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  • Xenomorph
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    Originally posted by baroutologos View Post
    In the same diagram i used the "Don's way" as i unerstood it from the high quality pics of his device, then no resonance in any way. w
    From my little experience in the field, the plain NST connected to a coil (no cap), that is inductively coupled to another coil and it is feeding a big cap that is in series with a heavy duty isolated transformer which is shunt by a suitable resistor etc is plain BS.
    Last edited by Xenomorph; 03-16-2010, 12:05 AM.

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  • baroutologos
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    Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
    @baroutologos: Good attitude, honestly.

    You DO actively experiment, others talk.
    Would it be possible for you to draw an accurate COMPLETE circuit diagram of your whole current set-up, so it is easier to evaluate the processes and possibly give you improvement tips?
    Your previous posted diagrams were hard to understand and only showed parts of the circuit unfortunately.
    Also, what equipment do you use to measure the secondary frequency/resonance?
    Keep it up.
    Ok, because i want my experiments to convey the spirit of what i have done and to stimulate others towards similar or just other directions i clarify:


    * The http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post87660 is just self explaining.

    * The http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post88239 is an execution of the http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post82772 diagram 3. Actually this yeild the best results that are poor contrasting to any serious resonance.

    In the same diagram i used the "Don's way" as i unerstood it from the high quality pics of his device, then no resonance in any way. http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...h-diagram2.jpg

    All the other figures were tried with less good results (at least preliminary) than those attained with figure's 3.
    Note all those figure diagrams are Tesla's from Colorado Springs notes as ways for increasing the Q of the primary circuit (not secondary) and making a smoother resonance.

    My personal conclusion is that good resonance lies to high-self induction-low resistance-low capacitance resonance.
    That wil be all for now
    Last edited by baroutologos; 03-15-2010, 02:13 PM.

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  • baroutologos
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    First of all, i do not care at correcting the frequency at the moment since i possess HV HF diodes and can smooth the current.

    (by the way a simple demonstration of what you saying will be nice)

    I am concern about getting huge resonance with Don's Smiths suggested guidelines. I cannot but i leave a window open due to potential personal incompetence. BTW Big resonance (always in comparison to energy input) seems to lie in large inductunce-little resistance-little capacitance. (hence large Tesla coils)

    From my little experience in the field, the plain NST connected to a coil (no cap), that is inductively coupled to another coil and it is feeding a big cap that is in series with a heavy duty isolated transformer which is shunt by a suitable resistor etc is plain BS.

    Cannot work for obvious reasons. Its like believing to Santa Clause

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  • ovidonster
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    Originally posted by baroutologos View Post
    Ok, i managed to make a small experiment.

    I took a standard 220/30 volts trasformer (windings are isolated) and at input side i connected a resistor in parallel. Transformer specs is
    * primary winding 16 ohms resistance, 1.692 H
    * secondary below 1 ohm, 27.6 mH

    1st try was to connect a 18KOhm resistor and measure output frequency.
    2nd try 1Mohm resistor.

    Even though are blind resistor values, no deviation in output frequency was measured by my DMM.
    ...

    So, how the f... Don Smith claims he "corrects" the frequency by the application of the transformer's L a parallel R?

    Anyone having the chart and willing to do some more detailed measurments have a signal generator?

    Baroutologos
    @ Baroutologos:
    with above experiment of yours you will never change the frequency !!!
    Don Smith is able to correct the frequency because it is not fixed, the Neon Sign Transformer will change it's free running 18Khz according to load.
    Any coil has intrinsic capacity and will act differently (building up magnetic field around itself) if you shunt it's terminals with a resistor comparable in value with intrinsic resistance of that coil, just think about the Q factor.

    Peace.

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  • peper10
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    question

    Do somebody know what is the frequency of a lowglow pro serie
    transformer?
    I tried to find on internet and nothing came up..
    Thanks

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  • Xenomorph
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    @baroutologos: Good attitude, honestly.

    You DO actively experiment, others talk.
    Would it be possible for you to draw an accurate COMPLETE circuit diagram of your whole current set-up, so it is easier to evaluate the processes and possibly give you improvement tips?
    Your previous posted diagrams were hard to understand and only showed parts of the circuit unfortunately.
    Also, what equipment do you use to measure the secondary frequency/resonance?
    Keep it up.
    Last edited by Xenomorph; 03-11-2010, 03:03 PM.

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  • baroutologos
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    Originally posted by peper10 View Post
    I just saw that in all of the vid the L2 capacitor is just half the microfarad of the L1...
    I gest that it help the circuit to resonnate...
    Because talking is always easy, i challenge thee, to resonate a Don's smith secondary of say 10-20uh with a cap of 47nf at Kilovolt range with a small NST's output...

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  • Xenomorph
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    Originally posted by h2ocommuter View Post
    Xeno,
    I love this guys projects,
    I am sure there are insites with translations.

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  • h2ocommuter
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    Xeno,
    I love this guys projects,
    I am sure there are insites with translations.

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  • Xenomorph
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    hmm..power factor correction ?
    Don Smith Free Energy - Video
    see at the end the presentation.
    One plate of capacitor is stroked with spark from Tesla coil, the other plate drain electrons from ambient source.
    it is only possible when spark is positive unidirectional. Without power correction energy is oscillating back and forth in AC transformer.But here energy must go only forward and impulses after rectification must combine creating much higher one which acts like in presentation. The center tap is connected to the source of ambient electrons and big oil capacitors are recharged in a millisecond or less.
    Ground path: YouTube - Samara Tesla

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  • peper10
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    Half the capacitive!!!!

    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Does capacitor at L2 tell you something ?
    I just saw that in all of the vid the L2 capacitor is just half the microfarad of the L1...

    I gest that it help the circuit to resonnate...

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  • boguslaw
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    hmm..power factor correction ?
    Don Smith Free Energy - Video
    see at the end the presentation.
    One plate of capacitor is stroked with spark from Tesla coil, the other plate drain electrons from ambient source.
    it is only possible when spark is positive unidirectional. Without power correction energy is oscillating back and forth in AC transformer.But here energy must go only forward and impulses after rectification must combine creating much higher one which acts like in presentation. The center tap is connected to the source of ambient electrons and big oil capacitors are recharged in a millisecond or less.

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  • deggers
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Does capacitor at L2 tell you something ?
    Not just yet, but somehow I'm thinking that you may have more to share???

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  • baroutologos
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    i resumed experimenting with the tesla suggested methods for enhanced resonance. Saved from setups details, i saw myslef how hard is to get any considerable resonance effect using large capacitance and isignifficant inductunce.

    At best a hundred volts or so managed to have my 250nf caps across a 5uh Don Smith like coil at an expense of almost 40 watts input. A loop of wire with a bulb attached could not be brought to incadescence.

    Several things tried and i ran out of ideas. I tend to think this is not the way to go...
    Attached Files

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  • baroutologos
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    @Bogus,

    In that particular arrangement, it nearly tell me nothing.

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