Hydroelectric Pelton turbine documentation

[Laurent]

Hello,

I'm french, I have a little chalet in the mountain, near Chamonix Mont-Blanc. There is no any electricity network avaible near my place and I had to find a way to produce my own electricity. Since 4 years I have built a little hydroelectric turbine based on a pelton runner. Generator used is a washing machin motor. I wrote a documentation about this project explaining how i have done : Pico hydroelectric turbine documentation
Next step: i'm lookink for 24 V alternator with permanent magnet. If you have any ideas and links about these generators types ...
Please send me your feedbacks and links.

All the best,

Laurent Moreau

[Hankinator]

Laurent, Thank you for sharing. Very well documented. Great job and keep expanding.

I skimmed through most of your documentation. I am curious how much "flow" your current system uses. You mentioned that you have a 2500 liter storage tank. How high above your generator is this and how long will it last without the creek replenishing?

One tank of water can produce how much electricity?

Thanks again for sharing.

Hankinator

[Laurent]

Laurent, Thank you for sharing. Very well documented. Great job and keep expanding.

I skimmed through most of your documentation. I am curious how much "flow" your current system uses. You mentioned that you have a 2500 liter storage tank. How high above your generator is this and how long will it last without the creek replenishing?

One tank of water can produce how much electricity?

Thanks again for sharing.

Hankinator

Actually, with 2 nozzles, I'm using approximativaly 1 l./sec.
So for 2500 liters tank, I "burn" this battery water in 40 min. Fortunately, the small river where i take the water bring 3 or 4 l./sec. to the tank, so this one is always full.

The tank is 50 m above the turbine, verticaly, but the pipe longer is near 150 m, so slope is about 33 %. The pressure is 5 bars due to the 50 m but charge loss are high in my ideas (due small internal diameter of pipe and not really vertical slope ~ 33 %)

Today, with the poymotor washing machine motor mounted on the turbine I produced 150 Watts / hours => 3.6 Kwatts a day. I store this electricity in battery parc and transform it with an UPS to obtain 220 Volts alternative current before use it.

In the same time, I have photovoltaique systeme on the roof (300 Watts) which charge my battery in the same time but it's really not the same production ! Thus, solar panel are depending of sun, and in my country it's 5 or 6 hours in summer, and 3 or 4 in winter (when sky is blue ...) but the turbine, she's always on and produce 24 h/24h, not all the time, of course, only when I'm in the chalet, but I'm a little worries with bruschless and I know I will have to change it soon. It's why I'm searching for permanent magnet generator without bruschless.

All the best

Laurent

[Vortex]

Very nice, thank you for sharing.

Where did you obtain the Pelton Wheel from, is that the HYD-001 Hydro Pelton Wheel/Runner from Rainbow Power?
What is the size is that Pelton wheel?


Randy

[ashtweth]

Bonjour Laurent!! Thank you for this walk through very precise and detailed! . All as i can comment on is that make sure you re enforce them (the PM washing machine generator). This site here shows you a good way to do it.The Back Shed

Ash

[morpher44]

over-unity with hydroelectric and Tesla?

Pico hydroelectric turbine
Laurent Moreau

I had a crazy thought ... which of course I will pass along
to those interested in hydroelectric.

According to the Pico hydroelectric turbine
it is possible to create about 750Watts from
100 GPM of water.

Coincidentally, Tesla's patent #1113716,
"FOUNTAIN"
can produce 100 GPM of flowing water
from ONLY 30 watts of power.

So it seems to me that utilizing Tesla's FOUNTAIN approach
to push the water UP ... and then utilizing
Pico hydroelectric turbines (or some other highly efficient
small scall hydrogenerator)
"MIGHT"
result in over-unity power generation.

In other words, use a low wattage motor to create
a vortex to move the water level up just a few inches. It will
cascade off the top in a circular pattern at 100 GPM.
Then, have this flow down to a small scale
hydrogenerator like this one:
Welcome to Platypus Power - Micro Hydro Electric Generator Factory
to produce power.
It looks like this one can operate a minimum head
of 5 meters.... so if you can create a Tesla fountain
that pushes water up 5 meters at low wattage,
your in business.

[tjnlsn255]

PMAs can be found at this site.....

WindBlue Power - The best wind generator parts and PMA Permanent Magnet Alternators on the web

You can use a voltage doubler or trippler to get the voltage you want....

Have fun.....

Tj

[jibbguy]

Wonderful job Laurent, thanks for sharing your information!

I've had my eye on Marine high-current alternators for a long time now (they can be gotten with outputs of "200 amps" or more). They are usually PM, and as you stated, they have heavier-duty bearings and are built to take the environment. "West Marine" is a possible source for them in the U.S. , although it should be possible to get them cheaper

Also, here in Florida there are several "boat salvage yards"; with old abandoned craft or boats with damaged hulls wrecked in past hurricanes (and regular junk yards here often have boats for salvage too). These are good spots for finding one "used" (... also for getting Stainless tubing, and battery switches/charging control panels/meters, BTW). I know there's one in the St. Petersburg area, and there used to be one in Dania near Ft. Lauderdale. Look for a wrecked sailboat that is 30 foot or longer, they are the ones more likely to have the high current PM alternators needed to run the boat's DC freezer/fridge and charge batts simultaneously when under power.

[ashtweth]

PMAs can be found at this site.....

WindBlue Power - The best wind generator parts and PMA Permanent Magnet Alternators on the web

You can use a voltage doubler or trippler to get the voltage you want....

Have fun.....

Tj

I have a friend who tried those PMA's on an RV, the eddy currents are bad on those dont run them at a too high RPM . Hope every one had a new year almost back in the swing of things.