DOOMSDAY!! December 21st, 2012

[bobo36us]

You guys seen Joseph Newmans latest videos?

He says the world is coming to an end on December 21st, 2012.
He actually has alot of facts to back it up!

The Ultimate Solution to Total Destruction by Joseph Newman
Preparing for the Ride of Your Life!
Miracle warning from God

[Rayaz]

This is a very complex issue and I have been watching it for some time. With the new knowledge coming to light in the global consciousness about how we create our future by our thoughts, we are ultimately the ones who decide what will happen on 2012.

Ultimately, it is a turning point, not a time of doom/death/destruction. You have to learn to recognize the good in what seems like a negative situation. And realize that the negative is there in order to usher in the positive. Just look at nature to understand this. We must learn to understand and utilize the creative powers of the universe (implosion, creativity, sharing, etc. as opposed to combustion, greed, anger, etc.). Look at our planets history, GAIA has caused many major catastrophic events in the past, but were there not many more conscious/creative' species that evolved afterwards? Also, look at how people 'come together' when catastrophic events occur. There is also a cycle that occurs, until the conscious beings on the planet 'get it right'. In order for this, the negative must occur first, to make us understand what we DON'T WANT so that we can create what we DO WANT.

The doom/death/destruction is going to happen to those who do not understand the universal laws/forces at play here. Right now and through 2012 compassion, openness, and creativity to be held as the highest principles, these are universal principles, and are required in order for us to become active players in the universal game, and get us onto other planets, communicating openly with other civilizations... Think about it, would civilizations far more advanced than ours, who are keeping an eye on us from the skies, other dimensions, etc. allow us to visit their worlds with nuclear bombs on board/guns in hand? Hell no! They are also unable to intervene directly with our evolution because that would violate our freewill and we would then expect them to 'make it right', but that is not the way the universe works, it is up to US to make it right, in order for us to do that, again we must first understand what is wrong to see the right. Those who understand this, will be the ones to create the future. Those who cannot get out of their ego, and remain money hungry, selfless, uncaring for their actions/effects on the planet and others, are the ones expecting doom/gloom, they are already sensing the very end to their current ways of existing, and fear it.

Those who understand the powers of the mind, and the universal/spiritual forces at play here, already understand that the choice is ultimately up to every one of us where we want to end up, and the choice has already been made, we just have to become aware of that choice we have made. Those meant to carry on will be at the right place, the 'safe zones' on the planet that will not experience the major catastrophic events that may or may not occur in the near future.

Another possibility is a dimensional split, too complicated to explain that here, check out this link if you'd like to learn more: Transcending the Control System: metaphys

Remember that we have a choice in our future, it is the freewill of our spirits that ultimately decides where we will end up after 2012, and well into the future.

But also remember to always keep an open mind, for any limitations imposed on your being will only hinder your evolution.

[future pather]

Yeah these days it seems everybody has an opinion on 2012.

Just keep in mind there are those making some real big bucks off their material on it, perhaps trying to motivate others by fear.

XO Jessica

[theremart]

Re: 2012..

Did anyone remember the year 2000 was gonna kill us all? The Y2k Bug...

Computer shut down.

Flight hit one another because of computer malfunction.

I, myself do believe in a doomsday (as i do trust in the bible for the source of answers ) , but I am tired of listening to those who have a less than perfect tradition of getting the facts straight.

It is so hard today when the "facts" can be manipulated by those putting out the information to get a clear picture. But i do take stock of those who have a good track record of getting the facts right and those who create hype to sell their books.

I like the Newman motor, but in watching his videos he is not the hope for mankind, and if we don't send money to him, it will not be the end of the world.

[Aaron]

roll the starchart forward to verify date

Here is what I want to see...I believe there is some crossroads that mankind is crossing very soon. As far as a date of the whole 2012 concept, has this been done?

This date is supposed to be Dec 21, 2012. On that day our planet, sun, pleadies, etc.. is supposed to be aligned with the supposed black hole in the center of the milky way. The date is debatable and our calendar is supposed to be 4 years off and this 2008 could be 2012. Anyway, there are star charting programs that could show the present star configuration...roll it forward until the alignment happens and see what the date is...maybe it is on that date according to our current calendar system or it may not be.

[wpage]

Only one

God the Father will call the time and the hour

[Aaron]

time

Wpage, I believe that, but also believe that could be a totally separate event from the 2012 event.

[wpage]

Interesting

Now that is a concept!

[bobo36us]

Great thoughts everybody!!!!!!!

@Rayaz..........pretty intense stuff! Thanks for sharing

@Peter...........you still around??? Your thoughts????

Also, if Joe Newman is so concerned with mankind, why doesn't he
just publish his latest technologies instead of asking everybody
to send him money???????

The funny thing is though, I still believe him!!!

[InTheField]

This date is supposed to be Dec 21, 2012. On that day our planet, sun, pleadies, etc.. is supposed to be aligned with the supposed black hole in the center of the milky way. The date is debatable and our calendar is supposed to be 4 years off and this 2008 could be 2012. Anyway, there are star charting programs that could show the present star configuration...roll it forward until the alignment happens and see what the date is...maybe it is on that date according to our current calendar system or it may not be.

I believe that it's been done and ... the date is significantly off. I don't recall the calculated date (it was done by some astrophysicists IIRC), but it isn't 2012...

I've heard plenty of "TEOTWAWKI" doomsayers... My ex got pretty caught up in the whole Y2K hype to the point of blowing LOTS of money on "survival supplies" (which ended up mostly going with her and her new man, who was "gonna take care o' her, dontchaknow")... Basically, I've come to the conclusion that I can't stop "The End" (tm) and I can only do so much to prepare for "TEOTWAWKI". Sooooo... I quit worrying about it. It will either happen or it won't... end of story! I just live the best I can and do the best I can, that's all... and try my best not to get caught up in any panic or hype.

Take care...

[Peter Lindemann]

Mayan Calendar

@Rayaz..........pretty intense stuff! Thanks for sharing

@Peter...........you still around??? Your thoughts????

Also, if Joe Newman is so concerned with mankind, why doesn't he
just publish his latest technologies instead of asking everybody
to send him money???????

The funny thing is though, I still believe him!!!

Hi Guys,

If my memory serves me, I believe that the 2012 date has to do with the END of the Mayan Calendar. This "long count" cycle is NOT the end of the world, or the end of civilization, or the end of evil, or any of these things. The Mayan Calendar was carved on a circular piece of stone. The 2012 date is the END OF THE STONE CIRCLE! That's all. Time goes on!

Aligning your personal will with the Divine Will is something you have the PRIVILEGE of doing, voluntarily and joyously, regardless of what time it is! If God wanted to FORCE you to do something, it would be done already. Obviously, free will is an opportunity to learn the truth about reality and the consequences of your decisions. Coercion, fear, threat of punishment, and the like are all human inventions, and do not reflect the Divine Nature, which is Pure Love, Unlimited Mercy, and Uncompromising Goodness.

I have meditated on these things for over 35 years, and I am quite sure that once Divine Love fills the heart, there is no longer any room for fear. The world is not coming to an end, but a number of unsustainable imbalances in the world economy may be.

Peter

[pln4472]

Amen "IntheField"

Take no thought what tomorrow will bring, for today has enough problems of it own.

I just have faith that God will work it out.
Marlin

[future pather]

Aligning your personal will with the Divine Will is something you have the PRIVILEGE of doing, voluntarily and joyously, regardless of what time it is! If God wanted to FORCE you to do something, it would be done already. Obviously, free will is an opportunity to learn the truth about reality and the consequences of your decisions. Coercion, fear, threat of punishment, and the like are all human inventions, and do not reflect the Divine Nature, which is Pure Love, Unlimited Mercy, and Uncompromising Goodness.

I have meditated on these things for over 35 years, and I am quite sure that once Divine Love fills the heart, there is no longer any room for fear. The world is not coming to an end, but a number of unsustainable imbalances in the world economy may be.

Peter

Wow Peter, that's a beautiful quote

[Chip Shorter]

To me its kind of like looking at my calender and finding January 2009 is the last month.

[Matthew Jones]

John McCain did say the war would be over by 2012, LOL. I am sure he is well aware of Satans plans. LOL. After all he's trying to replace him in the white house. LOL
Better start stiring the Kool Aid.

The weak mind of an idiot can sway the minds of many. Just look at the Story of Chicken little.

You should be very careful as to what you even pay attention to. Newmans gotta lotta gull to drag the God Given prophetic credetials into his wacky fear campaign. I am not even gonna list the amount of times I have heard him lie about whatever he was talking about at the time. Most of the things he claims he's responsible for you can find in a text books that predates him.

All I can say is if Gods warning people of the onccoming doom in our near future. He'll warn a few more, Maybe they will have some real credentials.

Matt