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  • #31
    sucahyo, i am more concerned of the POSITIVE IONS.
    Think about a Bedini Fan.....

    We need negative Ions to live

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
      sucahyo, i am more concerned of the POSITIVE IONS.
      Think about a Bedini Fan.....

      We need negative Ions to live
      Is that really the same one as in Bedini?

      Do you have a good reference for this positive ion?

      Since the exact spesific what positive ion mean can be different in different literature.

      Garry Vassilatos positive ion is not the one that cause cancer. It is the virus. While negative ion impulse can kill cancer, virus do not become active because of positive ion. It is because of rare gas / radioactive rays. Same device that kill cancer can produce both postive and negative.

      In odyle, we need both. I am now more concerned with od-positive. While all the device around us produce more od-positive, there are ways to produce od-negative.

      The symptoms bellow is similar to people experiencing too much od-positive.
      Schematics
      There is strong evidence that these currents may cause cancers, but this report is concerned with reducing the symptoms that humans can directly observe in themselves, such as poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.
      People need od-positive to gain power to work such like the example of orgone pendant. And od-positive also used to cure cancer just like the case of orgone accumulator.
      Last edited by sucahyo; 04-29-2010, 07:10 AM.

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      • #33
        Thanks for the schematics Ash, been looking for some

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        • #34
          Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
          Is that really the same one as in Bedini?

          Do you have a good reference for this positive ion?

          Since the exact spesific what positive ion mean can be different in different literature.

          Garry Vassilatos positive ion is not the one that cause cancer. It is the virus. While negative ion impulse can kill cancer, virus do not become active because of positive ion. It is because of rare gas / radioactive rays. Same device that kill cancer can produce both postive and negative.

          In odyle, we need both. I am now more concerned with od-positive. While all the device around us produce more od-positive, there are ways to produce od-negative.

          The symptoms bellow is similar to people experiencing too much od-positive.
          Schematics


          People need od-positive to gain power to work such like the example of orgone pendant. And od-positive also used to cure cancer just like the case of orgone accumulator.
          Hi sucahyo, yes look up negative ions IN THE AIR,
          Scientific research about negative ions
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          • #35
            Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
            Hi sucahyo, yes look up negative ions IN THE AIR,
            Scientific research about negative ions
            i think electricity can produce positive ions also. Negative ion generators are becoming popular, the guy i just spoke to thinks that the positive ions are produced from electricity, i am looking into this now and will post some more references ASAP.

            Check this out, there is even dirty electricity on switches
            DEMAND SWITCHES …automatic removal of disturbing mains fields
            http://www.equilibrauk.com/demand.shtml
            I see. thanks. Forgot about that. mood enhancing negative ion.

            My opinion is slightly different now. I don't see negative as the only one necessary. Without positive ion we wouldn't feel motivated since all we want to do is sleep.

            I see negative ion effect is just like the mood lifting event before storm or near waterfall. Water drop produce electricity, big cloud produce electricity. I think it is more like live air instead of negatively ionize air. I think negative ion vs positive ion as live air vs stagnan air.

            I still see it do not relate to critical illness. Maybe like the difference between dead water and live water, only now is air.


            Remember the discussion about 50Hz is the most lethal frequency for human according to Tesla? I think even 50Hz is also dangerous for health, not just High frequency RF. I guess anything with coil should be considered dangerous.

            I made a simple AV plug made from 1N4007 and diode. The LED light up when I test it on metal of my appliances, on some of the bolt near the electricity plug too....


            Demand switches look interesting. However, if the installer put it wrong it would be no use because the live wire would still be transmitting electricity.

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            • #36
              Hello my friend!,. I guess its all about natures balance, thing is i think WE (through bad technology) produce more positive ions (even through electricity) than negative ones can regenerate through nature.
              We certifiably produce more EMR, Wifi and dirty electricity than normal nature would like.

              I am working on an AIO OPEN SOURCE, filter, power saver and negative ion generator . I have the filter and power factor one down, just need a good negative ion generator THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE OZONE...

              Ash

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              • #37
                Effects of Negative Ions / Negative ion Studies

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                  I am working on an AIO OPEN SOURCE, filter, power saver and negative ion generator . I have the filter and power factor one down, just need a good negative ion generator THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE OZONE...
                  Nice . Is that possible?

                  The ionization thread need the opposite .

                  Thanks for the reference . see sharp plasma cluster too. It run on plasma cluster mode when needed, otherwise it run on ionizer mode.

                  I don't know if its ok to reverse engineer it. The unit it self is small...

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                  • #39
                    If document or video about dirty electricity is in the making, I hope it would also contain comment from:
                    - John Bedini, that live around big device utilizing transient voltage and with experience trying to replicate Royal Rife high frequency healing device.
                    - Peter Lindemann, that write some article about the benefit of special electronic device for health, either by direct wiring to the body or by radiation.

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                    • #40
                      Last edited by ashtweth; 06-09-2010, 08:15 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                        If document or video about dirty electricity is in the making, I hope it would also contain comment from:
                        - John Bedini, that live around big device utilizing transient voltage and with experience trying to replicate Royal Rife high frequency healing device.
                        - Peter Lindemann, that write some article about the benefit of special electronic device for health, either by direct wiring to the body or by radiation.
                        You need to put bio feedback meters to prove this. Magna and Donner use biofeedback METERING its the real tell tale, HOW DOES YOUR BODY READ? We are electromagnetic entities, every thing electromagnetically can be shown to interface with us internally through biofeedback metering. THE GS FILTERS SHOULD BE MANDATORY TO SHOW US WHATS GOING ON

                        Ash

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                        • #42
                          I wonder how home-made filters perform, i am looking to build some soon for my home.
                          Ash, you have access to a device that can measure this dirty electricity ?

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                          • #43
                            Hi digitz yes we did and we used them in the filming(editing the video in next 2 weeks), above in my post Donner fisher letter she talks about them

                            I learn more each day on this issue and the STETZERiZER meter and filters. Normally an electrical engineer uses a $6500 fluke scope meter to measure dirty electricity and has to interpret a graph. In using the STETZERiZER meter which retails for $160 you simply insert it into the electrical socket in your home or workplace and it gives you a number which should not be over 30. This technology is truly incredible and makes it very easy for the public to measure dirty electricity levels in their personal environments. Installing enough filters at $50 each removes the dirty electricity from the building sending it back to the grid, also creating a barrier around your home and stopping the dirty electricity that is being supplied to us from coming into our homes.

                            Here is the meter we used
                            Reduce dirty electricity and electrical pollution in your home or workplace with STETZERiZER® Filters and Microsurge Meters. Trusted power quality solutions since 1974.


                            Guess what the safe level is? 30 -50 GS units.
                            GUESS WHAT OUR HOUSE HAD?
                            600-700 UNITS!
                            Last edited by ashtweth; 06-10-2010, 01:58 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                              You need to put bio feedback meters to prove this. Magna and Donner use biofeedback METERING its the real tell tale, HOW DOES YOUR BODY READ? We are electromagnetic entities, every thing electromagnetically can be shown to interface with us internally through biofeedback metering. THE GS FILTERS SHOULD BE MANDATORY TO SHOW US WHATS GOING ON

                              Ash
                              I don't have one. If you have time, see if your GEET, your rotoverter, your Bedini SSG, your Imhotep Fan SSG, or your radiant charger produce dangerous reading.

                              I have strong radiant charger (about 40 times more powerfull than Imhotep fan charger) in less than a meter in front of me running for 5 hours a day, 6 days a week for about half year now. What disease should I expect?
                              Last edited by sucahyo; 06-10-2010, 04:39 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by digitz View Post
                                I wonder how home-made filters perform, i am looking to build some soon for my home.
                                Ash, you have access to a device that can measure this dirty electricity ?
                                Dig, try this , its a preview of material coming out in the production, we did this for the save energy guy Matt


                                @sucahyo the alignments are listed on the web sites i posted my friend.

                                Ash

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