Glossary of Energetic Forum Discussion Terms

[DaemonSlayer]

Hi All

After reading many of these wonderful discussions about these potentially life-as-we-know-it changing technologies discoveries and experiments, I would like to ask the community as a whole to come together to make the forums a easier to understand place by adding a glossary of terms. For example the differences/similarities between Bedini/Newmann motors, and what are the theories behind the "old" description of "Over Unity" verses the newer views of "getting more out than you put in." Let's face it: Just because no one that has power to disseminate the technology takes you seriously doesn't mean that you have not discovered something new and wonderful. I believe it would be a mistake to hide our light under a bushel of misunderstanding because of terms that someone new to the discussion does not understand..... this only due to a missing solid explanation of that term.

Thanks!

DS

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I guess I vote no
Andrew T

PS: the old timers may try to keep to the set glossery of terms, but the newbees ( of which I am one ) would be totaly lost if they were not aloud to say things in thier own language.
PPS : Its not the language that is killing forums, its the endless pages and pages of material that seems to go in endless circles. My mind goes numb.

[Stealth]

It's true that many people jump on the bandwagon when anew topic emerges, then totally abandon it just as quick. It seems there needs to be more followthrough on, at least some, projects. Some really good technology has been brought up only to be swept under after a short discussion. If the thread starters would let all their information out at the beginning, maybe more people would grab the ball and run with it. I am as guilty as the rest. Stealth

[DaemonSlayer]

Expansion not contraction...

the old timers may try to keep to the set glossery of terms, but the newbees ( of which I am one ) would be totaly lost if they were not aloud to say things in thier own language.

Well Bob,

First of all good point. I do understand you view on the subject and instead of trying to limit what was said by the posters, I was more hoping to get a better explanation of the terms. For example what makes a Bedini motor a Bedini motor and not a Newmann..... As in many threads there seems to be a lot of explanation...re-explanation...posts of links...etc.. trying to pin down and rehash exactly what was meant by a particular term....in short: explanations for us newbies.

I hope this clarifies as I am not trying to tie anyone down, More trying to help shorten the lengths of some of the longer threads by making a kind of FAQ about our forum that can be enlisted to enlighten those newbies among us of which I am one also.


DS

[sucahyo]

Some term may have different meaning to different people. BEMF description for example. I think glossary page should be open for debate too.

[DaemonSlayer]

Some term may have different meaning to different people. BEMF description for example. I think glossary page should be open for debate too.

I completely agree! Maybe this discussion could be used to foster the 2 differable ideas into two slightly differing terms.....think that in a dictionary there is almost always more than one definition. These terms may even lead to two separate names for the two ideas they are trying to differentiate between...

Language should be all about the transfer and flow of ideas and your reader missing the point because you used a word that misleads them is rarely what one is looking for when writing a post.

PS: for instance I don't even know what BEMF is.... back electro-motive force (just a guess) and I assume if so that your describing the spikes of energy when an electrical/magnetic field on a coil collapses?

DS

[sucahyo]

PS: for instance I don't even know what BEMF is.... back electro-motive force (just a guess) and I assume if so that your describing the spikes of energy when an electrical/magnetic field on a coil collapses?

No, that is called coil collapse current, BEMF happen when there is changing of current in the coil, not after it collapse. Read this:

http://www.energeticforum.com/2252-post4.html

read explanation from Aaron and Peter Lindemann.

[Karl_Palsness]

[DaemonSlayer]

No, that is called coil collapse current, BEMF happen when there is changing of current in the coil, not after it collapse.

so then what is the difference between reluctance and BEMF?

[Bodkins]

comming from a new angle i see postive energy as fire and negative energy as water think about it and it makes sense well to me it does but maybe im not the one to ask

[Karl_Palsness]

EMF BEMF Reluctance

B E M F - A term sometimes used for counter electro-motive force, or that electromotive force which opposes or tends to set up a current in reverse direction, to the impressed current.

E M F - The force which starts and maintains a current of electricity through a conductor; it is commonly manured in terms of a unit called the volt.

Reluctance - the resistance offered to the magnetic flux by the substance magnetomotive force to the magnetic flux; magnetic resistance. its units is the oersted, and its symbol is R.

So in short one EMF is the electrical force and the Reluctance is the magnets field.

Karl

so then what is the difference between reluctance and BEMF?

[DaemonSlayer]

So aparantly you are on board with the thread

B E M F - A term sometimes used for counter electro-motive force, or that electromotive force which opposes or tends to set up a current in reverse direction, to the impressed current.

Thank you for the succinct explaination!
This explains what is trying to be gained from coil shorting

DS

[johnnyfalcon]

Hi All

After reading many of these wonderful discussions about these potentially life-as-we-know-it changing technologies discoveries and experiments, I would like to ask the community as a whole to come together to make the forums a easier to understand place by adding a glossary of terms. For example the differences/similarities between Bedini/Newmann motors, and what are the theories behind the "old" description of "Over Unity" verses the newer views of "getting more out than you put in." Let's face it: Just because no one that has power to disseminate the technology takes you seriously doesn't mean that you have not discovered something new and wonderful. I believe it would be a mistake to hide our light under a bushel of misunderstanding because of terms that someone new to the discussion does not understand..... this only due to a missing solid explanation of that term.

Thanks!

DS

does eric dollard or someone sell the entire electric terminology glossary so i can better understand the function of each term?