Tesla's little box (Pierce Arrow)

[Jbignes5]

Old picture....

Check this out and tell me what you guys think. Anything look familiar in this photo?



Zoom in the image and tell me what you think....

[boguslaw]

Check this out and tell me what you guys think. Anything look familiar in this photo?



Zoom in the image and tell me what you think....

Tesla building TPU ?

[Jbignes5]

This is the box.

Look at his left arm. There is the box. If you look at the device he is working on it is a board with a coil (sudo magnet) with a ceramic insert and electrode thru the ceramic. This I believe is half an emitter that was built in a modual that he could slip into position in the box. I wish I could find a better hi-rez version to zoom into but I haven't found a better source for the picture yet.

[Slovenia]

Good Job

Look at his left arm. There is the box. If you look at the device he is working on it is a board with a coil (sudo magnet) with a ceramic insert and electrode thru the ceramic. This I believe is half an emitter that was built in a modual that he could slip into position in the box. I wish I could find a better hi-rez version to zoom into but I haven't found a better source for the picture yet.

That is one of the clearest Tesla pictures I have seen. Most of them are not that clear and when you enlarge them just once they become illegible. Thanks for sharing the photo.

[Jbignes5]

Here is another but the contrast is messed...

Better picture but not as good on the contrast.

[boguslaw]

Date of this photo would be important to find what is Tesla working on ...

[Jbignes5]

Date of this photo would be important to find what is Tesla working on ...

I would if I had the information. The only caption this had was that he was in his 60's. There is no real date and nothing but Tesla working in his lab. Use your own eyes. Thats what I do in cases like this. We know he is working on a module that apparently goes in the box to the lower left next to his arm. It also appears he put the module on another smaller square box to work on it. Looks like he is making connections to the coil that he uses to creat a field.
My best guess is a half magnetic quenched spark gap from the appearance of the module but I could be wrong.
Maybe someone else could help me id the photo and the items as well...?

[jibbguy]

Don't want to be a "downer" but in the old days, instruments & instrumentation nearly always used to come in very beautiful wooden boxes exactly like that one portrayed in the pic. And often the documentation for the instrument was stored in the lid as this appears to have.

So it could be something a lowly as a resistance Decade Box Or an old wire recorder (using wire instead of tape), or an early Brush pen chart recorder. Or a high-impedance, high precision VMM.

[Jbignes5]

you are correct.

I believe the box against the wall and above everthing else is exactly what you are talking about but the box I mention is the lower box that has maybe a silk interior. This silk interior was put in a box that was meant to show off the interiors components when viewed after and experiment.
So I agree that the various boxes on the smaller end were of the very boxes you describe. The only thing I see out of place is the lower left box. Which by the way almost match to the details of the report from his nephew. I don't see the holes for the rods but it could have been before this was done seeing that he is working on the internal module at that time. But then again it could have been just a component box like described by his nephew that had the tubes and rods in it.
I think my main focus is the device he is working on. It seems to fit my descriptions perfectly of any one side of the emitter assembly.

[amigo]

You guys have surely seen the coloured Tesla photos, right?

www.Magnetricity.com ...

[Jbignes5]

Wow

Nice pictures. Heh. I don't usually like colorized photo's I tend to stay with the black and whites for accuracy. Well I looks like I was way off on the picture but it did teach me that he used modules in the boxes he created.
Better news is my neo's are on the way.. I'll throw a link to show you what they are.

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These should allow me to pass the electrodes thru a ceramic insert. Although shielding the opposite pole might be easier with these. I'll have to see about that.

[boguslaw]

Then this photo is from 1920 or nearby.He started work on his black box device probably.

[Jbignes5]

Well...

Then this photo is from 1920 or nearby.He started work on his black box device probably.

Lets think about this. The car was a pierce arrow 1931 model. It was a luxury car from that day. So it probably was anywhere from 1931-1940. I will read the report from his nephew again and see if he mentions his uncles age. I remember that something was mentioned but I overlooked that.

Nope it clearly states that it was done in the summer of 1931. Tesla at the time would have been 75. And it clearly states that his nephew was 43 years younger, that would be at age 32.
Hope that helps.

Ok so on monday if everything goes well I'll have my mags to start testing the magnetic diodes. I'll start pouring over the patents again to see if the magnetic quenched sparkgap can be found again. Maybe I can find some reassurance that I am indeed on the right track from the patents.

[Jbignes5]

Bah wont let me edit my previous post.

Here is an exceprt from the Complete patents of Nikola Tesla..

The magnetic arc gap was capable of handling the large currents required by Tesla. In achieving powerful, sudden impulses of one polarity, these were the most durable. Horn shaped electrodes were positioned with a powerful permanent magnetic field. Placed at right angles to the arc itself, the currents, which suddenly formed in this magnetic space, were accelerated along the horns until they were extinguished. Rapidly extinguished!

Arcs were thus completely extinguished within a specified time incre*ment. Tesla configured the circuit parameters so as to prevent capacitor alternations from occurring through the arc space. Each arc discharge represented a pure unidirectional impulse of very great power. No "contaminating current reversals" were possible or permissible.

Reversals ... alternations ... would ruin the "shock broadcast". The effect was never observed when alternating currents were engaged. High voltage was supplied by a large dynamo. Tesla could speed or slow this dynamo with a hand operated rheostat. Power was applied in parallel across the capacitor. The magnetic arc was linked almost directly to one side of this capacitor, a long and thick copper strap connecting the magnetic arc and the far capacitor plate.

This simple asymmetric positioning of the magnetic arc discharger to one side of the dynamo supply produced pure unidirectional electropositive or electronegative impulses as desired. Tesla designed this very simple and pow*erfully effective automatic switching system for achieving ultra-rapid impulses of a single polarity. Capacitor values, arc distances, magnetic fields and dynamo voltages were all balanced and adjusted to yield a repetitive train of ultra-short singular impulses without "fly back" effects.

The system is not really well understood by engineers, the exceptional activities of the arc plasma introducing numerous additional features to the overall system. While the effects, which Tesla claimed, can be reproduced with electron tube impulse circuitry, these produce decidedly inferior effects. The overall power of the basic arc discharge is difficult to equal. Tesla even*tually enclosed the magnetic arc, immersing the gap space in mineral oil. This blocked premature arcing, while very greatly increasing the system out*put.

Most imagine that the Tesla impulse system is merely a "very high fre*quency alternator". This is a completely erroneous notion, resulting in ef*fects, which can never equal those to which Tesla referred. The magnetic discharge device was a true stroke of genius. It rapidly extinguishes capaci*tor charge in a single disruptive blast. This rapid current rise and decline formed an impulse of extraordinary power. Tesla called this form of automatic arc switching a "disruptive discharge" circuit, distinguishing it from numerous other kinds of arc discharge systems. It is very simply a means for interrupting a high voltage direct current without allowing any backward current alternations. When these conditions are satisfied, the Tesla Effect is then observed.

The asymmetrical positioning of the capacitor and the magnetic arc determines the polarity of the impulse train. If the magnetic arc device is placed near the positive charging side, then the strap is charged negative and the resultant current discharge is decidedly negative.

Tesla approached the testing of his more powerful systems with certain fear. Each step of the testing process was necessarily a dangerous one. But he discovered that when the discharges exceeded ten thousand per second, the painful shock effect was absent.

[Stealth]

If you want to discover what Tesla was working with, you only have to build and see for yourself, the Tesla coil. Most of his ideas and experiments mushroomed out from his coil discoveries. This one invention sparked his study into static electricity and aether. I think they are interlinked. Find out how one works and you will ultimately find the other. Lightning is the strongest force we know of, yet we can't, as of yet use it to our benefit. We have not yet built a machine to harness this free electrical power. Maybe Tesla did. He studied the bible and discovered how the ark of the covenant built and stored power, so he used that as a blueprint for what he was searching for. Morey later discovered the same thing, but his machine was different from Tesla's, so there could be many different ways to capture this aether energy. I would say, build the Tesla coil first, as that seemed to be the start of his understanding.Good Luck. Stealth