Donald L Smith

[boguslaw]

I think you would agree with me if I say that Lenz law is one of our enemies. It is here whenever you have magnetic field connected with electric field.
All you need is something which is separate from power source - either pure magnetic or pure electric.Well.... To have either one of them you need something important - a waveguide,a field , because you cannot create sound-like longitudinal wave without a medium (which is opposite to EM waves propagating in vacuum). You have to have ionic environment or magnetic field.

[dragon]

meters...

I need to jump in here. I took Don's protocol and am putting it to practice.
I lookd and looked and found an electrostatic voltmeter I could afford and one that looked reasonably modern. I tried to use it and learned I diddn't know anything about this type of testing, or equipment.
I called the manufacturer and had a nice discussion about what is there the meter is picking up. + and or - was the short answer. I got myself a gauss meter and Just trying to go by what looks like a protocol operation by DS.

I am going to see what Don was seeing !D

h2ocommuter

Which electrostatic meter did you purchase? I purchased a HV probe which works fine with low frequency or measuring static DC charges but when exposed to frequencies above 60hz it's pretty much useless. Does it handle frequency well? I already have a gauss meter but it also doesn't seem to like HF so the readings I'm getting aren't what I would call reliable.

If I remember correctly you were working on DS's globe unit... is this correct? I haven't put any of don's units together yet but have been experimenting with some of his theories - as well as others. Some of what he says makes sense, some simply don't. But that is a part of the learning process I suppose.
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[sebosfato]

sebosfato,

do you have all the answers? Do you know for sure how to make these devices? If yes, then please do tell us. I'm sure all of us will appreciate it.

Personally, I'm a bit tired of these I-know-it-all-but-you-need-to-do-your-own-research kind of guys...

ABC

yes abc i have the answer but people want to be helped and don't care for helping at all! After several months looking for investors and or help from also those who says that are interested and also those many who i called friends! I got nothing but more debt and debt and debt in my research. So now i know the secret of 1000 millions dollars and i can't just give it away. Is quite easy! However is a secret! I just gave you A clue, if you are the one, maybe you are going to find out!

I don't believe in open source for free energy devices anymore as they are too expensive to make at home once a time, and this way there is no chance for technology advance, without mass production would not even be economically viable. And as almost everything i read in internet about free energy was misleading information, i don't fell that anyone helped me in any way. I got only about 10 donations from people i never meet those i need to say thanks.

If you think about if you just release the info in internet you will not be able anymore to sell it because a big company will rob you business.

Have you ask yourself if you find out how it works what is your responsibility? Did you ever thought there are industrial and intellectual proprieties to respect, if you don't respect it they (aka big companies) came and create a cause against you with the experts lawyers that will put you and your ideas in jail!!! if you try to release it, is the same, they claim they had the technology patented first and before you put it into the market you have a cause against you and believe you will be already in jail!!!

The day will come!

[baroutologos]

Theories are nice. Experimentation and proof needed, or almost everything we say are fairy tales for an easy tight sleep.

Baroutologos

[h2ocommuter]

Geting the right test equipment

Thanks boguslaw,
indeed I have read many times at various places about the counter-spiraling of pos & neg currents.
If we just had instruments to measure both types of currents, everything would become clear, I'm sure.

altair

I need to jump in here. I took Don's protocol and am putting it to practice.
I lookd and looked and found an electrostatic voltmeter I could afford and one that looked reasonably modern. I tried to use it and learned I diddn't know anything about this type of testing, or equipment.
I called the manufacturer and had a nice discussion about what is there the meter is picking up. + and or - was the short answer. I got myself a gauss meter and Just trying to go by what looks like a protocol operation by DS.

I am going to see what Don was seeing !D

h2ocommuter

[ABCStore]

sebosfato,

do you have all the answers? Do you know for sure how to make these devices? If yes, then please do tell us. I'm sure all of us will appreciate it.

Personally, I'm a bit tired of these I-know-it-all-but-you-need-to-do-your-own-research kind of guys...

ABC

[sebosfato]

believe me free energy does exist but what you just talked about is 100% non related to the solution! study a lot and you may find.

Make the right questions to find the right answers, is very easy to say we navigate in a sea of energy but is very much superficial to just repeat this without really understanding where it comes from.

You can't create a dipole, a dipole exists already and you can use its force to create or to use energy witch was not original from your electrical source.

And it don't have nothing to do with disturbing energy, low mass electrons and nothing about it...

[bobo36us]

Disturb Ambient and free some Electrons

Disturb ambient and free some electrons.

Seems to be the main theme behind many free
energy systems. Most of them are low power,
usually involving a spinning wheel with magnets
that usually barely recover enough energy to
self run.

Takes a while to understand and agree with based
on conventional teachings, but I get it now.
Create a dipole, disturb ambient, get some free energy.

We are all swimming in a sea of energy!!!!!!

Now, apparently to get substantial current, we need to
separate the electrons into stronger and weaker electrons.
(or whatever you choose to call them.....right and left,
positive and negative, up or down, etc)

How to do this??????????

The answer to that is probably what most successful free energy
inventors have figured out, and what I hope to find.

In the meantime, here is some info that might give some of you
some insight: Electron split into 2 new quantum particles : science

As with all open forums, there are different ideas, and difference
of opinions there, but hopefully it will get you to thinking.

Bobo

[sebosfato]

For you to find over unity is very difficult, 1, because you don't understand where the energy can come from, and 2, you do not even understand the losses you have to override to be able to extract energy from somewhere... happy new year and good luck

[boguslaw]

If Ed Leedscalnin was right then for each coil in circuit placement is important.
Because each potential flow against each other at every REAL close of circuit or open , there is a slight moment (a fraction of microsecond probably) n when only one potential is saturating coil.Split it in that moment opening circuit again and released magnetic field would be different that induction one.
Etheric force.Once again , it is only a theory but as I know Tesla many times stated that his transmitter must be considered with concordance with Earth properties.Etheric force is only possible as strange magnetic waves due to existence of magnetosphere. EMP

[boguslaw]

Resonance is a way to make Don Smith device work, but there is probably one more requirement.
You can't make it work with normal induction, you have to produce radiant electricity.The key element in Don Smith device is primary capacitor, spark gap device and orientation of both against neon transformer.
Follow Edison experiment.If you are able to produce etheric force you are able to make Smith device work.

[Altair]

Thanks boguslaw,
indeed I have read many times at various places about the counter-spiraling of pos & neg currents.
If we just had instruments to measure both types of currents, everything would become clear, I'm sure.

As I understand it, there has to be some kind of "breaker" in the circuit, usually a spark gap, that produces extremely rapid changes in the flow of current.
Is this what they refer to as "splitting the positive" ? I don't have any idea, and still don't grasp the concept of how to create an imbalance in the two spiraling flows.

But this is not the only thing we have to worry about, the transfer of energy in Smith's devices requires very precisely tuned components. This is not easy at all, as just a small change in ambient temperature will detune a resonating circuit. I think the best way to keep one of those circuits alive would be to implement an active control of the circuit, that would automatically compensate for the detuning. Not an easy task.

altair

[boguslaw]

A lot of thinking ,actually 3 years of investigating free energy problems took me to the point where I'm quite sure both Ed Leedscalnin and Tom Bearden are right. Edwin Gray too.
This all touches the problem : what electricity really is ?
Electricity is energy flow due to voltage between two points, when voltage is difference of two potentials.This is known, however potential is not abstract definition IMHO - it is real observable electromagnetic-like flow.
Positive and negative magnetic current as Ed Leedscalnin described.
Around conductor is one part ,inside conductor second. There are two kinds of those - and to produce electricity in closed circuit you have to maintain production and replenish both swirling against each other in conductor.
How fast it is done it's quite no important,but it has to be done to power load continuously.
Like Tom Bearden said - electric dipole produce continuous flow of energy. The point is that it looks like EM radiation, but each part of dipole produce mirror kind of that radiation.So, positive produce positive potential, negative - negative. They flow with a speed of light against each other, producing magnetic field around conductor and electric field inside (which converts into current if conductor has free electrons).Voltage iz non-zero for a moment,but then it all balance and electricity flow diminish. You have to crank then generator shaft to make another dipole and another flow of electricity.

Now take one potential and split releasing part of it as scalar wave.If I'm correct the balance will be disturbed without power source depleting.Scalar waves produced for free.

[bobo36us]

Yahoo group on Radiant Energy

Just wanted to post this link to some of you that might
not have seen it before: radiant_energy : Radiant Energy Power Generation

Lots of good work going on there especially by a gentleman called Bruce,
who goes by the username nuenergy_scientist.

He's been working on Smith devices for a while, and seems to have a
really good grasp of the concepts and possibly even a successful replication.

His research dates back many years and he willingly shares of his time and
knowledge. I am sure that he could answer many questions you guys have.

Bobo

[Altair]

Hi Boguslaw,
you sound like you know the solution.
Could you please elaborate further.

Splitting the positive has been associated with Gray's work, but I never really understood what he meant.