, good luck if you want to guess and open source it, i dont know how you will know its what Steorn have until you build the genuine info, Ok Ill get to your question as common courtesy is much better. Now if you read the thread, you will know that we intend to run it on super caps and perform real work with it to measure it. If we are allowed ill be taking requests from all. Building an application, this will be the final outcome, but first the rotor version will be in the form Steorn measured, to confirm where its at in regards to their data and ours.

Its a replication kit based on the OFFICIAL license data, so this should be a genuine replication of their open house Orbo. ESA already volunteered to go measure and photograph it (that's on the Panacea site), so that was the first thing to do, then the second was to build it.After we match our figures with theirs in the rotor version (solid state is separate) then we will RE AFFIRM it working performing real work before we can say it can be made into an application and has done what it should.

I'd be surprised if it can be looped right away, this is of cause a measurement technique only used by those who see in one dimension, Joseph Newman states you cant feed some processes back in on it self, it depends on what sort of open system this is, it could be that it can not be feed back and perform real work, it could be it has to be looped another way, but this is all speculation and guessing some thing this thread is designed to negate.

I can't talk about the SS tests yet, but will have a report on whether it performs, OU, looped etc etc. and it will be measured DOING REAL WORK. No meters, no Scopes. Real data for the open source community.Plus we will make a production out of it to support the open source community, help Steorn and FREE energy already started filming.

Still winding coils guys.

Ash

[EthelAether]

Joe is a sad ol half-psycho crackpot who thinks that motor power SQUARES with RPM. Watch teh vids, he has like 50 9volts powering his machine that will run on dead batteries, but needs at least like fifty of them whether or not they're dead.

He gets real mad about halfway though the vids, when some idiot starts asking questions. Some braindead idiot, with questions of all things LoL.

[EthelAether]

sry Ash, that came off harsh and I didnt mean it.. just that yr a smart guy and panacea can't succeed if you try to draw from Joe Newman, the old psychotic freak with a trailer and tent. Stick to the stuff that works like Tesla and Steorn.. McCarthy is like a millions of Newman without the insanity and violence.

Peace 2U and panacea uni

[ashtweth]

All good my friend. I guess Newman has never been the best front man, its a bit hard to tell for me too about his device , i should of been a bit more specific i was talking about his BOOK where he mentions some where about not being able to loop some processes. Sorry if i confused all.

Ash