The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Aaron]

letterhere. The report was disclosed by Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) at a Tuesday afternoon press conference in which he said that the report was not considered by EPA in reaching its Monday determination.

Whole article here...
The EPA's 'Climategate' - HUMAN EVENTS

[Peter Lindemann]

The Latest from BBC (Dec-09-09)

Aaron,

Awesome posts! Keep it up. This thread is becoming an amazing "public record" on this issue, as I had hoped.

Everyone,

Here is the latest story on the Climate Conference, as reported on BBC:

BBC News - Developing countries split over climate measures

Enjoy,
Peter

[Aaron]

ask a question

At the bottom of the bbc article Peter just posted, there is a form
where you can ask a question to the attendees at the meeting. I submitted a
question/comment/suggestion a minute ago.

BBC News - Developing countries split over climate measures

[Aaron]

live streaming video from copenhagen?

Has anyone found a LIVE VIDEO streaming site?

I'm sure there are a few people around the globe that would like
to see it.

[Joit]

I only go angry, when i think about, what i should ask them.
Maybe, why they hiding behind her Desks, and judge against, what Peoples tell and want?

Here is a livestream, but i am not sure, if its straight Live,
but you can ask Questions there too
OneClimate.net is a new social networking space for sharing ideas and experiences on climate change.

[Cloxxki]

I posted a question in my best British accent.

Is it just me, or are the students of 2009 a bunch of slackers? I know when I was 18, we'd go to parliament over anything. We all remember the Chinese student handling a plastic bag staring down a tank.
Is it the internet age, virtual reality? THis all ain't happening, if it's not streaming from our X-Box's, and not sending us sms's?

The only thing I fear more than what this treaty means, is the effects of the world population standing to understand it. It might light unarmed wars. The over-payers against the over-polluters. Like the motive matters at all.

The way I see it, developing countries are polluting the oceans and soil most, and the rich are polluting the air. Neither seems to be able to drag earth out of it's ice-age and interglacial jojo.
Glaciers start melting some time in a interglacial. Even global temperatures may show such an effect. Stone-age or peak oil. No tax is going to vere it either way.

[rickoff]

Copenhagen web

Has anyone found a LIVE VIDEO streaming site?

This one seems to work: UNFCCC Webcast: Mainpage

There are oval live link icons that will either say "Live" or "Not Live" depending upon whether or not a webcast is currently being broadcast, and also a list, down below, of discussions that have already taken place, and which can be viewed on-demand. Times are listed in CET, which I assume is Central European Time.

Today's US Delegation conference can be seen here: COP 15 on-demand webcast


Best 2 U,

Rick

[Aaron]

a fair shake...

African nations angry because the "leaders" want to take advantage of
them.
YouTube - Protests in Copenhagen climate talks over leaked text

YouTube - Crisis at climate talks

Global warming or not, anyone that believes the purpose of the conference
is to reduce global warming is living in fantasy land. It is all about money
always when anything global is shoved down our throats. It is totally
and completely obvious that the objective is to give more power to
rich countries while DEPOWERING poor countries even more. Nothing but
making a bigger spread between the rich and poor, like always, and
to give the WORLD BANK control of all this money and oversight? That is
like making Hitler the global dictator, which the world bank is already
practically in that position and has caused more hell and torment causing
poverty, death and destruction in third world countries all over the globe.
Loan them money and then suck their tax money out of their country to
pay it back leaving them broke broke broke.

H1N1 flu scam, Copenhagen, AIDS scam... etc... follow the money.

The great carbon credit con: the 'eco' companies causing pollution | Mail Online

These countries are manipulated the way Americans are about being
a democrat or republican. The options are given to them through the
propaganda and are asked to choose...not a real choice.

They are arguing they want developed countries to have more limits
on their emissions.... they have them arguing in a way that they agree
with the co2 scam. The argument isn't about is global warming from
man-made co2 or not it is about how much they can emit so they can
be given a fair shake like the rich countries.

No matter which way they go, it benefits the wealthy countries to have
any underdeveloped country limit their growth. It is a crime against
humanity.

There isn't any real profit in admitting the truth that the sun is the
biggest contributor to any warming...and what are we supposed to do
about that?

What would the global "leaders" propose as a solution? Tax any country
based on how much radiation hits its ground? Pay tax or fines for something
that they're not responsible for. And what to do with the money?

I have an idea, maybe we can spray an aerosol mixture
in the sky and maybe that will block some of the radiation and the
tax money pays for the aluminum oxide and whatever else...
wait...that's already been done, never mind...lol

People would feel helpless if they knew the truth that it is natural and is
going to happen with or without us - while the polar bears are
cannibalistic because their population is getting out of hand and
is at record highs...

Industry needs an incentive that is a win-win-win all the way around
to reduce pollution... if it reduces pollution, while at the same time
increasing profits and production...it would be shooting themselves in
the foot by not doing it...it is crazy not to take advantage of it.

Whether anyone believes in global warming or not... I don't see how
anyone would argue against a solution that meets that criteria.

There is no need to sign away our freedom for security... just about the
most consistent way throughout history to enslave mankind.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin

Let us protect you from the boogyman treaty.... it is all about that.

Copenhagen conference: The next step to global governance

If Obama signs the treaty, it is 100% absolute TREASON against the
united states. The UN has ZERO business taxing Americans inside the
united states.

There is a lot of brainwashing that has already been done to steer
industry and others away from a lot of "solutions" meaning they've been
in the box that everything is cost prohibitive. And of course the big
power companies don't want self-sustainability anyway.

What is happening is absolute total proof that mass hypnosis works...



No climate-change transparency - Washington Times

[Aaron]

Texas Governor asks EPA for retraction

Welcome to the Office of the Governor - Rick Perry

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Press Releases - Gov. Perry Urges EPA to Withdraw Ruling on Danger of Carbon Dioxideletterhere. The report was disclosed by Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) at a Tuesday afternoon press conference in which he said that the report was not considered by EPA in reaching its Monday determination.

Whole article here...
The EPA's 'Climategate' - HUMAN EVENTS

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[Aaron]

Lisa Jackson EPA

In case anyone wants to contact Lisa Jackson of the EPA
for jumping the gun and being the judge and jury for deciding
for all Americans that co2 is a pollutant, here is her info:


Last Name First Name Middle Name Site Code Site Description Jackson Lisa
HQ HEADQUARTERS

USEPA Headquarters
Ariel Rios Building
1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, N. W.
Mail Code: 1101A
Washington, DC 20460


Office Phone - Extension Email 202-564-4700 [email protected]

The epa page on the "endangerment report" is here:
Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases under the Clean Air Act | Regulatory Initiatives | Climate Change | U.S. EPA

Besides Texas, Kansas seems up at arms about this bogus epa ruling.
Arrogant EPA denies 'Climategate' — plans to push past Senate for 'cap and tax' — Kansas Liberty

Lisa Jackson should be forced to resign for defrauding the American
public.

[Aaron]

There Is No Consensus

Over 31,000 scientists sign petition against the global warming scam.

Home - Global Warming Petition Project

If you are a credentialed scientist and want to sign this petition,
go to the site and you'll see the link. You can see the names of
who signed by clicking on the letters in the left column.

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What Consensus? Public, Scientists Doubt Climate Crisis

[rickoff]

It's a Climate-Gate Christmas

A break from the seriousness of the matter to poke a bit of fun at Climate-Gate:

YouTube - It's A Climategate Christmas

[lamare]

They are arguing they want developed countries to have more limits
on their emissions.... they have them arguing in a way that they agree
with the co2 scam. The argument isn't about is global warming from
man-made co2 or not it is about how much they can emit so they can
be given a fair shake like the rich countries.

No matter which way they go, it benefits the wealthy countries to have
any underdeveloped country limit their growth. It is a crime against
humanity.

You are so right, Aaron. If you want a broader picture and see what 'they' are doing to your and our economy, take a look at LaRouchePAC . Mr. LaRouche's story is a lot more realistic than what we are being told in the mass media.

Also very interesting, IMHO, is this document (also by LaRouche) that shows how green-fascism has been raping the whole continent of Afrika for years and years under the guide of "environmental protection": http://www.tuks.nl/docs/EIR__The_com...ndsor__WWF.pdf

I found this very shocking to read, especially since I'm Dutch and the Dutch always had a large influence in the WWF...


LaRouche also published an article by Jacques Cheminade, which is very critical about Copenhagen:
Copenhagen: The Crime of Mr. Sarkozy | LaRouchePAC

it's a crime against the future of humanity. Whether he is unaware aware of it and not the only one to commit such a crime makes it no less serious, since he is enlisting France under the banner of a policy devoted to depopulating the planet and to scandalous financial trading on the markets of greenhouse gas emission quotas. At a time in history, when great financiers of the City of London and Wall Street are speculating on what we breathe, what we eat, and on our very lives themselves, via securitized life insurance contracts, we in France are making the choice of "collaboration" [as French traitors, or "collabos," did with the Nazi occupiers]. Morally, economically and politically, this is utterly unacceptable.

Limiting births is actually presented as a "remedy" to the climate threat, invented to justify a Malthusian policy. This threat had been forged from within the Margaret Thatcher crowd, and the revelation of the biased and manipulated work at the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU), which inspired the IPCC report, gives the plan away. It was on the basis of that plan, that the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) is calling for what it has christened "demographic regulation." The reality behind this label is that putting all the brakes on carbon dioxide emissions will entail the inability to feed and develop future human beings, and drive the Earth's carrying capacity to below 2 billion inhabitants. That is what the Jonathan Porritts and Paul Ehrlichs desire, and the shared objectives of the Gordon Brown and Barack Obama crowd. The fact that we Frenchmen should be spearheading their struggle against the interest of all the people and nations of the South, is unacceptable.

French green guru Nicolas Hulot, in his film "Titanic Syndrome," says out loud what others only hint at: "The days of the world as we know it have been counted... if we all, whether rich or poor, do not change immediately our behavior to 'do better with less' and put ecology at the heart of our individual and collective decisions, we will inevitably sink." Yes we have read "whether rich or poor," as if we were all guilty. This collective guilt operation aims in reality to cover up the crimes of the speculators and the casino economy which are themselves really what is dragging the world to its ruin. Mr. Sarkozy and France, and those who claim to be the "people of the left," must immediately take their distance from this criminal ideology, expose its consequences, and an exit from the dominant world monetarist system towards an order of state credit and a public sector, restoring to the world its future. It's going to take some courage to expose the mystifiers in the light of truth.

At BlackListed News I found the following interesting articles:

Let the Copenhagen wealth transfer begin - BlackListed News

UK’s richest man could make more than £1bn from carbon trading scheme - BlackListed News


Climategate: Barack Obama's rule by EPA decree is a coup d'etat against Congress, made in Britain – Telegraph Blogs

[Aaron]

control the opposition

Lamare,

The WWF and many other "environmental protection groups" are created
by people within the global banking power cartel. The ultimate for them is
to also have CONTROL OF THE OPPOSITION. That means simply that if you
also own the groups, radio shows, etc... that the opposing view airs its
opinions on, then there really is no opposition at all.

The power, or I should say FORCE, behind the federal reserve control
both the democrats and republicans...another illusion of choice. If you
control not only the opposition but both choices, you give people a warm
fuzzy feeling to people of choice while turning them into slaves.

Rupert Murdoch that owns fox is buddies with George Soros the billionaire
that appears to be some of the money behind Obama. Fox is a republican
right wing propaganda arm and Obama is a democrat? etc...

Bush was the most liberal radical to ever step foot in the white house.
Expanding govt, etc... nothing conservative about anything he did in
8 years...except for maybe not ratifying the Kyoto treaty. I'm sure there
might be one other thing but I can't think of it.

Clear Channel Radio - a strong right wing Bush supporter, etc... owns
Air America Radio, one of the most popular liberal left wing radio shows in
America.

When will people wake up? I actually enjoyed listening to Air America Radio
while Bush was in office but I laugh at the propaganda now that
Obama is in office. It is just a big three-ring-circus of media & political
incest.

So the ones that want mass genocide of the planet control the tree-hugger
groups (I can say that because I'm actually a tree hugging granola eater
lol), so that those groups can serve the purpose of the ones that control
those groups and the ones naive enough to buy into the group dynamics
that divide people (volunteers) are the "walking dead."

It pains me to see good people being taken advantage of on both sides
of the front. For young people to deny global warming caused by co2
simply because they come from a republican family, etc.. that is sickening
to the stomach. And for anyone to believe man made co2 causes global
warming just because their own circle of influence are fairly liberal and
believes it...that is an atrocity on its own. Satan is supposed to have
dominion of this world according to scripture and every day I see more
evidence that I shouldn't argue that viewpoint.

It is nothing but gang mentality. People want to feel part of something
to feel they have a purpose because they haven't been taught how to
find purpose in their own lives. Instead, they fall prey to groups and
organizations that feed on their innermost needs and desires to be
part of something so they can make a difference. They get used and
abused and are too hypnotized to recognize reality anymore.

People that supported Hitler and Mao thought they were doing the right
thing. People of this generation... we cannot let the future look back at
the current time and see that a bunch of people also thought they
were just "doing the right thing." People simply need to learn how to think.

If things go down that path, this history won't even be available to those
in the future anyway.

Just because thoughts are going thru people's heads, that isn't the
same thing as thinking.

Anyway, today the Polish environmental secretary resigns...

And Obama's SELF PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST green job czar Van Jones
resigned a couple months ago?? I didn't even hear about it!

There is profanity for anyone that may be offended:
YouTube - CNN: Van Jones Controversy (FINALLY the media shows our video!)
YouTube - Van Jones Proclaims That Obama Will Not Only Save You But Will Say The Whole Wide World
YouTube - Flashback: What Does Nancy Pelosi Think of Van Jones?
White House resignation: Van Jones out: The Swamp

Nancy Pelosi, Valierie Jarrett - a white house advisor????
speaks so highly of van jones a know communist?

Van Jones is slammed for signing a petition about believing the Bush
administration was behind or covering up the truth about 911?
He tries to weasel out of that..but I'm for that one because there
is absolutely irrefutable evidence of a 9/11 cover up and 60% of the
9/11 commission admitted they were lied to but decided to tell the
lies in their report to be consistent with the white house story, oh well...

In either case, he is a self proclaimed communist and if you research
this guy, is really a joke and he advised Obama? What does that say
about the character of Obama and what Obama's mindset is and why
would the FBI background check let a communist get into a position
to advise the "president"? Sickening...

Anyway, as the ancient Chinese proverb goes:
"May you live in interesting times"
I don't think they saw these times coming!

[Joit]

Right now it seems there are some Livestreams, what work.
Europe Time zone even.

But it all looks just such a ridicoulus Show.
ie, control the Temperatur from Earth +-2C, or pay. Want they be allmighty gods or wish to be?