The Great Global Warming Swindle

[BroMikey]

@Bromikey

I wish you well Bromikey and this thread has been interesting, it has taught me many things about people. I would agree what we say means little...it is what we do.

Good luck my friend

AC

Good to hear Sir, I reserve the right to challenge you on all points.
We all have weaknesses, It's no problem. I understand you
so I rip on you more than most. We all got troubles, forget it, it's nothin

[rickoff]

Something to consider:

Here's a well thought out article written by a chemistry expert, explaining why CO2 cannot possibly cause global warming. As the article points out,

"it makes sense to ask the question – if the ocean were to be heated by ‘greenhouse warming’ of the atmosphere, how hot would the air have to get? If the entire ocean is heated by 1˚C, how much would the air have to be heated by to contain enough heat to do the job?


Well, unfortunately for every ton of water there is only a kilogram of air. Taking into account the relative heat capacities and absolute masses, we arrive at the astonishing figure of 4,000˚C.


That is, if we wanted to heat the entire ocean by 1˚C, and wanted to do it by heating the air above it, we’d have to heat the air to about 4,000˚C hotter than the water."
--------------------------------------


Even though the thought of being able to heat the air to such an extreme is an absurdity in and of itself, the author then points out that since the air is above the water [and since everyone would agree that hot air rises] the hot air would have very little effect upon water below the surface of the ocean.

Ocean water can warm, but when it does it is not the result of mankind's meddling through increased CO2 levels causing a greenhouse gas effect. Rather, it is because of increases in the amount of solar energy reaching our planet, just as happens each year due to a change in seasons from winter to summer - and is something that is beyond man's ability to control. Thus, any proposed plan that would supposedly limit or prevent global warming is merely a hoax at best, and a terrible hoax at worst if the consequences of implementing such a plan cause harm to those who, it is claimed, would be the so-called benefactors of such a plan.

Click this link to read the full article:
Chemistry Expert: Carbon Dioxide can’t cause Global Warming

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Not so well writen

The article was suposed to have been written by a chemist, well not so well thought out, it is full of errors.

I will agree that it is not only CO2 that is causing global warming, but oh yes the earth is warming ATM, weather conditions have been changing, earthquakes are on the rise, volcanos are more prone to erupting, loss of deep ice at the poles, higher air temperatures for longer periods, huge weather swings causing very dry or very wet conditions.

We need CO2 because all plant life lives on it and gives us back clean O2 for us to breath. The world is a very finely balanced place, start changing the balance and things will change, so what have we changed to cause this???

There is a very long list, I will start it, others can continue it

Over population
Chemical contamination
Deforestation
Fracking
Bad waste disposal
21st century waring
Oil drilling disasters
Over fishing the sea and biological manipulation of the food chain on land


Regards

Mike

[Ufopolitics]

An Expert...Really?

Here's a well thought out article written by a chemistry expert, explaining why CO2 cannot possibly cause global warming. As the article points out,

"it makes sense to ask the question – if the ocean were to be heated by ‘greenhouse warming’ of the atmosphere, how hot would the air have to get? If the entire ocean is heated by 1˚C, how much would the air have to be heated by to contain enough heat to do the job?


Well, unfortunately for every ton of water there is only a kilogram of air. Taking into account the relative heat capacities and absolute masses, we arrive at the astonishing figure of 4,000˚C.


That is, if we wanted to heat the entire ocean by 1˚C, and wanted to do it by heating the air above it, we’d have to heat the air to about 4,000˚C hotter than the water."
--------------------------------------


Even though the thought of being able to heat the air to such an extreme is an absurdity in and of itself, the author then points out that since the air is above the water [and since everyone would agree that hot air rises] the hot air would have very little effect upon water below the surface of the ocean.

Ocean water can warm, but when it does it is not the result of mankind's meddling through increased CO2 levels causing a greenhouse gas effect. Rather, it is because of increases in the amount of solar energy reaching our planet, just as happens each year due to a change in seasons from winter to summer - and is something that is beyond man's ability to control. Thus, any proposed plan that would supposedly limit or prevent global warming is merely a hoax at best, and a terrible hoax at worst if the consequences of implementing such a plan cause harm to those who, it is claimed, would be the so-called benefactors of such a plan.

Click this link to read the full article:
Chemistry Expert: Carbon Dioxide can’t cause Global Warming

Mr Mark Imisides have a site to counsel Housewifes about best cleaners in the Market...:

[IMG][/IMG]


Now He is "running for Office"...so he is trying to get involved with all sheeple who thinks "every thing is just fine...there is NO GLOBAL WARMING...AT ALL"

Maybe Mr Imisides Political Campaign is being FUNDED by some OIL CARTEL somewhere in Australia...who knows?

Bottom line...Is he really a "Chemist Expert" in the HUGE Global situation we have?

Absolutely NOT!!

So, Mark...keep showing the housewife's better cleaners for their dishwashing machines...that's what you do best!!...And leave the GLOBAL WARMING SITUATION for the Real Experts and even then, let's make sure they are not being bought out.


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

The article was suposed to have been written by a chemist, well not so well thought out, it is full of errors.

I will agree that it is not only CO2 that is causing global warming, but oh yes the earth is warming ATM, weather conditions have been changing, earthquakes are on the rise, volcanos are more prone to erupting, loss of deep ice at the poles, higher air temperatures for longer periods, huge weather swings causing very dry or very wet conditions.

We need CO2 because all plant life lives on it and gives us back clean O2 for us to breath. The world is a very finely balanced place, start changing the balance and things will change, so what have we changed to cause this???

There is a very long list, I will start it, others can continue it

Over population
Chemical contamination
Deforestation
Fracking
Bad waste disposal
21st century waring
Oil drilling disasters
Over fishing the sea and biological manipulation of the food chain on land


Regards

Mike

Hello Mike!!

Could not put it better than you did above!!, excellent post!

Problem is...it is NOT just related to CO2 BS...CO2 I drink it all the time in a Coca Cola Soda Can ...then I burp it most out...

Thing is...All FARTING MACHINES, which is our only means of transportation on this primitive Planet, which is completely RIDICULOUS...FART NOT ONLY CO2...But LETHAL HYDROCARBONS GALORE...which Most "Expert Chemists" who could brake down all of them and handle it on a HUGE list...are under direct payroll of OIL CARTELS...very carefully and well handled...and then who will?

The Experiment is SO SIMPLE:

Turn On a Home Generator and put it on your bedroom...get some ear plugs and drink a good, strong sleeping pill...Have someone watch you with some REMOTE pulse reading (yeah, because if that person is with you in the room...He will die as well)...and then before an hour has gone you will be in an Emergency Room -if lucky enough- to be assisted with massive brain and heart failure...


SIMPLE EXPERIMENT..

You wanna try it?...By all means go ahead, do it!...And You don't need to be no "Expert Chemist" to make it!!

Now was that farting generator exhausting only the same CO2 that we drink on a Soda Can?

Of course not, got to be VERY STUPID to think that way!!


Just looking at the REAL FACTS about our Globe...we can see Polar Caps almost gone...see the degradation over the last fifty (50) years.

Now where there was normal cold temps...is boiling hot...Tropics are burning...Forest Fires, Volcanos which were "sleeping" are waking up...

Now Tropical Thunderstorms "Season" had to be expanded ...how many months now?

I really hate stupid people...stupid sheeples who think "every thing is just fine"...BS!!!

But some just maybe working for OIL CARTELS as well...after all they got all the Federal Reserve Funds they have ever printed...since they also own that "Printing Paper Factory"!


Thanks for your post Mike...sorry about the rant...NOT directed to You my friend!!




Ufopolitics

[aljhoa]

geoengineering
water vapor vs carbon dioxide

Al

[The Magician]

Chemistry Expert: Carbon Dioxide can’t cause Global Warming

In a nutshell, water takes a lot of energy to heat up, and air doesn’t contain much. In fact, on a volume/volume basis, the ratio of heat capacities is about 3300 to 1. This means that to heat 1 litre of water by 1˚C it would take 3300 litres of air that was 2˚C hotter, or 1 litre of air that was about 3300˚C hotter!

This shouldn’t surprise anyone. If you ran a cold bath and then tried to heat it by putting a dozen heaters in the room, does anyone believe that the water would ever get hot?

This is a bad comparison because the water absorbs energy from Sunlight then the greenhouse gasses prevent the heat from being radiated away at night. Carbon dioxide (C02), has a relative insulation value 65% greater than air so more heat is retained. I don't need to be a Chemistry Expert to understand how
a greenhouse works, sunlight heats stuff up and the insulation keeps the heat in. I think they teach this in Grade 4 or 5 if I remember correctly.

[rickoff]

I see that my post about chemistry expert Dr Mark Imisides is being challenged, and that really doesn't surprise me. After all, anyone who doesn't swallow what the IPCC claims is "settled science" regarding global warming and climate change is automatically labeled a "denier" rather than being respectfully acknowledged as someone who has come to a different conclusion based upon the scientific evidence of the matter. Well, there are plenty of reputable scientists who refute the junk science offered by the IPCC, and Dr Mark Imisides is just one of them. Climate change alarmists would have us believe that there is a broad consensus among scientists, and that "deniers" are in a very small minority. That in itself is actually a huge lie, as the "broad consensus" only accounts for about 79 scientists. Perhaps those here who parrot statements made by these politically oriented climate scientists are unaware that 31,487 scientists (over 9,000 of which have Phd's) have signed a statement rejecting the conclusions offered by climate alarmists. The statement reads as follows:

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing, or will, in the foreseeable future cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

For more on the above statement, see this video.

Getting back to Dr Mark Imisides, though it may seem like fun to show a photo of him holding some household chemical cleaning products in his hands as though that photo somehow discredits him is absurd. First of all, Dr Imisides holds a Phd in chemistry, so when it comes to chemicals and chemical reactions, he knows what he is talking about. Secondly, the photo comes from an Australian TV program in which Imisides took the name Dr Chemical and warned consumers of the false claims made by companies regarding supermarket cleaning products. That's a good thing to have done, right?

Anyways, Dr Imisides has also been making an effort to educate Australians about the false narrative concerning carbon dioxide. To point out how absurd the Australian government's proposed spending of $10 billion by 2020 to cut Australia's carbon dioxide emissions by 5 percent actually is, Dr Imisides says the following:

[atmospheric] CO2 concentration is about 400 ppm. In percentage terms, that is 0.04%. Of that, about 3% is man-made. Of that, 1.3% comes from Australia. And our government wants to reduce emissions by 5% at a cost of about $10 billion by 2020 (I’m unable to find exact figures). In other words, we are going to spend $10 billion to cut CO2 concentration by 5% of 1.3% of 3% of 0.04%. That works out to roughly a change of one part in 120 million. The effect that this will have on global temperature is 0.0038° C.
And here’s the point – these are the IPCC calculations. (You could mention that these calculations are based on computer models that have already been shown to overestimate the influence of CO2, but let’s not confuse things).
In this kind of environment I like to resolve the issue into an indisputable fact and say so. So you could say something like 'it is a statement of fact that the government’s direct action policy will change global temperatures by an amount so small that it can’t even be measured.'
This is a point that most non-scientists will not understand. Some things can be measured down to very small numbers (like mass and distance), but temperature is not one of them. The reason is simply that the technology does not exist, mainly because there is no need for it. I’ve seen temperature measured down to the second decimal point, but that’s it. Nothing, but nothing has a stable temperature below that point.

I'll leave you with some additional facts to ponder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICGal_8qI8c

[rickoff]

Judicial Watch files FOIA lawsuit seeking climate collusion communications

Judicial Watch, a government watchdog group, has filed a FOIA lawsuit looking for e-mails and other communications records showing collusion between John Holdren (former director of Obama’s Office of Science and Technology Policy) and Tom Karl, the former head of the climate-data program at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Karl wrote a 2015 report attempting to disprove the then 15 year pause in global warming, and submitted the report shortly before the Paris Climate Connference, saying that, "that the rate of warming over the first 15 years of this century has, in fact, been as fast or faster than that seen over the last half of the 20th century.” This February, John Bates, a retired former head of NOAA’s climate-data archive, wrote a lengthy exposé detailing misconduct at NOAA related to the report. According to a Judicial Watch article, regarding this exposé:

"The allegations included using inappropriately 'corrected' datasets, violating agency protocol on data review, and failing to archive the data. In the most damning allegation, Bates said: 'In every aspect of the preparation and release of the datasets . . . we find Tom Karl’s thumb on the scale pushing for, and often insisting on, decisions that maximize warming and minimize documentation.' (You can read more about Bates’ allegations here and a subsequent smear campaign by the scientific establishment here.)"

Read more at: Judicial Watch Lawsuit Seeks Obama White House Records on Controversial Global-Warming Report | National Review

[rickoff]

The truth about "extreme weather" events.

There has been a lot of climate alarmism hype claiming that climate change and global warming is causing an upsurge in extreme weather events, including hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons, and cyclones, which are all the same weather phenomenon and are named differently only because of location. Sadly for the climate change alarmist narrative, NOAA released research that found “it is premature to conclude that human activities – and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming – have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.” This at the same time that data revealed the Southern Hemisphere just had its quietest hurricane/cyclone year on record.

[rickoff]

The long Maine winter

Here's an interesting tidbit. There were record snowfalls here in Maine in 2016/2017, and many places saw as much as 72 inches fall within just a 10 day period. There is still snow in the woods where I live, and in northern Maine the average ground cover was over 12 inches until April 11th. It had been over 12 inches continuously since late November, which set an all-time record. We Mainers are glad to see a little bit of warming finally coming our way after this long winter cold spell. No global warming here, lol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/04/12/caribou-maine-ends-record-crushing-132-day-streak-with-a-foot-of-snow-on-the-ground/?utm_term=.789336dc91e8

[BroMikey]

Blood Suckers Uncovered and Devested

Trump pulls the plug on global climate swindle.

Here he is rubbing it in.The swamp is running naked with worry
that THEY won't be able to get the easy money off the backs
of hard working USA blue collar workers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzlNUsNjWrw

------------------------------------------------------

[artoj]

Perspective on Co2

I will need some more precision on these percentages, any help on my figures would be appreciated?. Here is my article re-posted here, regards Arto.

Here is a reasonably accurate volumetric equivalence for man made Co2, which in the true scale of natures processes is an insignificant amount and of no concern to our future, cows fart far more green houses gases than mankind makes. Pollution of our food and local environment should be of more concern than a natural gas that is required for our living system. Historically the Earth has had many more times the Co2 than the present by many factors of scaling.

[Ufopolitics]

...The "Long Maine Winter" and..."lol"

Yeah, right...it has been a heck of a long winter right?

Sure...watch what is providing that "intense" cold weather, as increasing its rate in a "per year basis"...:

[IMG][/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG]

Now a more recent image (from NASA)

[IMG][/IMG]

Isn't it VERY OBVIOUS, PEOPLE, that We are LOOSING ICE along the years MASSIVELY??...or are you ALL PEOPLE BLIND?!!

Of course you are gonna have HECK OF WINTERS...No "Global Warming here and "lol"??...of course not...wait till "Your North Cap" is ALL gone...Then, let me watch your laugh melts down over EXTREME HEAT , MUCH WORST than the middle of African Desert at noon time.

__________________________________________________ _______________________________

THEN...THE WAY THEY "PAINT IT" ALL "SO GREEN"...

NOW...about EVEN the wording seems SO FREAKING NAIVE, AND SO NICELY "PUT TOGETHER" AND SO "OK" AND SO COOL!!...:

"HUMAN ACTIVITIES"....and..."GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS"...I really laugh out loud at this "So Nice WORDING"...

IT IS NOT "HUMAN ACTIVITIES"...Human "activities" sounds like the Human Body needs to defecate as an "Activity" every certain hours of digestion...

NOPE, it is STRICTLY OIL, GAS AND COAL "ACTIVITIES" ABOUT BURNING GLOBALLY AND EVERYWHERE POSSIBLE...SO IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY AN OIL BASED CORPORATIONS "ACTIVITIES"

AND ALSO...NOPE, it is NOT A "GREENHOUSE GAS"...It is a STINKING, BLACK AND DENSE, HEAVY POLLUTING SMOKE WHICH "LINGERS" AMONG US ALL...AND IT IS COMPLETELY NON BREATHABLE FREAKING EMISSIONS!!!


But then ALL THE SHEEPLE KEEP USING THIS AWKWARD VOCABULARY...so, Psychologically does not cause a "Panic Reaction" and so...don't look as important...

__________________________________________________ _______________________________

And like I wrote B4...It is NOT JUST ABOUT CO2...

IT IS MAINLY ALL THE NICE "ZOOMBIE" MIX OF BAZOOKA BURNT HYDROCARBONS COCKTAIL MOLOTOV, DERIVATIVE FROM MASSIVE AND GLOBALLY OIL-GAS-COAL BURNING IN EVERY INCH OF THIS PLANET!!!

Style type Cavern Men did to "warm up" on a fire...all naked under a cold planet...


I really can NOT BELIEVE...How many Intelligent Minds gather here...reunited to post so much non sense...REALLY!!


And am sorry...excuse My bluntness, but I can NOT be just quiet "and Cool" over such SERIOUS ISSUE, which ALL OIL CARTELS AND DERIVATED INDUSTRIES have been trying to COVER UP with MASSIVE INVESTMENTS...SAME WAY THEY HAVE "INVESTED" SO MUCH, TO COVER UP FREE ENERGY FOR OVER 200 YEARS...


Sincerely


Ufopolitics

[BroMikey]

My problem is that I can not believe nor do I trust these people
who are manipulating the data. Since THEY (Those who control the
agenda) have been in power (entrenched) for generations then it
stands to reason that THEY are making the data fit THEIR purposes.

Here is a prime example. Polar bears slipping off icebergs are fun but
not conclusive. In this example we can see how cycles and seasons
can be used to trick the unsuspecting.

I'm right and that is all there is to it.










---------------------------------------------------------