The Great Global Warming Swindle

[nilrehob]

A very interesting thread indeed.
I have probably missed it, its probably here somewhere in the thread,
but the interesting question is:

Who benefits from creating a global warming movement?

/Hob

[TRON]

RE: who benefits...

Watch near the end of the video "the obama deception" a film online from prisonplanet.tv available a googlevideos... if they haven't squashed it yet...



and you will learn just how much of your little life is controlled by the banking elite.. it is in THEIR best interest to TAX us... and the basis of these taxes? to prevent us from driving too much, from using plastic bags at the grocery store, from using biodeisel made at home... on and on it goes... hundreds of new personal and corporate taxes designed to "curb" greenhouse gas production... or so they say... when the real intention is to shift the wealth away from common citizens and LOWER the standard of living... suppression of the right to become wealthy... ever hear about people trying to LIMIT how much money an individual can earn?

its along those lines... i haven't quite figured out how the extra tax revenue makes it into the hands of the Bilderberg group or the Trilateral commission just yet, but if we search i think we will discover some pork in those new laws for these special interests... hidden inside of other unrelated legislation where people usually never look!

thats the old shell game folks, and were the dupes who keep giving them the money!

PS:
and who the %^&$ is stupid enough to give Barry Soetoro a Nobel peace prize... boy these liberal idiots really love this puppet! more charades folks... designed to keep the sheeple ignorant of what is really going on behind the scenes

[Peter Lindemann]

Please, No Politics Here

Watch near the end of the video "the obama deception" a film online from prisonplanet.tv available a googlevideos... if they haven't squashed it yet...

and you will learn just how much of your little life is controlled by the banking elite.. it is in THEIR best interest to TAX us... and the basis of these taxes? to prevent us from driving too much, from using plastic bags at the grocery store, from using biodeisel made at home... on and on it goes... hundreds of new personal and corporate taxes designed to "curb" greenhouse gas production... or so they say... when the real intention is to shift the wealth away from common citizens and LOWER the standard of living... suppression of the right to become wealthy... ever hear about people trying to LIMIT how much money an individual can earn?

its along those lines... i haven't quite figured out how the extra tax revenue makes it into the hands of the Bilderberg group or the Trilateral commission just yet, but if we search i think we will discover some pork in those new laws for these special interests... hidden inside of other unrelated legislation where people usually never look!

thats the old shell game folks, and were the dupes who keep giving them the money!

PS:
and who the %^&$ is stupid enough to give Barry Soetoro a Nobel peace prize... boy these liberal idiots really love this puppet! more charades folks... designed to keep the sheeple ignorant of what is really going on behind the scenes

TRON,

This thread is about CLIMATE SCIENCE. Please start a different thread if you wish to discuss the POLITICAL or RELIGIOUS implications of these issues. Thank you.

Peter

[Peter Lindemann]

Early Winter

Woke up this morning to this. I don't think global warming is in my neck of the woods.

Dear Bits

YES. It was 22F (-5C) last night, here in Spokane Washington. No precipitation, but a record cold temperature for this date. Tonight is due to be colder. My brother, who lives in Fort Collins, Colorado, reported SNOW last night, as well. It looks like a wide area of the country is about to get an early taste of Winter.

Peter

[nilrehob]

TRON,

This thread is about CLIMATE SCIENCE. Please start a different thread if you wish to discuss the POLITICAL or RELIGIOUS implications of these issues. Thank you.

Peter

If I narrow my question it might still fit within this thread:
Who benefits economically from creating a global warming movement?

And i might add that we got snow here two weeks ago, and its still on the ground.
The first snow that doesn't go away within a day or two usually arrives precisely (no kidding) at halloween.

/Hob

[Inquorate]

Slushy hail

2 days ago in cherrybrook in north sydney, australia, it hailed slushy snow. For half an hour, that's all.

BUT

It's SPRING!

Wtf?!

[ashtweth]

HOT as a rattles snakes Tennis shoes here tho


Every capital city in Australia exceeded its average maximum temperature for August in 2009 with Brisbane recording its warmest August maximum temperature since records began. Sydney recorded its 2nd warmest August since records began in 1859. According to the Bureau of Meteorology it was the warmest August on record for Australia

Climate Change Research Centre (CCRC) - University of New South Wales - Australia

I am up here in Brisbane guys, its hot.

[Johan]

90% of the Global Ice seems on the South-Pole

Following this good learn full.

According some Uni's I have spoken and "WIKI" it seems that:

90% of all the Total Global Ice is at the South-Pole located.

The plateau seems more than a 2000 mtr above the ocean around it, with a highest point from more than 4500 mtr above the water.

Summer temp.: -20C
Winter temp.: -70C

Something is going on, only that all that ice is melting in only a few years seems very OD!

Regards, Johan

[ashtweth]

Some places are no doubt COLDER then normal.
but MOST places seem to be HOT sadly.

It certainly seems that way, i know its never been as hot down here. Maybe if its cold some where it has to be hot some where else also. I am not sure, i do hope its balancing out tho.

Ash

[ANTIQUER]

Hi Ash;

Hot as a rattle snakes tennis shoes here tho

Hmmmm? Must be one of them "down under" oddities, ours just wear sun glasses.

Meanwhile, hear in central Florida in the good ole' U.S.A. we have been setting heat records or tying old ones for the last 10 days ( temps. of 90F to 96F, heat index 103F to 115F), while Peter is freezing in Spokane.

It certainly appears climate change at the very least is underway.

Al

[ashtweth]

Hi Al, or i could say hot as a rattle snakes BUTT We have some very strange creatures in Oz, but no rattle snakes i assume they would have a hot butt and tennis shoes on the desert

Yeah climate change alright my friend, but still the science of warming is suspect like Peter has shown. The heat is worse then the cold huh? maybe the heat some where effects the cold elsewhere, i dont know, one thing i do know is that their science is still bunk.

Ash

[Peter Lindemann]

New PESwiki page

Hi Folks,

For those interested in DATA concerning the origins of the "Global Warming" idea and its ultimate goal, I highly recommend looking at this new page at PESwiki, put together by Leslie Pastor.

Site:LRP:Climate Change Myth & The Agenda To Remove The Sovereignty of the United States - PESWiki

Enjoy,

Peter

[ashtweth]

May be of interest

YouTube - WARNING! Goodbye U.S Sovereignty... Hello One World Government !

In October 14th 2009, Lord Christopher Monckton, a noted climate change expert, gave a presentation at Bethel College in St. Paul, MN in which he issued a dire warning regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty which is scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009.

This is the climate expert (Lord Christopher Monckton) that was NOT allowed to testify on Capitol Hill BEFORE the Cap and Trade bill was passed in the House. They allowed Newt Gingrich to speak and Gore --- but this individual was cut the very day he was to speak ----because he knows the Climate Issue is a perpetrated fraud for profits.


(Lord Monckton had come from England to testify, was outside the door and not allowed in. The government had decided what they wanted to hear and did not wish to be confused by FACTS.

[Aaron]

Say No To The Copenhagen Treaty

Thanks Ash, I posted a new thread on that too.

http://www.energeticforum.com/general-discussion/4882-obama-poised-cede-us-sovereignty-claims-british-lord.html

Everyone, whether or not you believe in global warming is irrelevant to the fact that if this Copenhagen Treaty is signed by Obama, it will be one of the greatest steps towards a very dark world.

A global environmental crisis blamed on people as a reason to install a one world communist government was planned and organized before I was ever born. There are no surprises here.

One of the very small amount of things that "president" bush did right was that we never ratified the Kyoto treaty...it would have hurt us worse than $10/gallon gas. Almost difficult to admit he did anything right but that was one of them.

I'm 100% for reducing pollution. If it gets hot...at least I want to breathe clean air and drink clean water. If it turns into an ice age, then I still want to breathe clean air and drink clean water.

It was strongly predicted across the board that the next president...no matter who it is...would try to put us into "compliance."

Please call and write and email all your state representatives asap and shoot down this Copenhagen Treaty now!

The last several presidents have moved swiftly to pass control of the United States to foreign entities. The WHO is supposed to have power and jurisdiction over the US in a pandemic emergency...now Obama is trying to give environmental jurisdiction of the US to a foreign entity. It never ends!

Again, if you're American, put your differences aside...it is irrelevant if global warming is real or not. Being complacent and allowing Obama to sell us out is WRONG. Please call your reps now!

If you're not American, encourage your American friends to get active.

[ashtweth]

Thanks for posting Aaron will do my bit, yup they have been trying to get the NWO for years even before you and i were born. Been researching it for years.

FROG IN THE POT here. This is why we need to work together for self sufficient communities and OPEN SOURCE FREE ENERGY. Updating now.

Ash