Discussion re: the physics behind negative energy systems with radiant spikes

[Inquorate]

If

and succession of rapid make break connections of the coil..

Lots of spikes?

Need to experiment

[Guest]

missed

I think you may have missed the point.

The breaking of the primary charge field allows the domains to relax, giving the spike, Tesla described rotating magnetic fields, I contest that this is happening WITHIN THE WIRE, providing the spike we see. This is a result of partial spin of the domains.

Now, how about utilising the magnetic field correctly, to produce a full circle spin of the domains, not just a partial, as is presently being done around the planet.

Then, you would have, not electricity, AC but magnetricity, DC, which is then pulsed in tune with the load, to do work.

The natural form of power, derived from the singularity at the center of the magnetic null zone.... the zero point. Un-quenchable in it's provision of the field, and so, unlimited in the amount of power which can be drawn from it, before the magnetic field collapses, unlike when the flux lines are cut, due to Lenz's law is it? And hysterisis or something or other...

Daniel.

[Guest]

coil

Also, with daylight, I found my neon globe.

The secondary coil will fire it in only one configuration, so the energy derived from the core is dependant on the spin direction of the windings, in combination with the form of charge within the battery.

I have not wound a second coil in the opposite direction to see if I can swap polarity on the primary. I think this would be a waste of time, as I do not have a battery charged with these spikes at this time, so an oppositely wound coil will not work. I am concentrating on constructing a device to provide the complete energy field.

The globe will fire when the open terminal is held to either pole of the battery. This shows the battery is charged with a partial field, while the energy coming from the core is a whole field, or at least more complete than that which is in the battery.

There is no need for a magnetic field to first be present on the end of the core for the globe to light with one wire.

Daniel.

[Inquorate]

A thousand words

I'd love to see a sketch of what you are doing.

[Guest]

words

Unfortunately, if I were to draw the idea, that is where the thought exercise would stall. The idea would then be analised with conventional thinking, and dismissed out of hand, as being not possible.

So, in order for you to come to the conclusions that I have, it is a surer way to help you see for yourself, using words, that describe the process, rather than allowing the final process to be seen.

Although we use microwaves every day, or mobile phones, or weld steel, or even hammer nails, how many of us actually know what is going on with those processes.

For example, why does the moon appear to be brighter during the day now than in the past, even though there is now less direct light hitting our oceans due to global dimming caused by atmospheric particulates?

Or, how does the air fuel ratio of the internal combustion engine really work?

Or, if you were to drop a strong magnet down a non magnetic pipe, why does it fall slowly, seemingly floating to the end of the pipe?

There are a multitude of simple things, right before our eyes, that we are observing everyday, and yet, there is no attempt to dissect and analyse any changes that occur to discern the truth of the mechanisms involved, so we may improve upon the model if possible.

Therefore, I will not be doing any drawings, 'cause I don't draw to well, and it will give away my level of education. It is up to everyone here to gain for themselves, the knowledge that I speak of, and listen, think and apply their intellect to try to solve the enigma of which I speak.

Still there has been no answer to the question of why it is that one has to cut the lines of force in order to engender energy in the wire of a coil, even though there is clearly energy in the coil from a collapsing magnetic field applied at right angles to the field.

Let there be some discussion. I have left you a message on Skype, perhaps we could talk person to person?

Daniel.

[bboj]

Are You talking about something simmilar to Teslas transmision of electric pover from generator to motor, when a motor after a certain period of time catches the rotating magnetic field and works on self induction only? We don't cut the lines in that case if I am not mistaken.
And if I understand, you propose to go with the flow of lines of force, which can be, if there is no opposition to the movment amplified.

[Bob Smith]

A couple of quick reflections on comments from Daniel:

Also, I would like to add, the atom is simply a small coil, and it's charges can be manipulated into this self resonance mode. Actually it is this self resonance that gives matter it's form.

I believe it was the increasing of this resonance speed that was discussed at the turn of the 19th century, by science and academia, in response to Tesla's work and observations, which led to the public's purposeful miss-direction and deception by the controlling bodies to the belief that the speed of the entire body was being conjectured.

I refer to the arguments that "high speed" travel in trains and cars would cause the human being to expire, and explode.

This is not what was being referred to, it was the energy levels of the atom that Tesla was expounding, and the benefits that this would bring to the human condition, and all life on earth, by capturing and magnifying the life force, and transmitting it into the air, after freely re-gauging it from the void.

The work of John Searl and the Searl Effect comes to mind here. Prof. Searl in one of his videos reports having set up a small prototype of his generator in the downstairs of a family home. Persons living in the house reported feeling a sense of well-being due to the presence of his generator. What are commonly referred to as Tesla lamps also come to mind here. Different technology, but perhaps the same basic principle - "capturing and magnifying life force and transmitting it...after freely re-gauging it from the void."
It is reported that Tesla would spend hours under his lamps, and awake refreshed, and if I remember correctly, he would even pass days without needing to sleep because of it.

More to say but later...

[lamare]

Let's look a bit deeper into resonating coils. As I stated before, Stifflers circuit resonates a coil at a multiple of its natural ground resonance frequency. Since the coil windings have a parasite capacitance towards one another, part of the electric energy, which is a wave, travels across these capacitances.

It just struck me that it is quite common to resonate coils at multiples of their natural ground resoance frequency and you can even make antenna's that have gain that way:

Easy Homemade 2.4 Ghz Omni Antenna - Gumph

In order to get about 6db gain from the antenna, it would need 8 sectors

How can a "passive component" provide any gain, especially in transmission mode, unless it indeed sucks energy from the electric field it creates itself?

[sucahyo]

How can a "passive component" provide any gain, especially in transmission mode, unless it indeed sucks energy from the electric field it creates itself?

I thought what antenna provides is gain from without antenna?

+6db compared to no antenna? +6db because the antenna match the intended resonant wave length it should receive?

[Slovenia]

Great Stuff!!

Wow Lamare,

This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing this with us!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Looks like I made a little error. The Wimshurst produces high voltages, high potential, but that's not the same as an electric field.

Anyway, this story brings up an interesting question:

Where do all our electrons go, when we charge a capacitor the normal way?

The only thing I can come up with, is that they are wasted. Leaking from one plate to the other, without doing any good. If that is the case, then the potential applied to a capacitor is what charges it for 99.999%, because that is what polarizes the dielectricum, while all the current we ram in is being turned into heat or something else we don't need.

So, the smart thing to do, is to charge a capacitor with high voltage pulses...

Trough a diode...

Do I hear anyone say schoolgirl??

spikes???

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Daniel,

Thanks for the thread!! You have some very interesting ideas too.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi. Thanks for the interest.

I hope you can understand this.

Someone posted a drawing they did on a tram of the vectors of energy on the wire, in a conventional manner, over in the T / S thread and the wicki page shows how to generate that energy.

The point is, that this is describing conventional forces, and effects, and as such, will not explain the longitudinal wave generation, nor it's form. (I think).

Tesla showed us there was another way to generate a longitudinal field, (which presently occurs as a transient effect due to the phase shifting of the atomic spin of the domains, as the current, and it's magnetic component, leaves a wire) that made / makes circuits "come alive".

Inquorate said, "If the coil is making longitudinal waves minus the magnetic field, then essentially the longitudinal waves are a series of dipoles.
This would allow for gain from the virtual particles of the zero point energy field during transmission through space."

This is right, and remember, most of matter is empty space, so in the very wire itself, this gain occurs a priori.

Now, if the magnetic dipoles were in the wire, and looked at from the end of the wire, not the top, you begin to get the picture. Imagine a wire, so small in diameter that it can hold only one dipole intact at it's termination at one time. Looking from above the wire, one would see a static charge point, changing in polarity at the frequency of the generation field. However, if one were to look at the end of the wire, one would see a dipole, spinning on it's center, either CW or CCW at a speed determined by the frequency of the generator.

Now, that dipole is right in front of another, ad infinitum, right back to the end of the wire at the other end, and if that wire terminates at the point of singularity within a magnetic field, and a magnetic current is drawn from that wire, (or "longitudinal energy), then the singularity will replace the charge dissipated from the wire, for free.....as there is nowhere in the universe that is empty of energy.

So, fill the dipoles of the wire with momentum above their ground state, aligned at right angles to the skin of the wire, (Tesla's 90 degrees) and allow them to fill a load such as a coil, which is attached to a common core with a second coil of wire, and pulse the energised wire, by placing more energy into it than it can hold statically, using a condensor of the correct configuration, (or a resonant cavity!!!! ), without destroying or lessening the charge on the primary wire, and the re-gauging will be done without effecting the singualarities' influence at the beginning point of the wire.

The only input energy required will be the energy to fill the wire with the beginning potential, and the wire can be as long as is needed, without diminishing the singularity in the least.

The diagrams and loads of Tesla stuff can be found at Nikola Tesla Writings

The picture oscillator5.gif shows Tesla's device, and upon dissection, one can see the method of his thinking. There are also some newspaper reports here describing his device, which give the answer.

The dipole in the wire, longitudinally, is spun, not laterally, as is done now, and is why no-one can get a darn thing to work.......

The very alternators charging the batteries in the first instance, are configuring the atomic motion 90 degrees out. This is why all these fields and their effects are not in tune with nature. The chamicals used cause entropy, and instill in the systems the same forces leading to electrolysis and the breaking down of the atoms they are projected onto, just as Leedskalnin describes, and the physics shows. There is another field geometry. It's description has been layed out by people like Eric Dollard.

If one were to take an empty battery, of the correct configuration, and fill it with, oh, I don't know, sea water?, one would find there would likely be one wire transmission, and a non-discharging potential. Didn't someone do that already, named Volta? Or do I have that story wrong, (which is quite possible).

Anyway, I have figured out how to do this, if anyone is interested, and can show me they can understand it. The answer has been right before our eyes for as long as magnets have been used to generate electricity, and the very first internal combustion engines were ignited using this technology, and led to the idea of cars, bikes, traction engines, etc. being "alive" with a personality of their own, (I believe).

Let me know, anyway. It sure would be good to see a whole heap of people grab this technology, and place it into the psyche of the human condition, quickly and selflessly, as I can not do it on my own.

Daniel.

[Slovenia]

Good Stuff!!

Daniel,

This is good stuff. Please keep it coming.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi Bob, yes that is exactly what I was refering to. If you look into the earliest design of magneto, on the net, (that I could find), you will see Andre Beaudeville's circular magneto. It is designed to operate without a condensor, using a raised potential on the engine itself as the coupling device.

Now, what do the pistons do if not provide a resonant cavity?

Also, Henry Ford's work I have not tried to look into, as I would think it has all been corrupted. However, I will try.

Joe X speaks of splitting the NEGATIVE, not the positive, to work his magic. This is the line of inquiry which led me to the revelation that power generated at 90 degrees to the magnetic flux lines is what Tesla was speaking about. this is also what Leedskalnin did, and Joe X etc...

Are you getting a picture in your mind of the idea yet?

Daniel.

[Slovenia]

Sketch

Daniel,

I too would like to see a sketch. It would help a great deal. Thanks!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Unfortunately, if I were to draw the idea, that is where the thought exercise would stall. The idea would then be analised with conventional thinking, and dismissed out of hand, as being not possible.

So, in order for you to come to the conclusions that I have, it is a surer way to help you see for yourself, using words, that describe the process, rather than allowing the final process to be seen.

Although we use microwaves every day, or mobile phones, or weld steel, or even hammer nails, how many of us actually know what is going on with those processes.

For example, why does the moon appear to be brighter during the day now than in the past, even though there is now less direct light hitting our oceans due to global dimming caused by atmospheric particulates?

Or, how does the air fuel ratio of the internal combustion engine really work?

Or, if you were to drop a strong magnet down a non magnetic pipe, why does it fall slowly, seemingly floating to the end of the pipe?

There are a multitude of simple things, right before our eyes, that we are observing everyday, and yet, there is no attempt to dissect and analyse any changes that occur to discern the truth of the mechanisms involved, so we may improve upon the model if possible.

Therefore, I will not be doing any drawings, 'cause I don't draw to well, and it will give away my level of education. It is up to everyone here to gain for themselves, the knowledge that I speak of, and listen, think and apply their intellect to try to solve the enigma of which I speak.

Still there has been no answer to the question of why it is that one has to cut the lines of force in order to engender energy in the wire of a coil, even though there is clearly energy in the coil from a collapsing magnetic field applied at right angles to the field.

Let there be some discussion. I have left you a message on Skype, perhaps we could talk person to person?

Daniel.

[Slovenia]

Very Sharp Fellow

Inquarate,

You're a very sharp fellow indeed. I love to read your posts.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I'd love to see a sketch of what you are doing.