A question for every member of the energetic forum.

[h20power]

The question can be found and answered here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post47320

All are wellcome to give the question a shot, and remember never be afraid to get it wrong for that is how we all learn. Note the answer can't be found in Stanley Meyer's patents and/or books, it is a physics question. Have fun


h2opower.

[h20power]

I answered the question, so now everyone can have Stanley Meyer's technology.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-6.html#post47477

h2opower.

[Bob Smith]

How Does Voltage Perform Work

Okay, I'm going to set myself up as the pinata to get the conversation moving...
The question itself needs to be disentangled from our preconceptions about work first. In a sense, there is always work going on in the universe. The sea of energy in which the earth floats, to use Moray's terminology, is constantly fluctuating and pulsating - doing the "work" that is the precursor to all the energetic work taking place in the universe: ensuring every atom's electron spin, in every molecular bond, in every metabolic process from the cellular level on up. Some would even say that this basic work is the sine qua non (that without which) of matter's existence.

This sea of energy manifests itself in a variety of ways which can be harnessed to perform work. The most basic manifestation is electro-gravitic-magnetism...

Okay... now someone else's turn... :=]

[jibbguy]

Time to put on our thinking "Caps"

Cool, i like "thought experiments" (much cheaper with & less swear words than the other kind )

Well, this one could be contested if it is real "work" or not, but the diff in energy out vs. energy in would argue for a "yes" (and although i have seen these discussions about V doing work before, this is the first time i've seen this below particular argument used lol):

The voltage in a capacitor of a DC power supply circuit does work without significantly higher current flow: We see this in properly-built DC power supplies when electrolytic caps are used as filters to "de-ripple". Without the cap in the circuit, the Real Power figure of the pulsed, "rippled" output would be much lower; and the differential of "power out" vs "power in" with and without these mundane filter caps involved shows that having them in the circuit adds "energy efficiency"; which could be considered "work"... As more work per Watt of input can be performed with the cap in the circuit, than with it out.

Disclaimer But note this tends to break down in circuits that are too heavily loaded; for the efficiency to be true the current load must be "light" or "medium" in regards to the upper power output limit capabilities of the circuit (and rating of the cap). And of course the Frequency of the raw pulses must match the correct "RC" of the circuit to get the best filtering results.

Some may argue that the work is because the energy is "stored": But this is not the case, the t of the cap will cause it to load up for a while when turned on, and then bleed off power for a few hundred milliseconds when the device is switched off; but in the above case the efficiency under operation could last years if under constant use.

When you think about it there are other examples of higher energy efficiency when caps are used verses without them; like AC Resonance, and "Power Factor Correction" with devices such as AC inductive motors. Since most would agree that caps use voltage / potential as their "modus operandi".... Is that voltage doing work?

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Happy 4th!

Cool Thread...

Happy Fourth of July too

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