Always remove the neon-lamp

[nilrehob]

This is probably old news, if so let it be a reminder, so here i go:

When i was fiddling with my shorting-generator-coils-setup i had a neon-lamp to protect the reed-switch, as i was changing the circuit while the wheel was turning and i have fried too many reed-switches in the past.
When the cap was supposed to get charged by the shorted coil it only got up to around 5V, and rather slowly too.
The neon-lamp wasn't glimmering at all.
Then i removed the neon-lamp and the cap shot right up to voltage beyond the scope-settings like a rocket.

So to all Bedini-motor builders and the like, once the setup is working:
Always remove the neon-lamp!!

/Hob

[Inquorate]

I've experienced the same

Neons kill the coil collapse

[nilrehob]

And the neon-lamp does not even have to light up or glimmer or anything.
It just eats the spikes in silence, hiding in the dark, even when the caps/batteries are being charged and you think all is working well.
Its like tax!

/Hob

[dambit]

"It's like tax!" Love it.

[BinzerBob]

Yes good point. I never used the neon because I could not find one. I never had a problem, and I agree with your rational to not use it.

[Sephiroth]

Interesting observation... I will do a few tests this evening...

[nilrehob]

Hold on! My lamp could be malfunctioning, have to get a new one and confirm this...
This actually reflects my present situation with the tax-office, one little tax-general malfunctioning

/Hob

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hob, for clairification how are the magnets situated on the rotor N-N or N-S?

I have a setup that is close to this and will give it a try as well. Very interesting.

Thanks

Bit's

[nilrehob]

Hob, for clairification how are the magnets situated on the rotor N-N or N-S?

I have a setup that is close to this and will give it a try as well. Very interesting.

Thanks

Bit's

Do you mean the shorting of the coils?
Its N-N on my setup, but if the coils are generator-only and you are turning the wheel by hand and shorting it with a reed-switch it doesn't matter, could be 42 in binary

/Hob

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Thanks Hob, mine is N-N as well so I wanted to make sure of the compairison.

Bit's

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

It works!

Hold on! My lamp could be malfunctioning, have to get a new one and confirm this...
This actually reflects my present situation with the tax-office, one little tax-general malfunctioning

/Hob

Great find Hob! I shorted the coil first by a reed switch and was able to duplicate your findings (until I got my finger caught in the rotor), Then I just shorted the coil all together and even acheive better results as this caused a speed increase in the rotor (minus the finger of course).


Thanks much.

Bit's

[Mark]

Hi Bits

Are you just running an SSG with multiple coils and just shorted out 1 of the coils and your rotor speed went up? Is that right?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Mark that is correct. Actually I have three "Gen" coils with one of them sharing the core from the "Trigger" coil mounted at the 12:00 position. The three coils are connected in series (Delta) with each other and then attached to the bridge rectifier. From the rectifier then to the caps and bulb just like Hob's setup. When shorting the coil "string" just before connecting to the bridge (AC) side, my rotor speeds up and my voltage, as measured across the bridge (DC) side increases, not much, 2 to 3 tenths, but an increase non the less while still supply the load of the light. My light is a standard 65w 12v bulb and not the LED as in Hob's setup.

Thanks

Bit's

[nvisser]

How is it possible for the bridge to have an output if you short the ac side of it. Souns like tesla scaler waves!!!

[Mark]

Mark that is correct. Actually I have three "Gen" coils with one of them sharing the core from the "Trigger" coil mounted at the 12:00 position. The three coils are connected in series (Delta) with each other and then attached to the bridge rectifier. From the rectifier then to the caps and bulb just like Hob's setup. When shorting the coil "string" just before connecting to the bridge (AC) side, my rotor speeds up and my voltage, as measured across the bridge (DC) side increases, not much, 2 to 3 tenths, but an increase non the less while still supply the load of the light. My light is a standard 65w 12v bulb and not the LED as in Hob's setup.

Thanks

Bit's

So if I understand correctly you have 4 coils total. 2 single wire generation coils, 1 bifilar coil (1 wire for trigger and 1 for generation) and another single wire coil for your power or run coil. Is that correct, your trigger and power coils are separate and one of your generation coils is wound with the trigger?

Mark