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Best Bet is your own solution!

Dont count on gov for your solutions.

Keep on thinking free and concentrate on energy independence for your family and your own good!

"The truth will set you free"

W

[Matthew Jones]

jibbguy, good hear. Sorry if I was harsh.

I have a friend who is Lawyer. Him and me have had discussions about taking schools and research firms supported by the government to court who refuse to promote advancing engineering laws to the level of physics.

I believe that acedemia is the root of the problem. That and where the funding comes from.
If for instance a graduate student was to do his study and publications on an overuntity device and was denide the right to do so with the assistance of the schools facilties, in the face of the energy problem a case could be made that the school was not promoting research and therfore not allowing a student to learn.

There is presedent for such a case.

This might be the one solution that would hit home harder than the lack of research money that would follow. Denial of services has got a long record of being lucrative financially. The biggest problem would be setting them up for the kill. If it could be proven that you intentionally provoked them into such a response then you could risk the case.

And the case would cost lots of money.

Myself, if I was going to spend the money, I would like to be a little more damaging. Build a system that put a good bit of energy on to a small grid. Force the power companies to slow productions and involve local media to the fact that they are at reduced production. "Well then wheres the power coming from?". So someone at the power company would trace the supply down and that system would get seized and the individual would then be arrested for vadilism of some sort. Then the case could go to court under criminal law. How and why would be factors in the case. The info would get out and be documented in the process.

Some other options like purchasing hydrogen mods to help suppliment local governments fuel bill. How many counties now in the states wouldn't like cop cars getting twice or better gas milage. Once thats done or well on its way, power a building with a device. Let the county government take the heat. The advantage to helping the county is obvious but the best part about modifing a county building is you need NO permits, since the county regulates all that.

If it worked out slowly but surely county politicians be State politicians and if they are real good well they go federal before long.

All you need is one good system and little time.

We should maybe start a thread on organizing. We might have enough people here to start an active campaign to get the word out.
Maybe some group type RD on a somthing simple that would make difference, show people who don't understand, clearly what the benifits are.

Just a thought.
Matt

[theremart]

RE: Video

This video is a very clear description of the process that has been hoodwinking American's for years as the same method has been used in many other countries for years.

Colleen Hammond: 1985 Interview with KGB Agent--WOW!

The average person is in denial that this is happening but that is the whole point for them to not even know it is done to them.

By the way, Kucinich is aware of free energy technologies or at least the concept of it. It is bad enough for him politically that he tells the truth about a lot of matters but becoming a "perpetual motion nut" would make it even worse.

This is an excellent video.

We have let our government feed us for the slaughter. The government system rewards those who do not work, and provides a very poor education. Thus this is why private schools are doing so well.

It does seem it has been a plan to make the US more like Russia, and to make Russia more like the US. The Russians KGB are not dumb they are very very sharp cookies.

[Aaron]

expanding education to include the truth

We should maybe start a thread on organizing. We might have enough people here to start an active campaign to get the word out.

Maybe some group type RD on a somthing simple that would make difference, show people who don't understand, clearly what the benifits are.

Hi Matthew,

Please do start a thread on this. Political discussions are welcome here even though it isn't a political forum but it is really about raising awareness and educating people more than anything.

It is an interesting concept to gain support for. Tom Bearden appears to have tried for years to make this science acceptable to the language of conventional physicists and other academia and its been an excruciating challenge.

I believe simply having the distinction in the conversation about open vs closed thermodynamic systems can open the eyes to possibilities of these technologies. Open/Natural systems all around us are over 1.0 COP and they can't be argued with. Even heat pumps are openly rated at 5.0 COP and more so the concepts are valid and accepted even though the mainstream prefers not to make the connections that over 1.0 COP are possible elsewhere...connecting those dots I think are important.

I have a friend here with a degree in physics from Eastern Washington University right next to Spokane and he showed his physics professor a non-ferrous magnet...it picks up copper, brass, gold, etc... His professor started to scribble some math on the board AFTER seeing it work with his own eyes and told him to forget it because it WON'T work! That isn't even an energy technology but clearly represents the mindset of conventional thinking academia...scary! Of course this clearly represents the mindset of conventional thinking in medicine and other fields, where they should be required by law to discuss the real biology and non-invasive methods for reversing various problems.

Do we or ?? lol

More power to you!

[future pather]

From an e-mail I received from Green For All,

"5 Million 'Green Jobs' Will Jumpstart Economy

At Green For All, we are especially excited that Obama has said building a low-carbon, clean-energy economy will be his top priority once he gets to the White House. He has pledged to create 5 million green jobs."

[future pather]

PS On election day there was a pro-McCain e-mail going around here saying Obama had said on Fox News that he wanted to bankrupt the coal industry in PA and OH.

I'm sure he didn't say exactly that. They are probably taking his pledge above and getting carried away.

[Matthew Jones]

No i wouldn't start thread myself I was just fishing to see what the possibilities would look like.
I'm not even really too concerned with changing the mindsets of people. I see too much potential to do good without recognition. And thats just fine with me.

Thanks Aaron
Matt

[ANTIQUER]

KGB plan to destroy America

Hi Aaron.

Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
This video is a very clear description of the process that has been hoodwinking American's for years as the same method has been used in many other countries for years.

Colleen Hammond: 1985 Interview with KGB Agent--WOW!

The average person is in denial that this is happening but that is the whole point for them to not even know it is done to them.

By the way, Kucinich is aware of free energy technologies or at least the concept of it. It is bad enough for him politically that he tells the truth about a lot of matters but becoming a "perpetual motion nut" would make it even worse.

WOW! is right. Everyone should see this. Maybe you should start a separate thread based on the clip?

Al

[rickoff]

Build a system that put a good bit of energy on to a small grid. Force the power companies to slow productions and involve local media to the fact that they are at reduced production. "Well then wheres the power coming from?". So someone at the power company would trace the supply down and that system would get seized and the individual would then be arrested for vadilism of some sort. Then the case could go to court under criminal law. How and why would be factors in the case. The info would get out and be documented in the process.

Matt

I like that basic idea Matt. Then again, if you had the capability to produce that much power, you could start an electric cooperative and produce power to your neighborhood or village at very reasonable rates. The people in your neighborhood, or village, would be the members of the cooperative. I don't know how things work in other states, but here in Maine our electic bills are in two sections. One section is the "power delivery fee," which is what you pay for having power transmission lines to your house being maintained. The other section is the "power generation fee," where you are paying for the actual amount of electric power that you have used. We get to choose the generation provider. Now, if someone could provide electric power cheaply, the word would get out quickly and everyone would choose that provider, which would immediately shut down all the other providers who are burning diesel, gasoline, coal, etc. That would be a very effective way to take out all the producers now wasting resources and polluting air and water.

We also have a law here in Maine that requires the power utility to pay a fair market price for all the excess power that one is able to feed back into the grid, so this isn't something that needs to be done surreptitiously with legal consequences. The utility doesn't really care who they buy power from, and they will keep on making the same amount of income as ever by supplying the "delivery" service. If you feed power into the grid surreptitiously, then the power utility is just getting a lot of free power that they aren't paying for, so their earnings would go up and they would be pleased as punch to have you do that. So you might as well get paid by them for your efforts, and do whatever you want with the income (spend it to buy or build more generation capabilty, share your income by helping others less fortunate, etc.) The bottom line is that you can use the present "system" (which most of us disdain) to accomplish what you want, instead of bucking it all the way.

Just some thoughts from the man in Maine.

Best wishes to all,

Rick

[Vortex]

This video is a very clear description of the process that has been hoodwinking American's for years as the same method has been used in many other countries for years.

Colleen Hammond: 1985 Interview with KGB Agent--WOW!

The average person is in denial that this is happening but that is the whole point for them to not even know it is done to them.

Thank you, and another brick in the wall becomes visible.
It's so hard to see without a pair of those special
sunglasses like in "They Live"
that was only part of the interview.
The entire interview 81 mins is here:
Soviet Subversion of the Free World Press - 1984

Randy

[ashtweth]

Matt the CFR is much like the Bilderberg group, one area of "politics" most people don't know about I don't want to make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, but after putting the following info together, i think i need a trip to Jib's house boat and a stiff drink.

New World Order


Ash

[Aaron]

They Live

Thanks Randy! I'll have to check that out.

They Live is one of my favorite bad-acting films!

But the point is that it certainly is an incredible analogy of the world we live in! I hope everyone gets a chance to see it. It is at most video stores.

Thank you, and another brick in the wall becomes visible.
It's so hard to see without a pair of those special
sunglasses like in "They Live"
that was only part of the interview.
The entire interview 81 mins is here:
Soviet Subversion of the Free World Press - 1984

Randy

[Aaron]

subversion film

Here is the full torrent if anyone wants to download it:
Soviet Subversion of the Free Press Yuri Bezmenov(KGB defector) : Other > Other - Mininova

No seeders though...for now

[future pather]

"Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden were to meet Friday with 17 members of their transition economic advisory board. Members include former presidential Cabinet officials and executives from Xerox Corp., Time Warner Inc., Google Inc. and the Hyatt hotel company. Investor Warren Buffett was participating by telephone."

Obama meeting Friday with economic advisers - Yahoo! News

I think it's very promising he is meeting with Google, Buffett, etc.

[Vortex]

Here is the full torrent if anyone wants to download it:
Soviet Subversion of the Free Press Yuri Bezmenov(KGB defector) : Other > Other - Mininova

No seeders though...for now

Using Firefox browser and Downloadhelper add-on will allow you to save videos from within Firefox.
Warning, just about every video saved via downloadhelper is saved as FLV type file..
If you don't know what that is, then you probably can't play it.
"VLC media player" will play/view FLV videos.
Those wanting to save videos that seem to disappear at an increasing rate these days can use VLC media player and downloadhelper.
OH, almost forgot, VLC also allows you to convert FLV to another video format,

Save and share the info
Randy