Teslas first experiments

[Guest]

"One of Tesla's first discoveries took place when he realized that just after a high voltage dynamo's switch had been closed, for a brief millisecond, blue 'streamers' would appear to emanate orthogonal to the wire, similar to how radiant energy is described. This phenomenon would send an invisible shockwave throughout the room, to be felt by all (pins & needles) and if intense enough it would 'arc' onto an unlucky workman and kill him.

It was almost as though, viewing from the generator's perspective, the charge had hit a 'wall' for a brief second before the charge carriers (electrons) could respond. This resulted in a potential well and the brief supercharging of the wire.

Tesla reproduced this effect and named the energy rays emanating from the wire radiant energy. In order to achieve this effect the pulse would have to be unidirectional and above 10 kHz for safety reasons."

I would like to recreate this setup, but am not quite sure where to start because there are very little technical details in Tesla's notes. This experiment directly relates to the findings in Lindemann's book and the Edwin Gray valve. If anyone has any ideas id be very grateful.

Thanks

[broli]

I just read the this part in "Secrets of Cold War Technology". And I have to say I'm completely blown away by it. This is my first time I went deep into teslian experiments but WTH is this . Due to the lack of any diagrams I'm left with my imagination. The experiment where he used a coil and saw a white mist going over the the coil like wind over a car in a wind tunnel sounds and probably looks astonishing.

I googled this very profound discovery but I found nothing. I want to know and see MORE much MORE. According to this book Tesla ditched high frequency/voltage systems in favor of this. He apparently saw it even as a failure. As these amazing experiments where purely impulse based.

I'm still reading on.

[boguslaw]

I just read the this part in "Secrets of Cold War Technology". And I have to say I'm completely blown away by it. This is my first time I went deep into teslian experiments but WTH is this . Due to the lack of any diagrams I'm left with my imagination. The experiment where he used a coil and saw a white mist going over the the coil like wind over a car in a wind tunnel sounds and probably looks astonishing.

I googled this very profound discovery but I found nothing. I want to know and see MORE much MORE. According to this book Tesla ditched high frequency/voltage systems in favor of this. He apparently saw it even as a failure. As these amazing experiments where purely impulse based.

I'm still reading on.

After reading many times Tesla lectures I'd like to state that even with AC current high frequency high potential he was able to present quite astonishing and similar effects.It seems that to generate is is only require HIGHLY REPETITIVE SITUATION related to plasma generation, be it exact oscillation or abruptly stopped discharge.

Don't you think it's like stirring with a spoon inside a sticky fluid ? I STILL STATE that it's all because Earth magnetic field IS INVOLVED in every electric circuit operation.

[broli]

After finishing this chapter I should look into those. I just found it strange that there's not a recorded experiment of this phenomena. This book mentions Eric Dollard a few times in making successful replications.

[Aaron]

high voltage phenomena

There are a few people I know that have exploded wires. Basically a capacitive discharge into a very thin wire. Probalby a good idea to shield it with plexiglass or something but supposedly that won't stop the radiant sock waves emitting from it.

Anyway, here is a pic showing the phenomena of light emitting from a coil and in Secrets of Cold War Technology...discusses how the light could fill a room and make cold or warm breezes, etc...

[broli]

Yes that and supposedly hard to get on film which is mysterious. Has anyone on this forum had that effect or experience the shockwaves? The book also states how at some experiment Tesla, his assistants and a nearby tree where all engulfed by this light.

Certain experiments are so deep into this on this forum. But I have found none so far that show what seems to be the first thing you experience while experimenting with radiant energy.

[Guest]

Broli i totally agree with you, if we could retest Tesla's original research and properly document it, who knows how much progress we would make. Tesla was one of the first to discover radiant energy so we should learn from his experiences firsthand.

[Shamus]

FWIW, I believe Peter Lindemann did some of these Tesla experiments with another colleague. Perhaps he'd be willing to chime in here and let us know?

[broli]

It seems that to generate is is only require HIGHLY REPETITIVE SITUATION related to plasma generation, be it exact oscillation or abruptly stopped discharge.

This is what Gerry Vassilatos says in his book.

Most researchers and engineers are fixed in their view of Nikola Tesla and his discoveries. They seem curiously rigidified in the thought that his only realm of experimental developments laid in alternating current electricity. This is an erroneous conception which careful patent study reveals. Few recognize the documented facts that, after his work with alternating currents was completed, Tesla switched over completely to the study of impulse currents. His patents from this period to the end of his career are filled with the terminology equated with electrical impulses alone.

I haven't studied Tesla patents but alternating current and its inherit sinusoidal nature can't provide these intense impulses which are spoken of. From what I read so far Tesla didn't use AC at all for this experiment. AC is only introduced when transforming radiant energy back to electricity I believe. Which is a much later stadium where he found out a use for this new thing he discovered.

[boguslaw]

[Guest]

I think it would be interesting if someone here could try a few disruptive discharge tests on various samples of wire, with resistive loads, noting that is must be high frequency pulsed DC.

[boguslaw]

Look here and compare the effects of intense current which seems to produce similar (but different!) arc : The Turn Of The Century Electrotherapy Museum Tesla Library

People think wrongly, it is not the same. How Tesla could pass naked hand into such arc ? This is completely different phenomena and is detailed described in Tesla lecture. His noted 7 (!) stages of arc in spark gap, final one being like St Elmo's fire . There is no current in Tesla white misty flame.

[broli]

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[broli]

[lighty]

How Tesla could pass naked hand into such arc ?

Where did you get that info?