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  • Hi Harvey,

    Thanks for looking at this as my electronics is very basic, I am a HAM operator, or I was, don't have much time now, and my training and Bsc is in industrial engineering which does just about cover everything, but electronics pure is a field on its own and you are up there with me as one of the tops

    Now back to the serious stuff .When the caps started to negative charge it was the circuit which was self oscillating with the coil and reed switch.

    The last test was with the PWM that I have which is the Lawton circuit, and I was only using the last half of the circuit to give me duty and frequency. The test was done with the one battery only, the current draw for the PWM is 20ma. By my calculations I am getting more out than putting in when you add the 20ma to the 105ma = 125ma, the 24hrs and the voltage drop on the battery. BUT I do understand that I should have charged up the battery to its max first, but I was in a hurry and I was thinking that maybe the battery voltage would have risen up a bit and in which case it would be proof in itself.
    But still with the drop, which was very small, it has shown that the circuit has produced more than the consumption on the battery.

    Now to something that I have found and which is part of my HAM days.

    When I change the resistance across the output of the phasing trans: the consumption goes down. E.G. put my 5w 12v bulb across the output which has a resistance cold of 3.6 ohms and the coil has a resistance of 3.85 ohms and so the resistance has dropped. Now if we take the frequency at this point, the change in resistance would have a markable effect on the frequency in the coil and the secondary coil.

    Now I think that we need to drop the frequency on the output transformer so as to create more current on the output with less voltage "change voltage for current". Now if we can drop the frequency down to 50 or 60Hz we will have good usable current. I am not saying that we drop the input frequency as this is part of the way there is a gain, but the final output should be at a useable frequency I am thinking on the line of a resistor and capacitor in parrallel, what do you think of this? and if you think it might be a good idea could you draw your thoughts so as we could compare before putting into practice.

    Going back to the caps and negative charge, when I removed the battery the voltage on the caps went down then up then down then up etc. untill 0v and then started to charge in reverse. Now we might have a fight on here inside the caps, taking both negative and positive charge depending on the cycle Now when it is connected with both battery and caps, may be the caps are taking the positive charge and the battery the negative!!!!!!!!!!! thinking aloud here, so if I am rambling, but I think we can uncover a lot of things here. I await your comments

    Mike

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    • Last edited by Harvey; 11-13-2009, 02:23 PM.
      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      • Over Cop 1

        Hi all,

        Haven't posted for a while as I have been busy looking at how this circuit is really working and to optimise the use of it.

        Well the circuit is the same except for the power coil and the connections for extraction of usefull power.

        The power coil is now one center tapped coll, the phasing trans: is connected to the two coil outer terminals and the center tap is used as a neutral.

        On my test I connected my FWBR to center and one outer of the coil, this produced 35.25v at 0.12a charging the battery

        I then connected my 5w 12v bulb to the center and the other outer terminal, this was at full brightness.

        the circuit was tuned at a frequency to give the full light on the bulb. These are the results so far on a 1hr test.

        Battery run voltage at start 11.75v
        Current draw from battery 0.82a
        Amps charging battery 0.12a
        Voltage charging the battery 35.25v
        Battery voltage 1hr 11.61v
        room temperature 20c
        power coil temp after 1hr 51c
        power coil is on a steel laminate, specific heat is 0.12
        bulb is 5watts

        More to come

        Mike

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        • @Harvey

          I see you are on line, there is a lot I have not posted, but I think you can calculate the heat wattage, you will find that it is over COP.

          I have found that to optimise the circuit it is neaded a neutral like the center tap. I think that Roaemary's circuit would benifit from this by putting a center tap in the 10 ohm load so as to create a neutral which has amp potencial.

          I have found that the bulb resistance is the trick!!!!!!!!! on one side of the coil, this changes the current draw from the battery, IT GOES DOWN

          Must go now as I have things to do, post more tomorrow


          Mike

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          • "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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            • net calculations

              Hi Harvey

              I agree with you on your points. I have calculated the wattage on the coil by using the sh=.12 X 87.8/3.412=3.0879watts. Now this is not taking into account that the coil is in the open air and that there is heat in the rest of the circuit, I am showing the worst case. So we have 5w+3.0879w=8.0879w, 0.087w in the rest of the circuit and lost to the ambient is on the low side.

              The frequency is high as I can only read up to 20khz on my computor sound card program. The duty cycle is around 20%, the mosfet I am using is a IRFP054N and gives some very clean switching from the 555. There is no blead through from the switching circuit, which is running on 9v.

              The start rest voltage was 12.58v and the stop rest voltage after 30min was 12.01v.

              The tuning I have done so as to keep the power between the phasing trans: and the power coil, a secoundary coil on the power coil does not show any voltage in this situation 0v.

              I hope you see what I am doing, I will post a circuit tomorrow, also been working on Rosemaries to put this into some usable form. Have a think about what I said on the center tap, this goes back to what I was doing with the two element BEMF heater, sort of bringing all together

              Mike

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              • Rosemary steap circuit

                Hi all

                This is what I have come up with for a working circuit for the MMRA.

                Tuning is made to create maximum power on the take off's of the heating coil. The heating coil will get very hot as it is collapsing within itself. The four coil phasing coil should be wound with a good gauge of magnetic wire "in case" the take off loads are disconnected, as all the energy will go back to the phasing transformer and it will heat up.

                The center tap creates a neutral for the two phases going into the coil.

                Any attempt to put a secoundary coil when tuned this way, will show a zero voltage on that coil (all the energy is in the primary).

                Mike
                Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley; 04-09-2010, 05:49 PM.

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                • Michael, just caught up on your thread, cant believe i didnt find it before now but oh well...


                  If you can find time, could you take a quick look at the circuit in my latest post in the "Marko Rodin" thread, i came across it by accident from a video and its not a million miles away from yours in a way, the only reason its in the Rodin thread is because im using a Rodin coil as the centre-tapped coil in the diagram. Its doing some strange things, at least they look odd to me, then again im a bit of a novice when it comes to how circuits work.

                  Thanks,

                  David. D

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                  • Two phase circuit

                    Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                    Michael, just caught up on your thread, cant believe i didnt find it before now but oh well...


                    If you can find time, could you take a quick look at the circuit in my latest post in the "Marko Rodin" thread, i came across it by accident from a video and its not a million miles away from yours in a way, the only reason its in the Rodin thread is because im using a Rodin coil as the centre-tapped coil in the diagram. Its doing some strange things, at least they look odd to me, then again im a bit of a novice when it comes to how circuits work.

                    Thanks,

                    David. D
                    Hi David, it looks like a two phase circuit. The STEAP circuit is this and by center tapping the coil you are creating a 0v or neutral and so you will have potencial on both sides like 12v-0v-12v and 24v across the two positives.

                    I hope this has answered your question

                    Mike

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                    • Posting of new on this thread

                      Hi all

                      I have decided to continue posting my reseach on this thread that I started last year and not on the cop17 thread.

                      As some followers will know I have been posting on that thread and will know that I have a LIVESTREAM TV channel for experiments into the work I am doing. I hope to continue doing this and have been thinking of putting up live as I work on this project.

                      I have been distracted a bit lately due to outside interferance but I will try not to let it interfear with my work.

                      Well that said I can tell you where I am on this work. I have found various forms of extracting energy which can be put to use, from a new type of water cell which uses an FL tube as an electrode in water to produce hydrogen gas or charging caps very fast or running lights and returning nearly all the energy consumed.

                      I will be posting some circuits for people to replicate in the near future and I will be open to questions on these. I will post here when I do a live stream TV show which I am aiming to do in the evening here GMT+1hr. I hope to obtain a camera which I can fix in a position so as all that I do can be seen.

                      For those whom are in a difficult time zone the programs will be recorded and can be seen when ever.

                      Mike

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                      • Sounds good Mike - looking forward to it.

                        BTW - ever find out if those were radiation burns on your arm or something else?

                        "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                        • Originally posted by Harvey View Post
                          Sounds good Mike - looking forward to it.

                          BTW - ever find out if those were radiation burns on your arm or something else?

                          Hi Harvey, as of yet I do not know, but in two weeks I am having a biops of it which should show what it is, I hope

                          I have not e-mailed you yet as I have been setting up another direction due to the problems I have been having. I will be in touch very soon when I have listed the questions that I want to ask you, I am getting a little out of my depth with this and getting side tracked with the things that I am finding.

                          One thing that I would like to pass by you is the question of using a battery or using a supply direct from the wall via a transformer of suitable amperage and voltage for the mosfets I am using. The problem with batteries is the charge rate in relation to the consumption, now if I can do the latter with caps on the end of that supply and return the energy there, then we might have made the rocket to reach the moon, so to say

                          I will send you my new e-mail with a hellow or as we say here ola, you can reply there if you wish.

                          Mike

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                          • Parametric oscillator

                            http://http://www.vk2zay.net/article/150

                            Hi all

                            This is just a link to an interesting experiment that someone else found which showed considerable gain and some ideas of use, though my route is for increase of energy from a source and manipulation of that energy for useful means.

                            enjoy

                            Mike

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                            • Ok, I just found this thread and am slowly going through all the posts and making some experiments while I do that. I just tried the experiment that Mike suggested in the first post of this topic. I used a reed switch glued on a relay coil. The coil is then driven by a signal generator. I use a 12/220v 45VA transformer for this and can get about 300mV on the output, but resonance needs to be achieved. Using a 100nF capacitor, this resonance is at about 20KHz. Very interesting indeed. It is just that I have a hard time believing that the reed switch can operate at those speeds, so this might just be some kind of magnetic induction on the switch itself, or is it? Well, maybe my question will be answered when I read through all the posts on the topic.
                              Here is my setup:



                              Thanks,
                              Jetijs
                              It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                              • there is a lot to read

                                Hi Jetijs

                                Yes there is a lot to read and watch on live stream and you tube which I have done.

                                The switching, no input but 300mv output is what I was getting and I moved on from there to the last circuit which is STEAP and it does work.

                                One of the most interesting at the moment is the circuit I used with the read sw and coil powered by the voltage between the phasing coils and the output coil. I am now thinking on this to apply to the ground earth and HV spark gap set up.

                                If we can get the circuit to oscillate in parametric form, I think we have cracked it

                                Mike

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