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  • Originally posted by dutchdivco View Post
    Of coarse, you are right in your description of how our Gov't. is supposed to work. And its true that many fail to understand that we are a republic, rather than a democracy, and why/what that means.

    Still, in the end, our system,in order to work, requires THE PEOPLE to be the ultimate 'check' on Gov't. power. The very 'sheeple' that we all decry.
    I think you meant 'of course' (which means the same as 'certainly' or 'definitely,' rather than 'of coarse,') since the definition of 'coarse' is
    something composed of relatively large parts or particles. For example: The beach had rough, coarse sand.

    You are absolutely correct, however, in your statement that the People are the ultimate check on government power. The Founding Fathers made that very clear both in their writings to each other, and in the way they set up our Constitution. The only question that must be asked is whether or not a sufficient number of patriots are willing to learn the true laws of our nation and use those laws to oust corrupt politicians and bureaucrats and restore our rightful freedoms and heritage. When I say "a sufficient number of patriots," I am not talking about a majority of the People. A very small minority, actually, is all that is necessary, but these must be true patriots who are willing and committed to stay the course and do what is necessary.

    No matter what state you live in, there are towns, cities, and counties. You may live in a small town which only has a population of a few hundred people, but that is not a deterrent to achieving success. If you were to post a notice at a conspicuous location in your town, and in say 3 or 4 other towns that are nearby, stating that a meeting will be held on such and such date and time at a central location for the purpose of explaining what patriotic and concerned Americans can do to restore freedom and justice, how many people do you think would care enough to take an interest and show up? For that matter, would you show up if you saw such a notice posted? If you would say "just a few," then let's assume for the moment that "just a few" would mean just 5 people, with yourself included. If that is all you can scrape together, then that is enough. If your effort is repeated in other locations throughout the county in which you live, and if just 25 willing patriots, county-wide, can be found, then there is a solution that can be carried forward with success. Does that sound "impractical," or "undo-able" to you?
    "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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    • For anyone who doesn't believe that a national gun registration database is a precursor to gun confiscation, I suggest that you watch this video which shows how gun registration data in Canada has already been used to confiscate firearms.
      "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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      • Here is a screenshot of the Kochs' 2002 introduction of their "Tea Party," with a quotation from the original Tea Party's leader, Sam Adams, back in 1773:

        Final Proof The Tea Party Was Founded As A Bogus AstroTurf Movement | Eric Zuesse

        This is "democracy" in today's United States. The agenda of the Republican Supreme Court in Citizens United, etc., is to increase this "democracy" by removing the limits on campaign finance. Instead of one person one vote, we are increasingly moving toward one dollar one vote, which will leave the 1 percent of who own almost everything owning the government too. But is that democracy? Or is it fascism? And do Republicans and other conservatives know the difference between the two? And do non-conservatives even care whether they do? Because that's what we're getting more of, even if Republicans, or even liberals, don't care about it - and maybe even because they don't care about it.


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        • Originally posted by rickoff View Post
          For anyone who doesn't believe that a national gun registration database is a precursor to gun confiscation, I suggest that you watch this video which shows how gun registration data in Canada has already been used to confiscate firearms.
          Decision of the CourtApart from s. 11(g), Canadian constitutional law contains no prohibition of retroactive (or ex post facto) laws. There is a presumption of statutory interpretation that a statute should not be given retroactive effect, but, if the retroactive effect is clearly expressed, then there is no room for interpretation and the statute is effective according to its terms. Retroactive statutes are in fact common.

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          • Judicial Watch has just released their 2013 list of Washington's "Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians." The list of names is probably close to what any of us might have expected, so should come as no great surprise, and is shown below in alphabetical order:
            "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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            • Rick

              re: pos 4996, yes, sorry to say but I do think it is 'un-doable'. Hey, I'm a pessimist, what can I say. And sorry for the mispellings, or misusing of words. I was failed by the public school system, and only realised later in life that the main thing that they taught me, (that i was 'stupid') was, in fact wrong. Been playing catch up ever since. Jim

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              • this is total BS

                The fact they can take your laptop or cell phone or any digital device without any suspicion and copy all of it's contents and even keep the device for several days is criminal. These government thugs have gone too far with with homeland security BS.

                Court Rules No Suspicion Needed for Laptop Searches at Border

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                Court Rules No Suspicion Needed for Laptop Searches at Border

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                • Originally posted by dutchdivco View Post
                  re: pos 4996, yes, sorry to say but I do think it is 'un-doable'. Hey, I'm a pessimist, what can I say.
                  Come on, Jim, you've got to be kidding. You really don't believe that you could find 4 other people in the area of the county you live in who would be willing to do something that could actually bring about the changes that are needed to regain liberty and justice while thwarting corruption and tyranny? Or are you just saying you're not interested enough to give it a try?
                  Last edited by rickoff; 01-04-2014, 02:01 AM.
                  "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                  • Originally posted by 5150 View Post
                    The fact they can take your laptop or cell phone or any digital device without any suspicion and copy all of it's contents and even keep the device for several days is criminal. These government thugs have gone too far with with homeland security BS.
                    You're so right, 5150. This is a prime example of why we need People's grand juries - to hold any officials who participate in such unconstitutional acts accountable. These people truly are nothing but government thugs, and only we the People can hold them accountable. Surely no one in government will.
                    "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                    • "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                      • Legal Corruption - Follow The Money

                        Hi Rick,
                        I have known for some time that our government is corrupt but I did not know exactly where the corruption was and how it is used against us. I believe some time back you explained much of this for us but I must not have done my studies, or just plain didn't get it.

                        Searching for answers I came across this short video Ted talk by Lawrence Lessig. Lawrence Lessig: We the People, and the Republic we must reclaim | Video on TED.com

                        It has cleared up many things for me and now when I'm asked (where is the corruption and how can we stop it?) I at least have some answers for those who wish to know.

                        WE NEED REFORM-This video offers a solution and it is as you say, starts at the local level. But can this happen in time? Is it already to late?

                        I see that Maine is one of the few states that has adopted small funded systems, this imho is a big step toward the ending of the corruption. It also tells me at least one of the reasons Maine was picked for electronic voter fraud against Ron Paul. They knew vote #'s there were going to hurt, and they did not have Ron in their pocket.$$$$

                        Thanks for all you do here, Gene

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                        • Read more at

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                          • Rick

                            Originally posted by rickoff View Post
                            Come on, Jim, you've got to be kidding. You really don't believe that you could find 4 other people in the area of the county you live in who would be willing to do something that could actually bring about the changes that are needed to regain liberty and justice while thwarting corruption and tyranny? Or are you just saying you're not interested enough to give it a try?
                            Since you asked,...
                            Firsly, no, I DON'T think that me and 4 other people in the county I live in can bring about the changes your talking about. On a more basic level, we disagree as to the nature of the problem, and so disagree as to solutions, or even the possibility of a solution. YOU are an 'optimist'; you seem to be saying "If we could just get back to a Constitutional form of Gov't, by repealing the 17th amendment, (and perhaps several others), eliminate the FED, IRS, (and Dept. of Education?) AND if we could get 'good, honorable' people serving in Washington, we could solve all these problems.

                            I would point out you spent a # of posts, before the 2012 elections, explaining this 'plan' whereby people could elect a 'Constitutional' form of Gov't. which would replace our current Gov't. It didn't work,....why? Cause TPTB sabatoged (sp?) it, or bcause not enough people got involved to make it viable?

                            More basically, I see these problems we're all talking about as being a direct result of 'human nature', and evolution; we have evolved to develop Civilisation, and we have 'promoted ourselves to our level of incompetence, (as a species). These problems are worldwide, and go far beyond 'fixing' whats wrong with the U.S. government. And, getting 'honorable' people in D.C., who can't and won't be corrupted, well, good luck with that! And sorry for the mis-spellings, gramatical errors, etc. Jim

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                            • Four bosses of Iceland's failed Kaupthing Bank face prison terms of between three and five years and must pay millions of pounds in legal costs. They were convicted of fraud ahead of the collapse of the country's biggest bank in October 2008.
                              Icelandic 'banksters' get jail time over Kaupthing fraud — RT Business


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                              • Originally posted by dutchdivco View Post
                                Since you asked,...
                                Firsly, no, I DON'T think that me and 4 other people in the county I live in can bring about the changes your talking about.
                                Gee, that's too bad, Jim. Does that mean you wouldn't even be willing to try, even if you knew you were doing the right thing and that the law was on your side?

                                Originally posted by dutchdivco View Post
                                I would point out you spent a # of posts, before the 2012 elections, explaining this 'plan' whereby people could elect a 'Constitutional' form of government which would replace our current government. It didn't work,....why? Cause TPTB sabotaged it, or because not enough people got involved to make it viable?
                                "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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