Manipulating Of Magnetic Flux

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Welcome Gibbguy

Thanks for joining in here, I am looking for all the input possible be it your own or documents, sites, patents etc and hope to form a like for like comparison between what people have found, there are many common denominators in the discoveries and it is a form of looking at which are fact and those that are not.

I hope to be posting some of these in the next few days, if I am not cut off as I have been here in Spain for the last three days, only this Forum I might say, I was getting withdrawl simptoms

Welcome to all

[Guest]

I constructed a device recently which is able to use a changing magnetic flux to do work, while maintaining magnetic unity on the flywheel. This means that on the wheel that is turned EMF = BACK EMF so only frictional losses apply, but it produces anomalous hot current on the coils. (The more coils you add the more power you get). It's construction is EXTREMELY simple and I made my first prototype out of an old hard drive platter, some magnets, and a coil from one of those shake torches.

The MEG by Tom Bearden could be seen as this motor's solid state counterpart.

I constructed a crude prototype yesterday and my theory seems sound, but it's going to take me a while to source the parts for a large version that could possibly power itself.

If anyone wants to evaluate my device or discuss the plans let me know because I feel it would be a great waste of time to sit on this idea.

Thanks
-Alex

[gyula]

Hi Alex,

Your setup description sounds interesting and if you do not wish patent your idea, then you may as well disclose it openly on this forum.
Years ago I built the MEG by the Bearden patent but it worked only as an ordinary transformer, unfortunately.

I wonder why you think that by adding more coils to your setup, the rotation speed of the flywheel would not slow down due to the Lenz law?

rgds, Gyula

[Guest]

My Design

I do not wish to patent this because so many potential inventors went this route and look where most of them are today. Dead and still no free energy.

Today I will be making a simple documentation of my idea for others to look at, and maybe somebody will replicate it to confirm if my claim is valid, or any constructive criticism would be appreciated. Or I will build it eventually.

Adding more coils on my wheel would produce an interesting effect... It would become slightly harder to turn (EMF), but the BACK EMF should be the same because it is always in symmetry and the forces of the magnets are doing the work, the turner of the wheel is only providing the system with "information", to order the energy into a useful form.

You will see this in many free energy inventions:
Free energy is obtained by the modulation of force - turning an electromagnetic/electrostatic force on or off at will. Tom Bearden's MEG tries to do this by switching the flux over 2 cores, causing a changing gradient in the pickup coils, but his device is very complicated since it is solid state and a mechanical version could do the same with much less effort.

[Guest]

To block a magnetic field, take two magnets with same polarity, n-n or s-s, now insert a piece of the appropriate thickness of steel between the two magnets. Neutral reaction. The attraction cancels out the repulsion. Good Luck. Stealth

He's on the right track

[Guest]

The Plans

Here I give to you the proposed explanation and plans for my device:



In Figure 1 we can see that the iron plate is at position 1 and is attracted to the magnet pair at position 0. The magnetic field will attract the plate and will give us some energy. In order to move further to position -1 we need to expend the same energy we just gained, so it could be said that moving the plate took no energy, setting aside frictional losses.

Now there is something hidden happening here that is not so obvious. When the plate is far away, the force between the magnets is large because the 2 Souths are very close together and unshielded. When the plate is moved between the magnets, the flux chooses to go through the metal instead and forces between the magnets are weak if the plate is of the right thickness. This force change between the magnets can be exploited for its energy even although moving the plate expended no energy as discussed in the first paragraph.



We can manifest the excess energy by using a setup similar to that of Figure 2. As we slide the plate towards the magnets, forces between them get weaker and the moving magnet moves towards the plate. Since the system is symmetrical at all times BACK EMF = EMF and therefore still no energy is expended in moving the plate from point 1 to point -1.

This setup may not be ideal in extracting as much energy as possible and is primitive, however in figure 3 we can harness the free energy directly.



Here we use the sliding plate to directly modulate the flux causing a changing field gradient on the coil, resulting in usable energy. The system is still in symmetry so it takes a resultant of no energy to move the plate from point 1 to -1 once again.

The design was further improved and the final result so far can be seen in figure 4.



As you can see we are just changing the flux intensity through magnetic coupling and the sliding magnet is not driven directly by the force used to move the plate, but rather indirectly. To harness our free energy, we just wrap a coil around the spring bound magnet. Lenz's law does not apply because the magnets are at 90 degrees to each other so the driving force does not interact directly with the proposed coil.

(If a coil is not desired one could use a mechanical system to harness the movement of the magnets as well)

Attached is a patent I found slightly similar to some of my diagrams.

[Peter Lindemann]

Kenneth C. Kozeka

Mike, et al,

Great thread!

In case you have not seen this material, I refer you to the following link on the work of Kenneth Kozeka, PhD. He found that the shape of the permanent magnets determines the shape of the field around them. For instance, a very thin, Neodymium magnet will have a field that projects way off to the sides, but not very far up, above the pole area. This shape can be manipulated with a very simple structure that allows two such magnets to attract to each other "sideways" along the side fields, and then be pulled away from each other vertically, using much less force, because the fields fall away quickly.

Here is a page about his work from PESwiki: Directory:Kedron:Eden Project:Permanent Magnet Energy Gain - PESWiki

I have a copy of an 11mb Powerpoint file showing detailed results of his work. He used to give this report out, but doesn't seem to be doing that anymore. Using Kozeka's simple field mapping methods, it is possible to figure out a simple, working PMM.

Peter

[gyula]

@PArAd0X

Thanks for showing your ideas and I like them, especially the 4th one.

Lenz law manifests of course but I agree as you said it cannot have its effect directly onto the rotor magnet(s) but it will certainly slow down the possible maximum speed of the sliding magnet(s) hence the induction (but this is not a big problem of course).

I think the biggest change in flux occurs near and around the just facing magnet endings / surfaces so it would be a good thing to place further coils above and below and to the left and right of the North pole of sliding magnet.
(However this fluxchange may not give a sinewave-like output, as would the coil wound all over the sliding magnet.)

You indicated Aluminium track in your drawing. Would not it be simpler to place the rotor (i.e. the moving) magnets onto a disk made of wood or some kind of plastic, Alu or any other non-magnetic metal may create eddy current losses.

I wonder how many rotor and sliding magnets you may have thought of? Extra coils involve further sliding magnets?

I think if you increase the number of sliding magnets and place them also in repel position, the cogging may increase, so maybe you would wish to place some sliding magnets at the 180 degree opposite positions wrt the repel ones in the attract mode (and also with a soft spring). Maybe this suggestion should be further studied for any drawback it may cause.

So all what remains is to build and test your setup to find its possible weak points (I don't think there is many), I wish you success and persistance.

rgds, Gyula

[gotoluc]

Hi PArAd0X,

magnet energy possibilities always attracts me

I understand the patent, your fig. 1 and 2 a little of fig. 3 but fig. 4 you lost me what is the advantage of using a magnet instead of the iron.

Sorry, I'm trying to understand how is the magnet on the track supposed to get attracted to the other magnets when they are in opposing positions?

Thanks for your time

Luc

[gyula]

Dear Peter,

There is a link to a ppt presentation at the site you referred to:
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Direct...EN_Project.ppt which is about 6.7MB of size. Is it much different from your 11MB file? If you could compare the two that would be great.

Normally at my yahoo mailbox I am allowed to handle 10MB attachments, maybe the 1MB extra would slip through... if it includes further info wrt to the above one.

Thanks for the reference to this material, years ago I came across the Kozeka material but I forgot about it by now.

rgds, Gyula

[gyula]

Hi PArAd0X,

magnet energy possibilities always attracts me

I understand the patent, your fig. 1 and 2 a little of fig. 3 but fig. 4 you lost me what is the advantage of using a magnet instead of the iron.

Sorry, I'm trying to understand how is the magnet on the track supposed to get attracted to the other magnets when they are in opposing positions?

Thanks for your time

Luc

Hi Luc,

If I may chime in for a moment, no need for attraction in case of Fig. 4 because the idea is to use the repel forces only. You have to invest first some energy to overcome the repel force when the rotor magnet approaches the sliding magnet but then you regain it after passing the full facing position.

Big initial input energy would be needed for starting this setup if the number the rotor and sliding magnets are increased, and all are in repel mode, this is why I suggested using rotor and sliding magnets in attract mode too at 180 degree positions wrt the repel ones.

rgds, Gyula

[Guest]

@Gyula
Thanks for the interest.

My diagrams are down to only the bare basics for informational purposes, and as you suggest there are much more efficient constructions possible involving a variety of different concepts such as flywheels etc.

I will be posting some more information tomorrow that explain things better than what I am doing now, possibly some animations.

@Luc

Figure 1 just shows that since the system is symmetrical, no energy is really expended in getting from point 1 to -1. If you try with permanent magnets you will easily see.

Figure 2 shows that this symmetry can still be maintained, but using a changing potential to move the magnet as well, which is one way the free energy can be harnessed.

Figure 3 shows that from the plate's point of view still no energy is being expended because half of its journey it's attracted to the magnet and the other half it resists being dragged away to -1. Yet there is a changing potential on the coil because the flux is following different paths, through the air or through the plate. This is exactly what the MEG does, changes the way the flux flows, while using minimal energy.

Figure 4 uses repulsion in stead of attraction. When the magnet on the track is at position 0, the spring is as compressed as it can be. This just enforces that moving the magnet from 1 to 0 takes energy because north repels north, but that energy is regained on the trip from 0 to -1. You could say you spent no energy moving the magnet on the track from 1 to -1, yet there is voltage on the coil!

I am aware that my explanations are not the best, so I'll use pictures in stead of words and make some simple animations demonstrating the concept.

Alexander Frolov has some invaluable information in his papers about logical energy concepts which easily explain many phenomena like the Gray Tube, Stan Meyer's cell etc. These are all easy to understand explanations with no unnecessary complexities like resonance/standing waves/harmony/the aether.

Frolov on resonant tuning and the Avramenko plug
Frolovs 'Power from Nothing'
work of potential field to get the power in load

[broli]

I like your figure 3 the most but not as you describe it.

Here's how I would use it. As the iron gets attracted the flux in the coil decreases and causes a current to flow that will resist change. But the coil is tricked since there's nothing to resist. On the contrary the coil will act as an extra magnet increasing the attraction on the iron piece further. When the iron piece hits TDC the coil is disconnected completely. So as the iron piece leaves the PM will be the only thing pulling the iron piece back.

Since you first had PM + coil attracting the iron and end up with only PM attracting the iron you have 2 overunity systems in one. On one hand the iron will be continuously accelerated and on the other you can freely use the energy from the creation of the electromagnet.

Please correct me if I got something wrong. I'm a big fan of simple, obvious and above all freely shared ideas, thanks for sharing them.

[morpher44]

horse-shoe

To block a magnetic field, take two magnets with same polarity, n-n or s-s, now insert a piece of the appropriate thickness of steel between the two magnets. Neutral reaction. The attraction cancels out the repulsion. Good Luck. Stealth

Check out this phenomenon. I carefully re-created what
Hendershot described.

YouTube - Hendershot's Compass Discovery Replication

[Peter Lindemann]

Same File

Dear Peter,

There is a link to a ppt presentation at the site you referred to:
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Direct...EN_Project.ppt which is about 6.7MB of size. Is it much different from your 11MB file? If you could compare the two that would be great.

Normally at my yahoo mailbox I am allowed to handle 10MB attachments, maybe the 1MB extra would slip through... if it includes further info wrt to the above one.

Thanks for the reference to this material, years ago I came across the Kozeka material but I forgot about it by now.

rgds, Gyula

Gyula,

I just checked and they seem to be mostly the same file. My version has 74 slides where the current one linked only has 70 slides. The four missing slides show actual photographs of the apparatus used to measure the forces and come in right after Slide 36. Everything else seems to be the same, so you have the whole thing, essentially.

Peter