Donald L Smith

[h2ocommuter]

hunt and peck for information...

Let me ask this question... to everyone,
When you are charging caps is it common that larger caps charge more quickly than smaller ones?
I am talking about 370 v @38 uf verses 200 v @220 uf and 50 v @1uf
for instance I can charge the larger ones to 100 v in about five seconds the next smaller takes a couple of min and the smallest one takes at least 10 min.
is this common with normal electricty applications.
Is there certain math that I could apply?
Just disreguard the insane questions I do realize normal caps are charged instantainiously, probably.
the reason I ask is with these results it would stand to reason that a very large 5.0kv 34 uf cap will charge very quickly. like split seconds...

Next question; What I would like to do is use a grounding trigger that will utilize the cap charge to discharge this quickly aquired electricty.
OK, can I use a 555 timer to build a grounding timmer switch?

Here are the cap sizes and the schematic I am using to charge the caps from the plasm globe.

does this circuit tell anyone how these caps are being charged?
This is as far as I could get in understanding the parametric oscillator.
Just a note, with out the LED's this circuit will not work.

Zane.

[dragon]

Thanks guys ! Got some on order.
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[deggers]

Hi guys, I was wire shopping today too. 8 AWG 735 strands $0.59 a foot.

Parts-Express.com:*Phoenix Gold PC908 8 AWG Power Cable 1 ft. Silver | pc908 8 gauge 8 guage amp wire car amp wire amplifier amp wire

Duane

[h2ocommuter]

Speaker wire.

This is the cable I bought. Knukonceptz product detail for KLEAR KABLE BLUE 10 GAUGE SPEAKER WIRE
One of the shieths is square and the other round.
When I split it by hand the square side was missing some of the protective coating. virtually unnoticable on the other shieth. I don't know if you could split it with a knife I usually fail at perfection whan I have to resort to this measure. I did not try.
I bought the 10 ga.

If you look at the other power cables and other assortments you'll see other choises.

Good luck


another choise,
Knukonceptz product detail for KARMA SS 8 GAUGE SPEAKER WIRE

[dragon]

Using the above information and incite I have figured out how to charge my caps.

I have taken both leads of my L-2 into a breadboard and two NTE 125 general purpose rectifiers. Through these are connected two LED's to ground.
Thse parts tell me that the spark gap is running and that each rectifier is in operation.
From the input side of the L-2 on the board, I connect the leads of the spark gap
funny how that works.. As allways, using the variable spark gap I have built.
This is the only thing have done to my circuit.
What is very interresting is, as the capacitors charge to the maximum the L-2can supply, the gauss reading diminishes all the way down to zero.
Again I am chasing the illusive rabit of magnetic multiplication of DS.

I have a continuous freq reading using this method and the voltage inside the caps can be reliably measured too.
Again as before When grounding the spark gap directly the gauss meter reads arround 100mG, when going through the circuit as discribed, the gauss reading starts arround 25 mG and reduces in value untill the L-2 cannot add any more value to the caps.

Working together has helped me and I apreciate it.

Zane

Glad it worked out for you. Sounds like you have some consistancy, which is nice for making measurements. Now on to the mysterious energy in excess of input....

You mentioned some time ago where you purchased your 500 strand speaker wire but I haven't been able to locate the post. Would you mind posting a link to that site again...? I have some "flat" 500 strand wire that I've been experimenting with in a semi related project. It works well but I'm limited on single layer turns because of it.

Interestingly enough, using the high stranded wire increases the "Q" considerably. Also, it increases the coils capacitance which can be helpful in certain circumstances - or hurtful depending on the design.

Thanks in advance for the link.... again.
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[h2ocommuter]

successfull cap charging

The thanks actually goes to Armagdn03, he's the one that guided me in the right direction to discovery. I found you could recreate the effect using diodes and/or LED's in a tank circuit. Just like an LCR but replace the "R" with diodes pointing toward each other. In the middle of the diodes send a signal in, when it's in resonance there will be 2 distinctive peaks of 2 frequencies. The diodes will act similar to a varactor because of the time it takes to recover.

Don's diode set up is most likely creating a similar effect. It would appear to me the cap(s) is simply to set the resonance of L1 matched to the NST.

I ran into this the other day while poking around on the web, http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/kapanadze.jpg , It appears to be a don smith device modified to operate a Tesla hairpin output of sorts. I thought it was interesting in it's simplicity... A translation would be nice for the details but most can be visually interpreted.

I found it quite interesting playing with the parametric oscillator, but it would appear that even with the build up and ring down the average energy put into it would be equal to that out of it. The attachement shows one version of it.

Using the above information and incite I have figured out how to charge my caps.

I have taken both leads of my L-2 into a breadboard and two NTE 125 general purpose rectifiers. Through these are connected two LED's to ground.
Thse parts tell me that the spark gap is running and that each rectifier is in operation.
From the input side of the L-2 on the board, I connect the leads of the spark gap
funny how that works.. As allways, using the variable spark gap I have built.
This is the only thing have done to my circuit.
What is very interresting is, as the capacitors charge to the maximum the L-2can supply, the gauss reading diminishes all the way down to zero.
Again I am chasing the illusive rabit of magnetic multiplication of DS.

I have a continuous freq reading using this method and the voltage inside the caps can be reliably measured too.
Again as before When grounding the spark gap directly the gauss meter reads arround 100mG, when going through the circuit as discribed, the gauss reading starts arround 25 mG and reduces in value untill the L-2 cannot add any more value to the caps.

Working together has helped me and I apreciate it.

Zane

[boguslaw]

It's simple as 2x2
Make a MOSFET circuit which driven by small current suddenly damage MOSFET of even BURN it. You will have stage 1 - anomaly.
The proceed ....

[baroutologos]

My way to go is the following.

I will stick to Tesla's circuits for achieving great resonance, still i try to tap it.
IMO this thread is not about Don Smith alone because he is not the most reliable person...

Too many technologies are based upon the Tesla resonance concepts that claim free energy. Namely, Kapanadze, rotoverter, Meyel, Dr. Stifller's sec and everything possessing LC circuits.

[mlurye]

@amigo/baroutologos,
I'm not sure which way you are planning to go now.

@All
I'm planning to use Don's device as conceptual design and do whatever I can to make it work.

And now I'm back to my original question on how to get 200kHz on spark arrestor.

So far I see 3 possibilities.
In general to replace spark arrestor with HV MOSFET (highest available I've seen is 1.4 Kv) so I think I need 2 in sequence.
1. Drive MOSFET by function generator (not much flexible)
2. Use Kacher idea with back feed
3. Some kind of hybrid between 1 and 2. (Tariel Kapanadze)

So if someone can help with schema on how to implement it, I would really appreciate it. To begin with I need help with schema for 1. Drive 2 MOSFETs by function generator.

[amigo]

My friends, I am with baroutologos on this one. We should drop DS stuff as non-sense and proceed with pure Tesla work.

DS did not have one but at least two tabletop devices. Remember there's the other, big one, with huge capacitors and much larger NST (probably 10-15kV). That one was using some pretty thick copper wire and what not.

Beside an obvious reason, to pull a con, why would DS build more than one device that did not work, he had 9 altogether even?

And, you all remember photos of the original tabletop device surrounded by various instruments, as if it was being tested, yet no in or out wires coming from it. Was it all a photo-op, a staged shoot to give it more validity?

Lastly, was he a "plant" sent out to mud the waters of FE research even more. To his own admission, he worked for the petroleum interests (unsubstantiated as there's no evidence to that either) and he might have been sent out on a "new" assignment.

Such are the possibilities we have to consider, dishonesty, deception and foul play. We do not have the facts - believing is not knowing and nothing can change that.

[baroutologos]

I am reading Tesla's colorado springs notes and i am amazed the extent which all the Tesla copy-cats are using his circuits.
.....

Tesla realized that IF you have the spark gap in series with the L1C1 (when it breaks then resonates) then you get a lower Q. Period. (diagram1)

He tried to change that and devised some methods successfuly.
See diagram 2. thus he attained MUCH greater Qs and yes, with a teaspoon fed the elephant that way.
So the spark gap handled far less current strength than the main resonator circuit. Note the source can be an alternator or just plain pulsed DC of a NST with diodes.

I suggeste since you go that path to take a look at the Colorado springs notes book when time permits.

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Don Smiths circuits

Hi All,
I am a newcomer here, although I see that so many others like myself have had a go at replicating Don Smiths circuits.
The particular neon transformer I have, I have set at 3kv outpt.
Don has two diodes in this output effectively producing pulsed DC.
This is then fed into L1 and tuning cap.
The input impedence of L1/cap circuit is only 2.5 ohms at 35 kcs !!

This of course kills stone dead any high voltage.
The neon output can deliver a maximum of 10 milliamps.
This is like attempting to feed an elephant with a teaspoon.
No matter how fast you feed it, you will never satisfy the elephant.
35 kcs is still too slow.
I at first followed strictly the number of turns on L1 as per Dons example and later tried many turns here (still selecting appropriate cap. for resonance.)
Result - very small output on L2.
Can anyone explain how this terrible mismatch from neon transformer to L1/cap. can be handled?
Is this just a load of impractical rubbish?
To drive L1/cap circuit effectively, you need AMPS going through it.
If this were at high voltage as well, this is of course thousands of watts!!
Don uses a high voltage cap. accross L1, but no high voltage can appear here when the load is not far from a short circuit!
Steele Braden

[mlurye]

I started watching one of the videos on Youtube, since I can't understand a word he is saying, I simply couldn't follow in what he was trying to explain. Are there any english translations to his work?

check overunity.com, I think they do have a translation.
Here is schema....

[dragon]

dragon,
it is done in Kacher by Brovin. So may be we need somehow to combine 2.

I started watching one of the videos on Youtube, since I can't understand a word he is saying, I simply couldn't follow in what he was trying to explain. Are there any english translations to his work?
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[mlurye]

dragon,
it is done in Kacher by Brovin. So may be we need somehow to combine 2.