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[**~Imhotep~**]

I think the greatest danger is with dead batteries that have either too little distilled water in one of the cells so that it builds up hydrogen and sparks then boom sulfuric acid everywhere.

Or... you attempt to put too much amperage into a very tiny battery. I think it is best with small batteries to try to match the voltage of the battery closely.

When I get a new battery, I as a rule check the electrolyte levels by pulling off the caps and refilling if needed.

For small batteries, I try to use a small voltage from a wall cell phone charger, like 6V - 9V to use to power the SSG.

The danger is there, but can be greatly lessen if you get to know your batteries and what the limits of what they can be charged with.

Safety is a good thing.... Good to watch for overheating of any electrical component, and measuring how many amps you are using.

excellent info, checking the water levels even in the so called sealed lead acid batteries is very important. If they have been sitting in a warm area for a long period time the water does evaporate and doesnt matter how much rescuing you try to do it would be very difficult to recover them without the proper levels in each cell is what i found. (the sealed lead acid batteries still have a very small vent which u can usually pry up the top panel and then find screwed in vent caps) You have to use distilled water and if its something that has been sitting out and open ive even heard you can dump out the water with debris in a plastic container that you dispose of and refill with distilled water only and the crystals once they are spiked will remix with the water and most likely give them the proper specific gravity that they require. (i have not tried this but it was what i have read) i have only experienced one time where one of my more powerful chargers which i will be releasing the info on shortly is so powerful that it did burst the seals on alkalines that were brand new fully charged that i placed as the charge batteries because i had no drained ones, this will not occur with the fans as i can tell. but with the new more powerful charger which is an inspiration of
EV grays work, It is much more powerful and much more caution should be used when i release the information.

[Dingus]

Well, I've somehow managed to utterly destroy my stator. Anybody know of an easier fan I could use, preferably one already wired right?

[**~Imhotep~**]

Well, I've somehow managed to utterly destroy my stator. Anybody know of an easier fan I could use, preferably one already wired right?

i will be doing an easier charger as soon as possible ,so try another brand fan (some of mine were a nightmare to get the stator off but i was able to use every one i have attempted with a little work)these fans are every where ,shops throw away bad pwr supp all the time and will give you them for free. or try my simpler charger which i will post very soon ,hopefully a few days from now

[Dingus]

Just out of curiosity, what are some of the outputs you guys are getting?

[**~Imhotep~**]

theremart got close to 100 volt pulses out of his fan ,i am not sure what freq. it was at ,each fan will have different outputs and as you change the input volts it will change the output spikes ,some i ran on pwr supp 24 -36 volts much bigger spikes .i changed from 9 volt zinc carbon to lithium piles to lead acid and some times to de-sulfate i ran numerous fans(3) at 36 volts to speed the process.most fans are very tolerant on changing the input voltage .also i rewound some with my own wire .

[WoollyNZ]

Tests So Far

Wicked!

Big thanks to Imhotep and all on this forum.

I'm new to DIY electronics, so if my terminology is wrong, please let me know.

Grabbed 3 power supplies from the recycling center, will grab a whole lot more now.

Bought the 2N3055 transistors and 90v Neon bulbs.

Set up the cicuit on a bread board (Plastic Type).

First fan (Videc Beta SL) I tried, I broke it, swore a bit and then got on to the next one. Hot glued it together and now using on the PSU.

Second fan (MJ 802512) was easy, once I saw mentioned about two wires on one stand. It also had a hole ready for the 4th stand. Soldered it up the 4 wires had 66-70ohms.

Setup the circuit.

Source battery was 4 AA NiMh in Series and same with the Charging.

Had probs getting it started so I added a Diode between the Collector and the Charging Battery + (Is this ok?). (took a bit to figure out the + and - of the charge and trigger coils).

Sweet, it spun up and I could adjust the speed but the neon wouldn't light

Ok back to the forum someone mentioned using ATX power supplies as the source (). Read the instructions and built one out of the spare ones I had, also added the variable power regulator circuit.

Third fan was a Jamicon JF 0825S. Had to melt a post into plastic. Alot quicker to setup (due to practice) Also noticed it was the same brand Imhotep had in one of the videos. This fan ran faster than the second one so will use that mainly. (Will do more tests to find out which one is more efficient).

With the ATX power supply first thing was to charge up all my AAA, AA, 9V, 12V batteries I'd been using (Alkaline, NiMh, Lead). One AAA that read 0v and looked like it had leaked a bit got thrown.

Also found a 50v 2200uF capacitor at the recycling center, (about 50mm L by 25mm). Not keen on getting zapped so I put that on the back burner till I charged up all the batteries.

Couldn't stop looking at the 50v capacitor so very carefully set up so I could meter voltage and stuck on the circuit.

Here's the results.

In:

21.4V 0.0275A 0.5885W <30 Seconds

Out:

47V 0.79A 37.13W <1 Second

Not sure this is how to test a capacitor. I brought the capacitor up to 47v (rated 50v). Took less than 30 Secs. I put the Meter on 10 Amps, it flashed 0.79A briefly (< 1 Second). Tested Volts and it read 0.

Questions?

Very curious to see what the best way of testing efficiency is?
Is it ok to add a Diode between the Collector and the Charging Battery +?


Will do more testing over the coming months, this is very addictive.

All the best.

[theremart]

Ricks' fans info...

A variety of kits that Rick has done, thought you guys would enjoy seeing a how to by Rick...

Rick has these kits for sell as well...

Brushless_Motor_Fan_Bedini_Energizer_Overview_And_ Assembly.wmv

and yet another...

6InchBediniSSGBrushlessEnergizerTest.wmv

[**~Imhotep~**]

wow the first movie was part of my inspiration for the movies i did (rick is one of the greatest ,like john and peter) pre done is an excellent idea (no hunting for parts) thanks theremart you always bring it home ,stay tuned big things are coming soon!!!

[**~Imhotep~**]

Wicked!

Big thanks to Imhotep and all on this forum.

I'm new to DIY electronics, so if my terminology is wrong, please let me know.

Grabbed 3 power supplies from the recycling center, will grab a whole lot more now.

Bought the 2N3055 transistors and 90v Neon bulbs.

Set up the cicuit on a bread board (Plastic Type).

First fan (Videc Beta SL) I tried, I broke it, swore a bit and then got on to the next one. Hot glued it together and now using on the PSU.

Second fan (MJ 802512) was easy, once I saw mentioned about two wires on one stand. It also had a hole ready for the 4th stand. Soldered it up the 4 wires had 66-70ohms.

Setup the circuit.

Source battery was 4 AA NiMh in Series and same with the Charging.

Had probs getting it started so I added a Diode between the Collector and the Charging Battery + (Is this ok?). (took a bit to figure out the + and - of the charge and trigger coils).

Sweet, it spun up and I could adjust the speed but the neon wouldn't light

Ok back to the forum someone mentioned using ATX power supplies as the source (). Read the instructions and built one out of the spare ones I had, also added the variable power regulator circuit.

Third fan was a Jamicon JF 0825S. Had to melt a post into plastic. Alot quicker to setup (due to practice) Also noticed it was the same brand Imhotep had in one of the videos. This fan ran faster than the second one so will use that mainly. (Will do more tests to find out which one is more efficient).

With the ATX power supply first thing was to charge up all my AAA, AA, 9V, 12V batteries I'd been using (Alkaline, NiMh, Lead). One AAA that read 0v and looked like it had leaked a bit got thrown.

Also found a 50v 2200uF capacitor at the recycling center, (about 50mm L by 25mm). Not keen on getting zapped so I put that on the back burner till I charged up all the batteries.

Couldn't stop looking at the 50v capacitor so very carefully set up so I could meter voltage and stuck on the circuit.

Here's the results.

In:

21.4V 0.0275A 0.5885W <30 Seconds

Out:

47V 0.79A 37.13W <1 Second

Not sure this is how to test a capacitor. I brought the capacitor up to 47v (rated 50v). Took less than 30 Secs. I put the Meter on 10 Amps, it flashed 0.79A briefly (< 1 Second). Tested Volts and it read 0.

Questions?

Very curious to see what the best way of testing efficiency is?
Is it ok to add a Diode between the Collector and the Charging Battery +?


Will do more testing over the coming months, this is very addictive.

All the best.

i will be adding so easy testing proceedures very soon ,check back and it will be in this thread

[**~Imhotep~**]

when discharging caps always use a large watt resistor at 10-50 ohms maybe 10 or 15 watts (using the amp measuring section of your meter can vaporize the copper traces inside. you can try measuring a load and see the current draw ,if you get no reading you might have taken out the fuse or traces opened up . look at protection fuse if it is used in your meter . i sparked a cap to show the large and quick charging of a cap with this fan.) there should be a diode off the collector, that is the charge diode(anode goes to collector cathode goes to + of charge battery . the neon will come on when the charge battery is disconnected . if you get no neon indication when charge batt is disconnected,try adjusting potentiometer .

[Philosopher]

How I can make it work better?

Hello Imhotep.
I tried to duplicate your charger,but the best result I got is the fan running and 3V as output.As transistor I used a TIP31; IN4007 as diodes,a 2,2K carbon variable resistor;two 9V rechargeable batteries.The neon doesnt glow,probably because is rated 220V(it come come from a phasefinder screwdriver).The renmant is equal to your circuit.Please let me know how I can improve my device.

Regards,
Cyrano

[**~Imhotep~**]

the neon is merely a saftey device for the transistor, i have ran ne2's which start to fire at 60 volts and go all the way up to 120volts. The 220 volt would probably work as a protection gas tube but not light. Unless you put 24 to 36 volts into the fan (yes, ive popped 36 volts into my fan with a variable power supply, it does not hurt them, at least the ones i used).

As far as measuring the output voltage it can only be done with a scope, its so fast. But you can put a volt meter on the charge battery and see where the charge voltage is going. Ive taken most all the batteries over voltage with no damage. But if you really want to analyze the output you have to put it in a scope and remember the voltage sometimes goes over 100 volts, so keep that mind when using your probe selection.

Ps - The neons will not light when you have the charge battery on them.

I currently do not have a scope but further back in the thread you will see some have posted their scope observations. So you can see there are quite a few large spikes with these fans. I am hoping to get a scope soon, as soon as i find one that is within the price range

[Dingus]

I've managed to somehow ruin another fan with a big stroke of stupidity. unless the simple charger comes out soon, I'm going to try winding my own out of salvaged wire and stator base. At least I got both of the fans for free.

[**~Imhotep~**]

I've managed to somehow ruin another fan with a big stroke of stupidity. unless the simple charger comes out soon, I'm going to try winding my own out of salvaged wire and stator base. At least I got both of the fans for free.

Because of the hurricane I might be releasing it all earlier than anticipated. As far rewinding alot of people have rewound them and most of the magnetic structures are in an arrangement of cw,ccw,cw,ccw on the four post poles and use dual wires and try and get as many windings on it per pole, Def look back at previous post in this thread, we covered alot of detail in rewinding. Dont give up. As I said before i used pliers on a few of the stators and as careful as i was the laminates separated just a little bit, i squeezed them back together and it ran fine.

[theremart]

Testing with my fan...

I have been testing with a regulator that Lidmotor recommended, and I love it with the bedini fan!

I have been running for 3 days 24/7 now primary battery started at 12.22, it is now at 12.06 V. I am drawing 10 V at 200 MA and I have charged up 4 9V batteries and 2 AA, and 2 AAA, and now charging a Race car battery of 9V.

What I love about this is I charged the primary battery with solar cells and it should only take me a day or two with the 5 Watt cell to recharge the primary battery to 12.32V ( yes it does not put the battery to the full 14.0 v it can do, but... At least I don't need a regulator.

Now something I have tried and works well is I put another fan next to the primary fan and it will put out 3.4 V, which is good for charging up AA batteries. So very nice indeed.

I did try to modify another fan and it broke off on me even after heating it with an hair dryer... I guess you win and loose some.

I have been tempted to get the 45 W solar cells, but I am thinking that earth batteries would be a much better investment as they are 24/7.