air engine verry promissing!!!!

[ashtweth]

I still didn't get any of that, your saying the device is a scam, how have you evaluated that , what is your position. Thanks. Just take a deep breath typing on the internet wont alleviate frustration.

Ash

[ronsxemail]

I still didn't get any of that, your saying the device is a scam, how have you evaluated that , what is your position. Thanks. Just take a deep breath typing on the internet wont alleviate frustration.

Ash

"YES ITS A SCAM"
Your just now figuring that out
When you see SR face to face and his blender with leds all over it
it only takes .02 seconds to figure it out.
what alleviates fustration is bending my old lady over
Dont tell me your another but heart person who cant face it
that they have been believing in b.s

[Inertia]

Learn Thermo

These are the results for ignoring basic thermodynamics. Believing in this machine is just like believing you can be the best basketball player in the world without the need to dribble.

I can't see why these people here are so dumbfounded. The unit is trash. Im fed up with hype makers. If the unit extracts thermal energy from the sun WTH YOU PUTTING LEDS IN THE MACHINE FOR? LIKE I SAID PUT A THERMOCOUPLE AND A FLOWWWWWWWWWWW METER YOU HEARD. NO HE DOESNT WANT TO = BS SCAM

[Inertia]

Learn Thermo

You people will quit being in aww if you learned basic thermodynamics. The max energy an imploding machine can extract is based on the Q formula. This is known as the heat formula. Q = cmDeltaT. C = specific heat of air, m = mass of air and deltaT is the temperature at outlet of turbine - temperature at inlet of turbine. To get any useful power a HUGE MASS OF AIR MUST BE INGESTED.

We have a problem now that mass of air will be choked at the speed of sound. Only a certain amount of mass can be ingested into a inlet diameter. For example whats the max cfm that can be ingested into a 2 inch inlet duct diameter? Well mach 1 is the choke point. 2 inch = 3.14 in2 = 0.02181 ft2. Mach 1 = 1125 ft/s. 0.02181 x 1125 x 60 = 1472 cfm.

So a 2 inch duct can only have a max cfm flow of 1472cfm but air must move into that duct at mach 1 for that to happen. It takes energy to do that. Now lets say this air hits a turbine and drops 100 degrees starting from ambient temperature of 77f. That leaves us with a delta t of -23 to 77f. Whats the power this unit extracted? Thats -29300j = 39 horsepower. Now lets say you can magically get the turbine to exhaust the air at -460f starting from 77F (HIGHLY IMPROBABLE THIS IS SPACE TEMPERATURE). That would make -157340j = 211 hp.

Look at the inlet duct of the aate. Is it 2 inch in dia? 4 inch dia? You people think he can drop the ambient air temperature to that of space? -460F. They cant even do this in a lab with millions of dollars of equipment. Some desktop bench unit can do this with leds? Can the material handle -460F without contracting imploding in on itself? Can it handle such a high thermal shock temperature difference -460 to 77f? It starts getting easier to see through this bogus claim. Well somebody might say air entrainment. Air entrainment = momentum transfer no gain here sorry buddy.

Well now using simple thermo we can see how insane it is to believe in this machine. It cant even pass the simple test. Its like trying out for the nba and you cant dribble.

LEARN BASIC THERMO.

ALL UNITS HERE WHERE ROUNDED OFF FOR EASE OF EXPLAINATION, EXCUSE GRAMMER.

[ashtweth]

"YES ITS A SCAM"
Your just now figuring that out
When you see SR face to face and his blender with leds all over it
it only takes .02 seconds to figure it out.
what alleviates fustration is bending my old lady over
Dont tell me your another but heart person who cant face it
that they have been believing in b.s

>Dont tell me your another but heart person who cant face it

No i just like people to have a normal conversation and to be clear in what they are saying, i think ill do my own investigations. Thanks for your reports any how.

Ash

[Inertia]

Hey Ron G Rockwell jr. Ignore these folk. You did your job. These people ignore basic rules and get caught up in bull. I bet If they lived in Antarctica i could sell them ice. To get overunity you need a fuel that has high internal energy. Air has internal energy but it it limited to mach one extraction (IMO). Let an idiot move air at supersonic speed and hit a turbine. The air will shock rise in temperature and there will be loses. Electrical charge of air is just less heat rise for electrical potential. Im done here. Good Job Ron G Rockwell jr. you can sleep sound

[ronsxemail]

Hey Ron G Rockwell jr. Ignore these folk. You did your job. These people ignore basic rules and get caught up in bull. I bet If they lived in Antarctica i could sell them ice. To get overunity you need a fuel that has high internal energy. Air has internal energy but it it limited to mach one extraction (IMO). Let an idiot move air at supersonic speed and hit a turbine. The air will shock rise in temperature and there will be loses. Electrical charge of air is just less heat rise for electrical potential. Im done here. Good Job Ron G Rockwell jr. you can sleep sound

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