Simplest Solid State Tesla Switch!

[lanenal]

I need to gradually learn

Joit, maybe you are natural in making things, but for me, I need to learn a lot. I don't even know how to use a iron yet, I just bought a multimeter and I am learning how to use it. I am following some of the most basic tutorials on youtube and learn those basic skills. And I am not quite confident yet -- what if I messed one little thing up to fail immaturely -- for example, a false soldering? But, I will learn -- though it will take time.

Meanwhile, I am throwing this out for those who are interested, or who might got a better background than me. Anyway, I do think this is a simplest solid-state Tesla switch plan, to the best of my knowledge. If you do know similar plans, please share it with me, so that I can regret on my own wasting of time in reinventing the wheel .

Just dont expect, that someone will rebuild it.
The Internet is full with thousands of Plans and Theories from Things, and Peoples, what cite the Big Masters said, and deliver 'This Sure Works'.
But there is No Progress, its all only Hot dry Air.
They only bloating Sites, where nothing comes around.

When you have a good Improvement for the Switch, then build one, and put it into the Thread.
So simple.
But not doing a lot Theory, and, as allready did happen,
Make the big Thread about something like "This is the Free Energydevice",
and someone else did rebuild it, and nothing Worked, because someone had a Theory.

All what you do with unproven Theories is to abuse The Free Energy Devices,
what do work, or even better then normal one, and the Peoples what are working on it,
because, when someone spend his Time and Money to effort it, and build it,
and nothing Works, they Blame the Whole Free Energy and all the right Theories about, that its Crap and are Lies.
And only, because someone had a Theory, what Sure work.


Its even so simple, to start tinkering. Just take some Things apart, and you will see, how much usefull Parts are in.
And its way better this Way, that you can come to a real Solution of a working Device.

[lanenal]

Joit, can you give a link here? I googled it but can't find anything. I claimed nothing except that I got this plan without copying anybody else. I am throwing this out, hoping maybe somebody else having more insights can give me some reasonable precautions before I start building -- anyway, I will be slow, so don't worry about it.

This Schematic of this Tesla Switch is at the Original Free Energy Device. Maybe you do a better research, before you do claims.

[lanenal]

Thanks Xenomorph.

Joit: I understand that in the pursuing of free energy there got to be a lot of frustrations. So far, I have not yet personally seen one -- maybe partly because I am not a good builder yet. But I can't just say no to free energy like most people would do, rather, I am willing to be called a fool for the sake of venturing.

My plan I have shared with you guys here is not meant to be misleading or to hoax people into more frustrations. I give no guarantee, I am candid about what is known and what is not known yet. It is all at your own discretion to try it out or to just wait awhile.

My intention is, through this forum, we can beat out an easy path for everybody, to decrease the chance of frustration for those who are less skillful. However, this might be achieved at cost of frustrations of the pioneers, naturally. Yet again, I never intended to hoax anybody into this.

Seems like this thread is becoming a platform for personalized projections of frustration.
I dont see WHERE the creator of this circuit has ever made "Free Energy" claims ??? Clear projection here.
He has not even claimed that it would work, he is merely sharing a conceptional idea still on simulation level and discussing it.
If someone actually rebuilds it, then this person takes the sole responsibility for a possible waste of his time or the comfort of a successful circuit.
I might go ahead rebuild it if i find the time, it might get me ideas that i wouldnt have had otherwise maybe, who knows.
All a matter of attitude.

[lanenal]

sigzidfit,

Thanks for sharing the links, will find out how I can take advantage of them. Meanwhile, the LTspice is also free (just google it), and I highly recommend it. You can use it under windows, but if you have linux, you can probably run it under wine.

lanenal

lanenal,

With the tools you are using it should be possible to export the components from a model and generate a parts list to order from mouser or the like.

A detailed schematic, PCB routing instructions, and a web configurator with a buy now button can't be far behind.

Punch the button, put it together, then put up a live 24/7 video feed of it doing some thing useful forever.

You'd get my vote.

Peace
PJ

The Spice Home Page

PCB Prototypes

OpenModelica Project

Home Online Machine Shop Fabricate Custom Parts Instant Pricing

[ashtweth]

Chances are we are going to learn some thing as we always do after building, we have a few new ones from Dave in the TW switch to sort through(building), but i think this is worth a look guys. But good show lanenal thanks for this inclusion and thought promotion

[citfta]

To Lanenal, please consider this as hopefully helpful criticism. By your own admission you are in the learning process so I hope you remember we are all learning in some way or another. I have been involved in electronics for over 50 years and I still am learning so keep studying and you will get there. I think you are getting some unfair criticism because your circuit will not work as it is drawn. If someone wanted to help you they should show you what is wrong instead of accusing you of wrong motives. If you don't mind I will try to explain why your circuit won't work. For the tesla switch to do what it is supposed to do you have to connect two of the batteries in series and at the same time connect the other two in parallel. This means that the switches have to follow a certain sequence when they are energized. As you have drawn the circuit all of the switches will energize at the same time. If this happens you will get a lot of smoke because you will be shorting out all the batteries. Please don't be discouraged, we all had to start somewhere. None of us was born knowing all this (except maybe Tesla). Good luck on your learning adventure. citfta

[lanenal]

ashtweth:

Thanks for your open mindedness .

I am including a simulation for inductive loads (parasite series resistance set to 9 ohms) here, with capacitors (equiv series resistance set to 1 ohm).

hopefully it gives more confidence to this plan.

lanenal

Chances are we are going to learn some thing as we always do after building, we have a few new ones from Dave in the TW switch to sort through(building), but i think this is worth a look guys. But good show lanenal thanks for this inclusion and thought promotion

[lanenal]

Thanks citfta. As for my background, I am the best candidate for the Olympic in Physics after the exam on theory in our country. But my experimental part failed miserably. The simulation works, that why I am posting my idea here.

You rightly notice a pitfall in building Tesla Switches: battery shorts. My circuit is designed to avoid that, making it a logical impossibility! Just stare at my circuit for a while you should be able to get this, it is really simple.

And this of course provides valuable precaution for those who want to build one: if you got the ends of the coils wrong, you might get into trouble of burning your batteries!!! So, please proceed with care.

To Lanenal, please consider this as hopefully helpful criticism. By your own admission you are in the learning process so I hope you remember we are all learning in some way or another. I have been involved in electronics for over 50 years and I still am learning so keep studying and you will get there. I think you are getting some unfair criticism because your circuit will not work as it is drawn. If someone wanted to help you they should show you what is wrong instead of accusing you of wrong motives. If you don't mind I will try to explain why your circuit won't work. For the tesla switch to do what it is supposed to do you have to connect two of the batteries in series and at the same time connect the other two in parallel. This means that the switches have to follow a certain sequence when they are energized. As you have drawn the circuit all of the switches will energize at the same time. If this happens you will get a lot of smoke because you will be shorting out all the batteries. Please don't be discouraged, we all had to start somewhere. None of us was born knowing all this (except maybe Tesla). Good luck on your learning adventure. citfta

[Joit]

@ cifa if you talk about me at critisize, i didnt critizise his Circuit,
but like he dress it.
It is much easier when you make a Topic like Atempt or Idea to Simplify the Tesla switch,
then People will know, what they are awaiting.
But do a Claim without Proof is simple just cheat.
And btw, i think anyhow, i know, that his Circuits most dont work

For me personally i dont care, if it do rebuild hundreds Peoples and nothing work.

But frustrating is it then, when you see this Peoples leaving, get blunt, and desinterested, because they did spend a lot Time, and work at much Things, what dont work at last.

I have right now a lot of Fun to build my Things and good findings, most do more or less work, but i come closer and closer.
But just sitting there, to do Schematics is for sure not the way to go.
A normal Way is imho to present your Idea and then work on it or got the Opinion from someone else.
But not replacing Parts even before you even know if it works or not.
You need a working Thing, that you can fix or optimize it, not only a Schematic.

@Lanenal I know you like to do Circuits.
But do something usefull and build something, as to sit the whole Day in front of your stupid Computer.
Thats the real way, you will learn more, to start simple and get advance after a while.

[lanenal]

Joit: Your advice on building one is well taken. But don't claim things you don't know yet. As for the title, it is meant to attract eyeballs. You won't know exactly what I will say until you actually read the whole post. So please don't judge by the title alone.

Also, I don't think my title is wrong: the design I posted here satisfy the specification of a Tesla switch without any compromise. And I validated it by simulations. Then since you can't give any references here, I still think that my design is the simplest to the best of my knowledge.

But do a Claim without Proof is simple just cheat.
And btw, i think anyhow, i know, that his Circuits most dont work

For me personally i dont care, if it do rebuild hundreds Peoples and nothing work.

But frustrating is it then, when you see this Peoples leaving, get blunt, and desinterested, because they did spend a lot Time, and work at much Things, what dont work at last.

I have right now a lot of Fun to build my Things and good findings, most do more or less work, but i come closer and closer.
But just sitting there, to do Schematics is for sure not the way to go.
A normal Way is imho to present your Idea and then work on it or got the Opinion from someone else.
But not replacing Parts even before you even know if it works or not.
You need a working Thing, that you can fix or optimize it, not only a Schematic.

@Lanenal I know you like to do Circuits.
But do something usefull and build something, as to sit the whole Day in front of your stupid Computer.
Thats the real way, you will learn more, to start simple and get advance after a while.

[Joit]

I just will stuck at Citfta's Post "get a lot of smoke because you will be shorting out all the batteries"
and keep my further Comments for now.
So much to Simulations and doing working Circuits there.
I thought Christmas is over, now we going to burn the Tree?

[Xenomorph]

Just keep on flaming here guys, that way we will never soon realize a solid state tesla switch effort.
I still dont understand the amount of negative feelings towards lanenal.
If he would be frustrated now and keep on working in his own without posting here it would be thanks to people like Joit depreciating his benevolent input.
I can only encourage lanenal to continue sharing his findings without becoming a victim of psychopathic frustrative projections with no constructive intent.

[sucahyo]

For the tesla switch to do what it is supposed to do you have to connect two of the batteries in series and at the same time connect the other two in parallel. This means that the switches have to follow a certain sequence when they are energized.

No one ever build it with three battery?

I don't know how to read the diagram.

Question:
@lanenal, can you replace the MOSFET with line? So, if there are 4 sequence then can you show 4 picture with different line?


@all
anyone ever made the battery switching different from battery pulsing? I am thinking to reduce batery ON time when all that we need is coil shut off spike.

[lanenal]

Xenomorph: Thanks for your encouragement! I am OK though, Joit is not completely negative, his emphasis on experiment is quite constructive.

lanenal

Just keep on flaming here guys, that way we will never soon realize a solid state tesla switch effort.
I still dont understand the amount of negative feelings towards lanenal.
If he would be frustrated now and keep on working in his own without posting here it would be thanks to people like Joit depreciating his benevolent input.
I can only encourage lanenal to continue sharing his findings without becoming a victim of psychopathic frustrative projections with no constructive intent.

[lanenal]

@sucahyo

I think you are right about 4 steps. but not sure what you mean by 'line'? I guess you mean substituting the MOSFETs by switches? Anyway, here are the description:

The sequences are, as I understood it (but correct me if I got it wrong):

1. the pulse voltage Vp is at zero, which is much lower than the reference voltage Vr: M1 open, M2 and M3 closed, so V1 and V2 are connected in parallel; M4 closed, M5 and M6 open, so V3 and V4 are connected in series.
Result: the left end of the load is at 12V, and the right end of the load is at 24V.

2. the pulse voltage Vp is at 6V (when it rises from zero to 12V, usually in nanoseconds), which is very close to the reference voltage Vr: M1 open, M2 and M3 open, so V1 and V2 are NOT connected; M4 open, M5 and M6 open, so V3 and V4 are NOT connected (NOTE: NOT connected can be read as having a very very high resistance, say in 1000 mega-ohms).
Result: the left end of the load is going from 12V to 24V, and the right end of the load is dropping from 24V to 12V.

3. the pulse voltage Vp is at 12V, which is much higher than the reference voltage Vr: M1 closed, M2 and M3 open, so V1 and V2 are connected in series; M4 open, M5 and M6 closed, so V3 and V4 are connected in parallel.
Result: the left end of the load is at 24V, and the right end of the load is at 12V.

4. the pulse voltage Vp is at 6V (when it falls from 12V to zero, usually in nanoseconds), which is very close to the reference voltage Vr: M1 open, M2 and M3 open, so V1 and V2 are NOT connected; M4 open, M5 and M6 open, so V3 and V4 are NOT connected (NOTE: NOT connected can be read as having a very very high resistance, say in 1000 mega-ohms).
Result: the left end of the load is dropping from 24V to 12V, and the right end of the load is going from 12V to 24V.

Then it repeats itself, going back to 1.

No one ever build it with three battery?

I don't know how to read the diagram.

Question:
@lanenal, can you replace the MOSFET with line? So, if there are 4 sequence then can you show 4 picture with different line?


@all
anyone ever made the battery switching different from battery pulsing? I am thinking to reduce batery ON time when all that we need is coil shut off spike.