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[syborfical]

Anyone got a schematic or detailed plans. I have watched the video a zillion times.

Although the PC fan now makes a nice 2 pole generator.

[mbrownn]

Hello Guys, This is my first post at energetic. I am having fun playing with this circuit, I am using a 4" fan with a 50K Pot.






So I have a question... I have some smaller fans wired like this(Image Below)... Will this work or do I have to change the wiring? I tried hooking up one with no luck



Thanks
Kevin

There is no need to change the wires on the coils but I find it works better if you do use heavier gauge wire.

I see what you mean about the video because no batteries were shown but I don't think there was any intention to mislead because his other videos do show the batteries.

syborfical

Go to Imhoteps Labs

[Khwartz]

I see what you mean about the video because no batteries were shown but I don't think there was any intention to mislead because his other videos do show the batteries.

Sorry, I can't believe that, they would have shown the batteries if they had this intention. So, if they show them in other vids, means that they wanted to make people curious to see further, but could be it is only my personal "philosophical taste": I dislike this way because it can discredit the work in free energy

But any way, the vids kcarring provided of MrTWally67, show clearly self-running fans, so that is quiet what we need

Go to Imhoteps Labs

Thanks for the link

[mbrownn]

Sorry, I can't believe that, they would have shown the batteries if they had this intention. So, if they show them in other vids, means that they wanted to make people curious to see further, but could be it is only my personal "philosophical taste": I dislike this way because it can discredit the work in free energy

But any way, the vids kcarring provided of MrTWally67, show clearly self-running fans, so that is quiet what we need


Thanks for the link

We will have to disagree on Imhotep's intent but that should not stop us from talking about the devices he made.

Which videos show a selfrunner?

Like you my goal is a self runner as that is the ultimate proof of overunity. I have watched many videos claiming to be self runners and even got fooled by one. There are only two that I have seen that look totally genuine but unfortunately when my hard drive died I lost the links, wish I could find them again.

In standard electrical theory it is impossible because of closed loops but with an open system it is possible. In truth all systems are open and this is admitted as it is usually called interference or noise, but if we can maximize the efficiency and encourage this interference, we will be on the right path to produce such a device.

With the fan we can get fantastic recovery from the coil but we cannot feed it back to the source without bipolar switching. By doing this we do not close the loop allowing for better environmental input but the more components we add to the device the more losses we get and the self runner remains out of reach. By using the output of the motor we can top up the losses with a generator function but we will need a very efficient generator as the motor itself is very inefficient.

All parts of the fan system is subject to losses and these can be calculated. Bedini shows us a method of recovery that even without a second input is very efficient. I have the method to feed this back to the source, that is "close the loop without closing the loop" but there are problems.

The overunity effect requires a charging battery and a battery does not like to be charged and discharged at the same time.

Do you think I should release this circuit?

At this moment in time I do not have it self running but I am close. I have too many losses in the transistors and my generator is too low in efficiency but I think both of these things can be solved.

[Khwartz]

We will have to disagree on Imhotep's intent but that should not stop us from talking about the devices he made.

for sure!

Which videos show a selfrunner?

MrTwally67's Channel - YouTube - you have all a series of! but this following one I like much because we see very clearly the moment MrTwally67 plug off the 2 batteries and the fan continue to selfrunning and even feed the neon bulb!

Like you my goal is a self runner as that is the ultimate proof of overunity.

I remember you that a cristl radio is an OU! lol, with even an INFINITE COP, as COP is the ratio of the power of the energy we want under the power of the energy that cost to us, and in cristal radio, we input no power supply, so no "costly power", so: x/0=> oo (with x>0).

I have watched many videos claiming to be self runners and even got fooled by one.

I understand.

There are only two that I have seen that look totally genuine but unfortunately when my hard drive died I lost the links, wish I could find them again.

But Romeo replication of Muller's dynamo, was fake for you? (for now, nobody here looks having been able to selfrun the system, but his vids show it...)

In standard electrical theory it is impossible because of closed loops but with an open system it is possible. In truth all systems are open

Yes, I think that is the point! would be only because quantum plenum (not "vacuum") is everywhere!

and this is admitted as it is usually called interference or noise, but if we can maximize the efficiency and encourage this interference, we will be on the right path to produce such a device.

So, why not taking ideas from crystal radio functioning so? to sustain the device in compensating the losses by the RV energy?

With the fan we can get fantastic recovery from the coil but we cannot feed it back to the source without bipolar switching. By doing this we do not close the loop allowing for better environmental input but the more components we add to the device the more losses we get and the self runner remains out of reach. By using the output of the motor we can top up the losses with a generator function but we will need a very efficient generator as the motor itself is very inefficient.

Understand.

All parts of the fan system is subject to losses and these can be calculated. Bedini shows us a method of recovery that even without a second input is very efficient. I have the method to feed this back to the source, that is "close the loop without closing the loop" but there are problems.

The overunity effect requires a charging battery and a battery does not like to be charged and discharged at the same time.

What about to replace the battery by large capacitor? It can store the electrical energy too and change reactive energy in active energy too...

Do you think I should release this circuit?

I think it's up to you! unless you are honest about the efficiency like letting the fan running maximum time until it stops on a 1.5V battery, and measuring the time of discharge, something like that. You could even like that compare your progresses in efficiency by comparison

At this moment in time I do not have it self running but I am close. I have too many losses in the transistors

Would you try to put like 2, 4, 6 transistors in parallel? doing like this, you should divide by as much the resistance of the resistor section

and my generator is too low in efficiency but I think both of these things can be solved.

Could be you could ask advises by PM to MrTwally67
Good luck! and thanks for your post

[mbrownn]

What about to replace the battery by large capacitor? It can store the electrical energy too and change reactive energy in active energy too...


I think it's up to you! unless you are honest about the efficiency like letting the fan running maximum time until it stops on a 1.5V battery, and measuring the time of discharge, something like that. You could even like that compare your progresses in efficiency by comparison


Would you try to put like 2, 4, 6 transistors in parallel? doing like this, you should divide by as much the resistance of the resistor section


Could be you could ask advises by PM to MrTwally67
Good luck! and thanks for your post

I have been working on using a capacitor but even so we cannot take advantage of the overunity effects as this type of charging takes time and we don't have anywhere near enough time between pulses.

I agree with you, we all should be honest about our success and failures, this way everyone can learn from the successes and failures. I will release the circuit, in fact most of it I already have in my threads. I think you should read them, there is a lot there in a few posts, including some circuits I have used.

Multiple transistors may work to some extent but at a price, we have multiple points of loss.

[Brian Wilson]

NewBe

Ordered the parts I needed to make this circuit and settled in reading this thread and studying the circuit. I had hoped to make it and have it running before signing up for this forum. Unfortunately I came across two different circuit drawings that appear to me to be different. I have enclosed them. If someone could clarify whether the one on the left or right is the correct schematic I would appreciate it. Perhaps both are workable but my meagar understanding of electronics suggests not.

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[mbrownn]

Ordered the parts I needed to make this circuit and settled in reading this thread and studying the circuit. I had hoped to make it and have it running before signing up for this forum. Unfortunately I came across two different circuit drawings that appear to me to be different. I have enclosed them. If someone could clarify whether the one on the left or right is the correct schematic I would appreciate it. Perhaps both are workable but my meagar understanding of electronics suggests not.

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I think the right one is correct but it is a simple matter of swapping over the wires if not.

[Brian Wilson]

Thanks for the help on the schematic. It is the schematic on the right. I just got my fan to run. It took a little resoldering until I had it correct.

The neon does not light when I disconnect the charging battery. But neither does it blow the transistor. The fan keeps running.

I'm using two 12V, 1.5 amp gel lead acid batteries. The one is starting out at 12.4V and the other at 6.9V. I'm letting it run now to see what happens.

I have a 1.2 K pot with a 680 ohm resister. The neon is a red 110-120 volt. The fan coils are different than the normal 1-2, 3-4 arrangement. It is 1-3, 2-4. The wire goes from one coil over to the opposite coil.

the fan speed does not change when I change the pot.

I probably haven't supplied enough information to answer why my neon doesn't light but any suggestions would be appreciated.

[mbrownn]

Usually the reason why the neon does not light is that you do not have a high enough resistance in the trigger circuit an so you are not on the sweet spot

[Brian Wilson]

I did find the problem. My neon had a resistor on it. When I replaced it with one that didn''t have a resistor it glowed. It is not a bright light. Changing the pot does change the intensity of the light.

I found out from my nephew that the lead acid batteries that I was using become "bad" when discharged. My discharged battery was charging but at a slow pace. so I was rather disappointed with the results. When I replaced the charge battery with 3 AAA alkaline batteries it charged them up in 15 minutes. I was relieved that it worked so well. When not charging smaller batteries I will put the lead acid on to see if I can recondition it.

Now the experimenting begins. Since most of the batteries (AAA & AA) we use in LED flashlights i will charge and discharge using those batteries and flashlights. I have the flashlight pointing at a light meter and can quantify how much output for what length of time they run.

My ultimate goal is to have a bank of lead acid batteries with an inverter charged by several fan chargers hooked in parallel. I'll work up to that.

While it is fun to "play" with this and experiment, I really am working to something more practical. In addition to the above experiments I will start making more chargers that are well contained, neater, and have whatever connectors I finally decide to use so whatever I plug into them will be quick and easy to use.

[mbrownn]

For the most efficient charging your Bedini charger should drew 1/20th of the amphour rating of your battery, so if it is 10 Ahr you would want a charger that draws about 500ma. This means the battery will take 20 hours to charge. Of course the fan is much smaller than that but you can put a coil in parallel with the fan power coil to increase its power to some extent. This thread was me when I was learning about the fan many years ago experimenting to increase its output. Imhotep's Lab Interactive FAQ - View topic - How to increase the output of a bedini fan

Desulphating takes much longer to do.

Be careful with gel batteries they tend to dry out if overcharged

[Khwartz]

@Brian Wilson

I admire the way you have to handle this: factor by factor

[Brian Wilson]

thanks mbrownn & khwartz

I got my fan working. It did not light up the neon very well. However it did indeed charge. I made a 2nd one and hooked them in parallel. That worked better. I was able to charge a new ATV battery in one hour.

I, of cource, wanted better. I got a bigger brushless fan from Jameco. The armature is 2" in diameter instead of 1". I rewound the coils with 32 awg wire, 500 winds on each coil. Each set of coils had 26 ohms resistance.

I doesn't work. Some of the information I came across says that the resistance needs to be above 20 ohms but other sources says 40 ohms.

I will order some finer wire and rewind to get above 40 ohms. Does anybody have any insights or tips? What guarge wire would be best?

[mbrownn]

I got my fan working. It did not light up the neon very well. However it did indeed charge. I made a 2nd one and hooked them in parallel. That worked better. I was able to charge a new ATV battery in one hour.

I, of cource, wanted better. I got a bigger brushless fan from Jameco. The armature is 2" in diameter instead of 1". I rewound the coils with 32 awg wire, 500 winds on each coil. Each set of coils had 26 ohms resistance.

I doesn't work. Some of the information I came across says that the resistance needs to be above 20 ohms but other sources says 40 ohms.

I will order some finer wire and rewind to get above 40 ohms. Does anybody have any insights or tips? What guarge wire would be best?

I use #27 wire to rewind fans, although I have used 32 and 30, you want as low a resistance as possible. With the smaller fans you may need to increase the input voltage to 24v to make the fan run with this wire. Its the amps multiplied by the number of turns that we need to make the motor run.