Donald duck free energy generator

[Roland]

I'm new to this forum and frankly don't understand some of the mechanisms being talked about.

How can two wheels covered in magnets affect the power being transferred? Power is a product of speed and torque. Both wheels have the same speed and the torque on each other is the same as the magnetic forces are equal on each wheel.

If any of these units with motors driving alternators via magnetic couplings actually produced more power than they consumed how come none of them ever are shown with the output driving the input? All these systems work off external power and have very dubious figures quoted on inputs and outputs.

Any thoughts on these matters?

I understand where you are coming from, and yeah common since says to me this can't work. I can't completely explain why i think it could possibly work. Anyway my thoughts relate this to the power of a pendulum. The pendulum may easier to visualize how this may work. (Maybe it is just me)

Here is a video that demonstrates how a pendulum can transfer more usable power than just brute force.
YouTube - Superiority of Pendulum Drive - Potential Energy to Kinetic Energy
I think phenomenon would be very similar for this devices. A "gravity" is working on both. Newtons law says the pendulum should not perform more work ether, but some experiment show otherwise.

[LiamXaoh]

I don't see what that video has to do with the magnetic coupling. The notes with the video "Milkovic demonstrates a simple experiment showing the change of potential to kinetic energy and proving the energy excess is possible with the pendulum drive" are clearly misleading.

When he says "excess energy" what does he mean? Excess compared to what? Certainly not excess compared to the energy available in the ball falling from the height whether it be down the ramp in the trolley or the height it falls as a pendulum weight.

Rolling the ball down the trolley and it banging on the end of it is a very poor way to transfer energy. The pendulum is a far more efficient way but if the distance travelled is the measure then there is a far better way. I have done it for a school project.

[Roland]

I don't see what that video has to do with the magnetic coupling. The notes with the video "Milkovic demonstrates a simple experiment showing the change of potential to kinetic energy and proving the energy excess is possible with the pendulum drive" are clearly misleading.

When he says "excess energy" what does he mean? Excess compared to what? Certainly not excess compared to the energy available in the ball falling from the height whether it be down the ramp in the trolley or the height it falls as a pendulum weight.

Rolling the ball down the trolley and it banging on the end of it is a very poor way to transfer energy. The pendulum is a far more efficient way but if the distance traveled is the measure then there is a far better way. I have done it for a school project.

The Pendulum Effect relating to the magnetic coupling.


The way i see it, the pendulum example is the almost same action and reaction as the a magnets on rotors interacting. If you isolate the magnets on the rotors, you may understand my view point.
Thinking about just 1 magnet on a rotor, you can see the rotor with one magnet is just simple pendulum. The difference is with magnets the "gravity effect" (will call it that) can be over one hundred times stronger than just gravity. The fact that Magnetic attraction behaves differently (the attraction increasing greatly as the magnets approach each other) seems to me that it would enhance the Pendulum effect also.

The Pendulums Effects and excess energy?

I would ask if is possible that the pendulum harnesses some centrifugal force or what? I say yes, but I'm just a backyard experimenter so take it FWIW.

YouTube - Power of the Pendulum - Proof of Ultra-Efficiency?

Feltenberger Offers Gravity Assist to Utility Power

I see this in a very weird way and i could be way off, but at a point while looking at all these devices this really started to make sense to me. I do believe the Pendulum Effect does harness another energy above that of just gravity attraction. I believe it also harnesses centrifugal force to some degree. (is it really centrifugal force or or just something related to centrifugal force, im not sure what to call it so i'll cal it that for now).

So it is not hard for me to believe that this could work as described. I even think with some improvements it could give a much greater COP than what is shown. Their design has a lot of room for improvements IMO. If there is extra energy from a pendulum, i think a properly designed interactive magnetic rotor gears with many strong magnets interacting hundreds of time per minutes could out perform the swinging pendulum effect.

I'm almost finished with my version, I will see soon if it works

[Duncan]

And so the effort that is put into destroying the information by this filth is going to be directly proportional to the validity of the machine.New Free Energy by George Mitchell - YouTube and only because its already out there! However it would not be there at all unless it was a long way behind other systems like .. this shown on TV with a decent control system that has been working for years before this machine of George's https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...oper%2Bjob.png

However by accident there is something in Georges effort that does catch and hold my attention And it may be of interest to Mr B he was there as a very young Man helping when this film was shot 30 years ago. I take the liberty of including a screen shot taken from Floyd sweets secrets and I'm sure you'll see what has caught my attention In both films.https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...r%2Bfloyyd.pngEnergy Transformation for a Pendulumvisualise those changes physically occurring ?

[freepenguin]

@ Duncan,

Have you read or studied the inertia impulse theory by Philipp M. Kanarev?
He formulated the mysterious or flawed concept of inertia in conventional physics.

Applying his hypothesis explains many weird phenomena that suggests overunity system. For example, it takes about 50hp to reach 100km/h on highway. To maintain the 100km/h, cars needs only 30hp. Where does the 20hp goes?

The conventional physics gives up to explain it except the kinetic friction.

Any mechanical device that has two components will harness extra kinetic energy within the system. It has to have a primary object (a swing pendulum or rotating flywheel) and a trigger or impulse generator that keeps the primary object run to produce extra energy.

The time energy curve of the primary object is saw tooth shape. The impulse force keep the object moving while extracting the kinetic energy for usable electricity.

I've seen Pendulum + kicker, A fly wheel + a trigger wheel, a fly wheel + trigger attached on the rim.

Should I put the computer simulation data and 3D motions here? I'm uncertain. I'm at the stage of computer simulation. Honestly, it requires grade 12 math, college level physics, and few computer softwares.

It would be easy to calculate specific COP ratio once enough data is gathered through computer simulations (numerical analysis method). The margin of error is order of 10^-3 to 10^-5. There will be error between simulation data and real prototype machine but it's measurable.

I'd love to discuss about it - inertia impulse theory - using mathematics and physics with other members. I'm pretty sure it can be done.

Once we find the real theory, builders don't have to tinker or blindly chasing the FE device. Of course, it's one solution of FE devices.

[Duncan]

Summary of Series and Parallel ResonancePractical Guide to Free-Energy Devices - eBook Download (chapter 2 page 41) obviously like Tesla hyper sensitive to the slightest change. an then A professor noted a change in the action of the pendulum Professor Maurice Allais - a genius before his time - as are they allLEON RAOUL HATEM DISCOVERIES. Beyond Quantum Physics, the birth of an atom.

[ewizard]

I got a bit curious about the missing UL info. I found it on Terawatt's web site but nothing on UL.com. However in trying ever increasingly general searches on UL I found nothing. I even just did a search for items by General Electric and got a 'nothing found'. GE should have thousands of if not millions of items that should show up in a search there. I think the UL search engine is asleep, kaput!

I saw info on Terawatt a year or two ago. It looked very good but I don't see anything new and no product yet apparently. I guess one could write them and ask what's up.

[Duncan]

!Thanks for that ewiz I've seen that now although I would have loved to see the detailed information that a Lab write up would have provided. Its a Lab report It does'nt "Look good" it has a conclusion and Proves!
Hell I seem to be covering the dedicated and serious life times work of some very clever and dedicated people in a poor fashion In order to describe what I only see dimly I hope they'll forgive me.. My method however is the same as these people I am a practical person, that means I see or imagine something happen and then try to fit the maths to it.
If I am imagining some thing that as yet has no maths then I am forced to look and sound silly! I really cant do anything else. I am going to return to the pendulum if no one has any objection. I left you with the strange picture of a pendulum with a revolving disk and a tiny rocket, not exactly how I picture it if the rocket were invisible and hidden inside the bob then Its closer.
Not lets consider this classic Double PendulumDirectory:Milkovic Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator - PESWikihttp://www.oldengine.org/members/die...terTS3/TS3.htm

[Duncan]

Leon Raoul HATEM -- magnet motor
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and poor as it may be my translation of the French re both drawings .. a French speaker doing a better job would be appreciated

Top drawing
At rest (a) the magnets of both the drive and the slave rotor will fall into balanced equilibration at a point of equal attraction.
When the driven rotor is turned (b) there must be a certain amount of slip between the drive and the slave, The tendency is for the slave to accelerate in an impossible attempt to come into synchronous lock with the drive.
Of course should the drive be accelerated to fast or the load be increased to fast beyond a certain point the synchronous link is lost.

Bottom drawing
Whilst it is difficult at first sight to deduce a mathematical foundation for this natural acceleration effect in the first instance. It is possible to make a direct comparison of magnetic forces by alternating the magnetic poles. At rest (a) the driven rotor and the slave are again in balanced equilibrium.
However when being driven and slippage occurs there is natural cogging and the tendency is to retard.

Note It is only possible "to compare"

[Roland]

F.M.CHALKALIS ENERGY MULTIPLIER - YouTube

[Duncan]

F.M.CHALKALIS ENERGY MULTIPLIER - YouTube

Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson - YouTubeWhat is a Fourier Series?New Free Energy by George Mitchell - YouTube you will see that when a smudge on the camera lines up with a vertical line of power the diffusion is horizontal.
As for shifting the subject of the Thread that really is a no no Roland, this Thread is dedicated to to Donald Duck .. by all means open another post I have absolutely no doubt that machine is viable and working , you can see it is for reasons I have described.

[Duncan]

Wind Blue Motor Hydro Permanent Magnet Alternator and this is typical of the motor .1/3 HP Motor Variable Speed Control Package FREE SHIP | eBayFree Energy Power Generatorhttp://www.water4gas.com/eBooks-DVDs/ you will see that $30 is the cost, of course I had to buy in order to catch sight ! I can tell you that all the information from the water4gas document is duplicated in Yannick's document and so if you can afford $9 buy yannick's offering it contains a lot more information. Yannick makes It very clear that he has spent a deal of time interviewing Leon, and has delivered the information to the other players in this game! Including George Mitchell.
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[Roland]

As for shifting the subject of the Thread that really is a no no Roland, this Thread is dedicated to to Donald Duck .. by all means open another post I have absolutely no doubt that machine is viable and working , you can see it is for reasons I have described.

We can disagree, but nothing i said was off subject. My point was they are all basically the same at there root.

[Duncan]

555 Timer/Oscillator Tutorial and when you have the gist of it any pulse of virtually any length can be made adjustable just as you wish.
I see that PJK also has a section dedicated to the 555 in his free energy book Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices - eBook Download meanwhile I'll go and try a more focused look at Mr Chakalis's machine

[MarkV]

yannicksonic is a con man

look at this :

yannicksonic's youtube magnetic gears overunity.

You know whats funny? Its that people believe in it before using the simplest tool to prove it which is "science" or "math".