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I built a project very similar to this about 4-5 year ago but I used a hard drive platter/bearing assembly with small magnets around the outside edge equally spaced (I balanced it so very little effort was needed to spin it) I forget what I used as a coil assembly to finish up the motor but the principal was the same.
At the time I was on a website that was started by the 'discoverer' of this effect (in it's current form).
Anyway when I was experimenting with it I discovered something very unusual that defies any logical explanation (at least no physics I know of).
Here is what happened:
It was at night and it was running in a back room, as the motor was turning very slowly (as it had been running for hours) I walked down the hall and could see the neon lamp was glowing but for some reason I got curious about this so completely darkened up the room and the neon lamp went out.
As soon as I turned on a small flashlight the neon lamp went on! I put my hand over the flashlight and the lamp remained on (just the light shining through my skin was apparently reaching it) I turned off the flashlight and the neon lamp went off again.
The room was totally dark as it had blackout cloth under the curtains, so I stumbled over to the window and this was about 15 feet from the device and I pulled back the edge of the drapes, there was no moon or outside light visible coming in but the lamp went back on! No matter how little the drapes were opened whatever light (I couldn't even see) came into the room would apparently 'excite' the neon and cause it to light! I spent the whole evening experimenting with this phenomena and hooked up a filament lamp to a power supply with a variable output and was shocked to notice the neon lamp came on even before I could detect any light from the incandescent filament!
Maybe this isn't that unusual but I was shocked at how little light could cause the neon to excite to the point of glowing!
This maybe wasn't related to the circuit but I have worked with NE2 lamps for years and have never seen one behave like that.
Just thought I would share this interesting night!
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I tried this yes all batteries charge on there own.Originally posted by mbrownn View PostIf you have two 12v batteries being charged in parallel the voltage of one will not match exactly the voltage of the other so the diodes prevent one battery discharging into the other. when one battery is full you can take it off while letting the other continue to charge, that way you stop boiling the full battery.
Thanks for sharing.
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If you have two 12v batteries being charged in parallel the voltage of one will not match exactly the voltage of the other so the diodes prevent one battery discharging into the other. when one battery is full you can take it off while letting the other continue to charge, that way you stop boiling the full battery.Originally posted by Guruji View PostHi mbrown thanks for this info. Regarding charging batteries in parallel why is it that you've mentioned to put seperate diode to each? Did you find this better? Is it possible to post a schematic of this to be sure how this have to be done cause I've already have parallel diodes on my circuit?
Thanks
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Hi mbrown thanks for this info. Regarding charging batteries in parallel why is it that you've mentioned to put seperate diode to each? Did you find this better? Is it possible to post a schematic of this to be sure how this have to be done cause I've already have parallel diodes on my circuit?Originally posted by mbrownn View PostYes there are many terms for it, I call it radiant because that is the only way it can get into the circuit. It is the energy that we appear to be getting but cannot measure it coming in, It is the energy that is charging the battery and nothing to do with our source supply.
A Bedini fan can be used in many ways and configurations, you can use 3v to charge 12v or 12v to charge 3v, the voltage does not matter much. Series and parallel configurations are all ok for the supply but on the output parallel is best with a separate diode going to each battery. Obviously the batteries in parallel need to be of the same voltage. The only thing to look out for is that the charging battery does not get hot, slightly warm is ok. You can charge non rechargeable like zinc carbon batteries too.
A computer fan is a great start for small batteries up to 4 Ah, rewind it with 27# wire to go up to 12Ah
I havent taken many pictures as there are already lots of them on the web.
ThanksLast edited by Guruji; 09-26-2011, 07:45 PM.
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GOOD! maybe you could send it via e-mail to all of us on your site attached to your "happy Birthday wish" sure would like that, cause I have a VERY SLOW connection,,almost as slow as my brain at recalling what I have already seen.
Having said this, having a shelf full of documents is a whole lot better then trying to recall which site I saw what at and then waiting sometimes hours for it to load only to find it wasn't that site after all. CHEERS!
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Heath,
Another way of doing it is to use a 'breadboard'. If you ask someone who has worked with a breadboard before and understands how to read the circuit diagram, you will have a running SSG Bedini Fan motor.
It seems frustrating at first. I was a total newbie in electronics and I blew several transitors, a pot or three and many diodes by doing the wring all wrong. Yet after a few days of perseverance, I got my first one to work. I can now convert a standard fan into a SSG working circuit in +- 1 hour without much hassle, and I have only been working on this stuff for 2 months.
Hang in there and you will get it right.
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Its no hoax, but I understand your frustration when you are messing around with those little wires.
All the info you need is here Imhoteps Labs
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hoax
i think this is a hoax , i have half a dozen fans dismantled and cannot follow your instructions , try taking that stupid music of and talk people through it instead , or is that too easy ? explain why you need a transister ? can this be made simpler without the light ? do you cut every wire and have a single pole for each wire . this is very very unclear and confusing . i think is a hoax .
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Digital meters have a problem reading pulsed dc and usually show an error in the reading. This is because the pulse frequency effects the refresh rate. Analog meters show an average reading of volts if there is enough current in the wire to power them but with a Bedini there is little or no current so the reading will be low.Originally posted by lwblack View PostI have 3 different multi-meters. Two are analog and one is digital. I am finding some strange results when I switch to different voltage readings on each and every one of my multimeters. When I don't have a charge battery connected it can show upwards of 50 volts on the digital meter set at the 200vdc scale. This has GOT to be the peek to peek voltage(spikes) and not RMS voltage. When I connect the meter in parallel to the charge battery, I get different readings on different scales(again on ALL 3 meters). Can anyone enlighten me why ALL three would show different readings on the same battery and at the same pot setting? It is about a half volt difference but still there is difference. The ONLY theory I have is the different resistances required at different voltage settings is throwing off the readings.
The only instrument we have to show the voltage of the spike is an oscilloscope.
There is a way to measure the voltage with a meter but you risk burning out your transistor and I would not do this. Place a high voltage capacitor as the charging battery and measure how high the voltage goes.
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I have 3 different multi-meters. Two are analog and one is digital. I am finding some strange results when I switch to different voltage readings on each and every one of my multimeters. When I don't have a charge battery connected it can show upwards of 50 volts on the digital meter set at the 200vdc scale. This has GOT to be the peek to peek voltage(spikes) and not RMS voltage. When I connect the meter in parallel to the charge battery, I get different readings on different scales(again on ALL 3 meters). Can anyone enlighten me why ALL three would show different readings on the same battery and at the same pot setting? It is about a half volt difference but still there is difference. The ONLY theory I have is the different resistances required at different voltage settings is throwing off the readings.
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Yes you can replace the pot with a resistor of the correct value.
Not seen a way to do it using the thee posts
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ok, thanks.Originally posted by mbrownn View PostThere are several ways to tune the fans,
1 achieve the highest charging voltage
2 achieve the loudest noise from the coils
4 with the charging battery disconnected, achieve the brightest glow from the neon bulb
do you need to actually tune them every time you use a different source,
or could i replace the pod with a resistor once it has the sweet spot?
Imhotep mentioned that he has managed to get the fan-charger going
without having to pull the unit apart and using the three posts only.
has anyone heard any more about it?
i cannot find a circuit diagram or more info on it.
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There are several ways to tune the fans,
1 achieve the highest charging voltage
2 achieve the loudest noise from the coils
4 with the charging battery disconnected, achieve the brightest glow from the neon bulb
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thanks for the quick reply.Originally posted by mbrownn View PostMultiple fans are fine in parallel but each must have its own circuit.
That is how you tune it, get the highest voltage.
how would you tune them?
once you have tuned one fan - rise of voltage, would the next one also increase the voltage?
or would you need switches to tune each one and then connect all of them with the battery?
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