High Voltage from Thin Air?

[h2ocommuter]

which way did he go?

Will try to get a work in progress (pdf) up this weekend that shows some frequency set that will allow someone looking into this to know what they are seeing and what to look for.

It will not be complete as it is on so many papers now and it will take some time to fully document, anyway it will be enough to show what I refer to and how it appears the lattice is vibration at some interesting frequencies.

The (pdf) link will be on the index page of my web site, late today or tomorrow and will be called 'Spatial Oscillation Frequency Groupings'

This is the site I have been using but I do not see the "Spatial Oscillation Frequency Groupings" in this page list of links for PDF's. Humm.

http://67.76.235.52/contents.htm

Am I in the right place?
Zane

[Inquorate]

Back one page, link is right up the top.

http://67.76.235.52/

[LtBolo]

I'm curious. Why the emphasis on the frequency of 1.094Mhz, when Frank Znidarsic's constant is a velocity of propagation, that only expresses itself as a frequency when applied to a length? Even then, there is no quantized frequency, only the frequency that arises out of the distance of propagation.

There may well be something to his constant, but it seems that it is being misapplied here. Somebody feel free to correct me...I'd love to be wrong...

[Inquorate]

I'm curious. Why the emphasis on the frequency of 1.094Mhz, when Frank Znidarsic's constant is a velocity of propagation, that only expresses itself as a frequency when applied to a length? Even then, there is no quantized frequency, only the frequency that arises out of the distance of propagation.

There may well be something to his constant, but it seems that it is being misapplied here. Somebody feel free to correct me...I'd love to be wrong...

arg my brain hurts..

Chapter 11

znidarsic seems to suggest here that with the electron it is 1.094 mhz seconds, not 1.094 mhz meters.. And stuff. I don't know what that means. But he does say that then the nuclear forces have the same impedence as the electron forces, allowing energy transfer between states. This would require production of photons would it not? In which case the scenario i posted on the previous page's link may well play out and we could expect a local temperature drop.

I have to admit though that this is all going beyond the limits of my comprehension. Either way, empirical observation will prove energy is cohering from somewhere

[DrStiffler]

I'm curious. Why the emphasis on the frequency of 1.094Mhz, when Frank Znidarsic's constant is a velocity of propagation, that only expresses itself as a frequency when applied to a length? Even then, there is no quantized frequency, only the frequency that arises out of the distance of propagation.

There may well be something to his constant, but it seems that it is being misapplied here. Somebody feel free to correct me...I'd love to be wrong...

@LtBolo

The problem with showing anything before it is complete is just this, people jump to conclusions. There is indeed a direct correlation between 1.094 MHz and Spatial Energy Coherence and because of the Znidarsic work and the derived frequency (real?) or not produces a very strange coincidence.

Once I have finished the document them I would be more than willing to hear contradiction and rebuttal, although until you see the entire work one might be considered blowing in the wind.

[LtBolo]

@LtBolo

The problem with showing anything before it is complete is just this, people jump to conclusions. There is indeed a direct correlation between 1.094 MHz and Spatial Energy Coherence and because of the Znidarsic work and the derived frequency (real?) or not produces a very strange coincidence.

Once I have finished the document them I would be more than willing to hear contradiction and rebuttal, although until you see the entire work one might be considered blowing in the wind.

I wasn't jumping to any conclusions at all, nor am I rebutting or contradicting anything. I was merely stating the fact that Znidarsic's constant is not a frequency, it is a velocity. As such, any reference to a quantized frequency of 1.094Mhz is not borne out by his paper as submitted.

To the extent that you can demonstrate and explain a basis for why the frequency implied by a 1 meter propagation has relevance, then I look forward to your findings. I am not a hostile audience sir, but simply a critical thinker.

And for what it's worth, I have stared at a spectrum analyzer for many, many hours with resonant flat solenoids driven by a signal generator and exciter circuits. The exciter circuits do exhibit an interesting tendency to lock to quantized frequency groups, although the signal generator driven coils does not. Does that tendency have any relevance to Znidarsic's Constant? Perhaps.

[ImJacksAmygdala]

I must admit I'm wading into deep waters so please be kind as this is my first post. I have closely studied Frank's and Ed's work and I am a new student of Dr. Stifflers.

The exciter's tendency to lock up to a set of frequencies for energy propagation that has a base character frequency of Franks 1.094 MHZ meters per second is not a surprise to me. If Frank was correct that energy propagation was a product of frequency X wavelength at a natural constant velocity for 100 percent energy transfer then I would think its only natural that a signal analyzer would show a primary resonant frequency of the receiving ring of the receiver load coil and resonant rings of various other medium in the free space within the range of the excited spatial LEL.

The frequency sets should provide a secondary source of empirical observations similar to how Plank derived his empirical quantization when researching the photoelectric effect.

If indeed Dr. Stiffler can link these empirical observations of resonant frequency sets to the relationship of Velocity = Frequency X Wavelength to his intimate understanding of spatial coherence excitation then I can only hope it will allow Dr. Stiffler to refine his ability to more efficiently excite the LEL.

If you know the frequency and the wavelength of the exciter then it must be of some importance that Frank's work would allow you to refine the velocity of the exciter circuit required to further excite a LEF to further expand the LEL effected by the exciter.

If I'm over speaking my abilities please tell me to sit down and watch the show. I mean no disrespect. I think I will go get some popcorn.

[Inquorate]

Odds are it was me jumping the gun re theory.

Interesting to see if the sun's recent activity will affect the lattice.. Here's a post made in heretical builder's earthquake prediction theory thread. Anyone got an exciter hooked up to 'long term' monitor?

Right now there is a solar flare taking place that ALL proton values jumping; even tot he Red >100Mev.
SolarSoft Latest Events

PS: just saw it being upgraded to M2.5.
Ok now we can watch the Magnetic scale; this on can possibly trigger a minor event - IF the Magnetic pulse jumps.

Here you can see real time Magnetosphere:
Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation

By the way, those with Bedini SG and Dr. Stiffler should monitor for next two days; will probbaly notice an increased output.

[DrStiffler]

Odds are it was me jumping the gun re theory.

Interesting to see if the sun's recent activity will affect the lattice.. Here's a post made in heretical builder's earthquake prediction theory thread. Anyone got an exciter hooked up to 'long term' monitor?

@all

I don't think anyone jumped anything here!

If Znidarsic happens upon the paper and 1) Wants all association removed, 2) Wishes to add to the paper by rejection or additional possibilities or 3) Just wants a to totally disclaim any association from it and his theory, I would be expedient in honoring such request.

Although I can not disassociate SEC from the constant appearance of frequencies related to 1.094MHz (may be later refined to something a bit closer) and all data indicate a correlation that is well within data that is hard to ignore.

I would suggest that anyone wait until I finish and then I am sure all the critters in the wood work will emerge to put down, chastise and or otherwise reject the result. Which again is fine and go for it, yet for years now people have been asking for the constant frequency association I talk about and this will be that response.

[gravityblock]

Dr. Stiffler, keep up the excellent work and thanks for the updates and for everything you have shared with us! We have electromagnetic waves (photons) and we have vibration of the lattice (sound or mechanical waves). According to Znidarsic, when light or photons slow down to match the speed of the mechanical waves in the electronic structure of the atom, then there is an impedance match to allow for a 100% transfer of energy.

In Dr. Stifflers SEC, there is vibration (mechanical waves) in the lattice at certain frequencies related to Znidarsic's Constant. Why does this come as a surprise? When the lattice vibrates at certain frequencies, then there must be an impedance match between them (the lattice will completely absorb and re-emit this energy over and over again, thus the vibrations). All other frequencies which are un-related to Znidarsic's Constant will dampen the lattice vibration to a lesser or greater degree, and we won't have a 100% transfer of energy.

Farmhand made an excellent observation when his pewter mug is placed next to his Tesla Coil (video), then the pewter mug will sing when he touches it. When he connects the HV return to the mug and then to Gnd, he gets small arcs between his finger and the mug while it sings. The Tesla Coil is exciting the lattice of the pewter mug to vibrate (This is showing a transfer of energy).

Eric Dollard tells us about his research into Georges Lakhovsky's Multiwave Oscillator (video). The lattice of the multiwave oscillator is vibrated by using spark gaps. Dollard also refers to harmonics and actually uses music in some of his experiments. Antique singing bowls (video) are well known for their unique quality of producing multiple harmonic partials or multiphonics where several notes are produced at once. Again, there is vibrations in the lattice of the singing bowls where the energy is completely absorbed and re-emitted over and over again with only a single strike, which is similar to how Farmhand's pewter mug sings when excited by the Tesla Coil.

The water in the antique singing bowl displays a few properties similar to a super fluid, such as zero viscosity and quantized vortices where the superfluid will very quickly begin spinning at the critical speed (this can be seen in the video when the rotation direction of the "stick" moving around the bowl is reversed. All of the water will very quickly reverse it's direction of rotation almost instantaneously as if it was one big water molecule). It would be interesting to know if the antique singing bowls could be incorporated into Dr. Stiffler's SEC and what the effect may be.

I believe Moray's Sound Pickup Device excited the ground to vibrate. The vibrations or the phonons propagation distance through the ground would be frequency dependent, thus he could tune it to listen 10 ft away or tune it to listen 5 miles away. The closer he was to Znidarsic's Constant, the further away he could listen. The speed of propagation of a phonon, which is also the speed of sound in the lattice, can propagate for large distances across the lattice without breaking apart. This is the reason that sound propagates through solids without significant distortion. There's a really simple device which allows a light from a laser to be pointed at a window in order to pick up the sound vibrations of a person talking in the room over large distances.

Rumors are that Ed Leedskalnin sung to the coral. It could have been the opposite, where the coral was singing to him due to the electromagnetic waves matching the speed of the mechanical waves in the coral. Hutchinson used sound to levitate objects along with other weird stuff. Here's a video on an acoustic levitation chamber.

Below is an image and a quote from an article written by William Beaty. Notice how he makes somewhat of a connection between the electromagnetic waves being slowed down to match the speed of mechanical waves within the lattice of the metal, and this matching of speed causes the electromagnetic waves to become longitudinal or compressed. Doesn't this sound like Znidarsic's theory on the quantum transitional speed? All of the above, along with cold fusion, sonoluminescence, the SEC, etc. have certain things in common related to Znidarsic's Constant, which is way beyond coincidence, IMO. When electromagnetic waves slow down to match the speed of the mechanical waves in the lattice, then the electromagnetic waves become compressed and becomes a longitudinal wave, or also known as a compression wave. This is nothing more than a perfect union between light and sound (they become one in a sense).

This only can work because the long, thin coil will support slowly-moving electromagnetic waves, and the electron-sea within the metal of this coil behaves as if it's become compressible.

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The EM fields are transverse. And the only thing which acts like a "longitudinal" wave is the density of free electrons in the wire.

GB

[Inquorate]

I sent an email to frank znidarsic re dr stiffler's latest paper re the lattice vibrating at frequencies 1.094mhz apart. He does believe there is a link between his theory and dr stiffler's experiments.

[gravityblock]

Znidarsic's Constant

I sent an email to frank znidarsic re dr stiffler's latest paper re the lattice vibrating at frequencies 1.094mhz apart. He does believe there is a link between his theory and dr stiffler's experiments.

I've found something, which Znidarsic may not be aware of (assuming of course this isn't a coincidence).

A nucleon has a radius of 1.25 fm. A nuclear spacing of 1.36 fm was used as the nuclear displacement to calculate the velocity of sound within the nuclear structure. This nuclear spacing is slightly greater than the radius of a nucleon due to the packing fraction of the nucleons (ref http://hitoshi.berkeley.edu/221B-S02/nuclear.pdf).

Znidarsic uses the 1.36 fm as the radius of the the nucleon, which includes the nuclear spacing. If we take the radius of the nucleon, 1.25 fm, and multiply it by 1.094, we obtain 1.3675 fm, which is the nuclear displacement being used in his calculations. Could this be a direct link to Dr. Stiffler's Spacial Resonant Frequency. Is this how the atom and Dr. Stiffler's SEC self-excites itself into oscillations? Is Znidarsic's constant, also related to distance or frequency, in addition to velocity? I don't know, my mind runs wild sometimes.

Here's an interview with Znidarsic in regards to the nuclear spacing of 1.36 fm used to calculate the velocity of sound within the nuclear structure. The interview with Znidarsic starts around the 5 minute mark.

GB

[lamare]

Tesla did this too..

Just reading an article from a book I'm digitizing by Eric Dollard ( http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Eric_Dollard_...%20Dollard.pdf ) named "Faster Than Light!", also published here:

Nikola Tesla : Faster Than Light!

I remember experimenting with Doc's system and found it beautiful that I was able to light a florescent at 10 cm distance from the coil. Now read this:

In 1892, he made his historic experiments in Colorado; where he manufactured, for the first time, artificial lightning bolts 100 feet long, and where he was able, by means of high-frequency currents, to light electric lamps at a distance of three miles without the use of any wires whatsoever.

No sweat! THREE MILES!

That would be like 4.83 km!


WOW!


It reads on:

Talking to me about these experiments recently, Dr. Tesla revealed that he had made a number of surprising discoveries in the high-frequency electric field and that, in the course of these experiments, he had become convinced that he propagated frequencies at speeds higher than the speed of light.

In his patent No. 787,412, filed May 16, 1900, Tesla showed that the current of his transmitter passed over the earth's surface with a speed of 292,830 miles per second, while radio waves proceed with the velocity of light Tesla holds, however, that our present "radio" waves are not true Hertzian waves, but really sound waves.

He informs me, further, that he knows of speeds several times greater than that of light, and that he has designed apparatus with which be expects to project so-called electrons with a speed equal to twice that of light.

Coming from so eminent a source, the statement should be given due consideration. After all, abstract mathematics is one thing, and actual experimentation is another. Not so many years ago, one of the world's greatest scientists of the time proved. mathematically that it is impossible to fly a heavier-than-air machine. Yet we are flying plenty of airplanes today.

Tesla contradicts a part of the relativity theory emphatically, holding that mass is unalterable; otherwise, energy could be produced from nothing, since the kinetic energy acquired in the fall of a body would be greater than that necessary to lift it at a small velocity.

It is within the bounds of possibility that Einstein's mathematics of speeds greater than light may be wrong. Tesla has been right many times during the past, and he may be proven right in the future. In any event, the statement that there are speeds faster than light is a tremendous one, and opens up entirely new vistas to science.

While it is believed by many scientists, today, that the force of gravitation is merely another manifestation of electromagnetic waves, there have, as yet, been no proofs of this. There are, of course, many obscure things about gravitation that we have not, as yet, fathomed.

At one time, it was believed by many scientists that the speed of gravitation is instantaneous throughout the universe. This is simply another way of putting it that there are speeds greater than light.

Yet, from a strictly scientific viewpoint, no one today has any idea how fast gravitational waves — always providing that the force is in waves — travel. If the moon, for instance, were to explode at a given moment, how long would it be before the gravitational disturbance would be felt on earth? Would the gravitational impulse or waves travel at the speed of light — that is, 186,000 miles per second — or would the effect be instantaneous? We do not know.

The entire subject will no doubt arouse a tremendous interest in scientific circles. It is hoped that other scientists will be encouraged to investigate Dr. Tesla's far-reaching assertions; either to definitely prove or to disprove them.

IMHO, It's about time that those scientists that take their work seriously get to work. Investigate Dr. Tesla's far-reaching assertions indeed. Like I did, and like Eric Dollard did.

Any scientist that has an open mind and really wants to investigate the stuff at hand, that 'Stallman' hacker mentality, will go trough a shock when he realizes Tesla was right after all. At least, that's what happened to me.

Speeds greater than light are possible. Einstein was wrong. Eric goes as far as referring to the "Einsteinian lie". I just know that Einsteins relativity theory is wrong, in our three dimensional world that is, and gladly refer to Dr. Charles Kenneth Thornhill for the analysis:

Dr Charles Kenneth Thornhill

Oh, and distances greater than 10 cm to light a fluorescent are possible, too.

[boguslaw]

I don't know. Tesla was not always right or rather not always said all he thought. Mass is alterable, momentum is not, slight difference.

[LtBolo]

Any updates on the Znidarsic association Dr. Stiffler?