High lights and discussion of the Quantum Key

[ashtweth]

Bravo to Aron. Lets make some practical applications now.

Given to me by a friend.

"The book is a GOOD summary of bearden's EFTV book. page 107, last paragraph

"I do not pulse the positive terminal of the capacitor to the dead battery's positive terminal. Instead, I leave the positive terminal connected and pulse the negative side of the capacitor to the negative terminal of the battery. It is not within the scope of this book to explain how this is different but it takes advantage of negative energy that is time reversed, and negentropic or self-ordering."

i know bedin's inverted circuit with the 555 timer and the SCR on the negative terminal. but i never connected that idea with the time reverse characteristic of negative terminal of the battery. "-End

[Aaron]

pulsing on negative

Thanks Ash,

The battery powers a load a little longer charged this way compared to the forward way.

Since the Bearden/Bedini Free Energy Generation book came out, I'm surprised I don't see any vids or much discussion comparing the pos way or the reverse neg way.

Here is the vid I posted to show the concept:
YouTube - Bedini Negative Energy SG capacitor discharge

The coils on that energizer are very small...but some people wonder how to pulse on neg with the SSG...you can't I don't think so you have to charge a cap or cap bank with the pos pulse from the diode...then take the cap bank and discharge the neg reversed way to a batt.

Where I really got incredible results with this is using a trifilar oscillator of 2000 turns and the 3rd isolated winding through a bridge charged the cap bank and the circuit pulsed it on the neg side to the batts...that really was quite a difference from discharging cap bank on the + to +.

If using DC impulses to wfc's, my preference is to do the same..pulse on the neg...that way the pos potential from the input power source is already sitting in the water and doesn't have to move into it.

Anyway, Xogen showed doing this in one circuit I replicated about 5 years ago but I don't think they really knew what they were doing with it...maybe they did.

[ashtweth]

Aron, great man, this is given me allot more to study Yeah i kind of wanna go down the line of the WFC tests with this, we certainly have our unit conditioned now and just need to shorten our leads, we are waiting for the plastic to turn up then lets those tests.

thats a great explanation. Aron, worthy of a write up, we are doing one, will give reference to the Key book for further study on the panacea university site also.

Ash

[Aaron]

leads

In addition to short leads, use straight lines and 90 degree turns in the wiring for optimum...that is how the radiant likes to travel.

[Sephiroth]

Hi Aaron,

Finished reading The Quantum Key a couple of days ago and first I would like to thank you for writing it! It is a wonderful introduction to how the quantum fluctuations interact with the manifest! now I'm just going backwards and forwards to try and get the whole picture in my mind and I have alot of questions for you, but my biggest question relates to magnetism...

How does magnetism fit into the picture? Which flow of energy in the wire creates a magnetic field and how does the magnetic field interact with the aether? It appears to by the poynting flow since the field is perpendicular to the flow of current on either side of a load. Would the north and south of a magnet be synonymous with negative and positive potential?

Would very much appreciate your thoughts, and thanks again for a brilliant book!

[Aaron]

Magnetic Particles

Hi Sephiroth,

I'm glad you liked it! Thank you!

I believe the poynting is probably still the voltage potential, just the part that gets into the surface of the wire and not the whole thing. Poynting had the direction wrong, according to Bearden.

The magnetic field is perpendicular to the voltage potential. The magnetic field is made of north and south magnetic particles smaller than electrons. They are fractional "charges."

When you look at a magnet, north isn't just going on the top then back down to south and not even just into the middle, etc... all the typical models.

On the North side of a magnet or electromagnetic coil...north magnetic particles are moving outwards from it and south magnetic particles are moving INTO the north field...at the SAME time.

They are the magnetic equivalent of having bi-directional potentials moving towards each other...but of a magnetic kind.

Leedskalnin thinks everything including the kitchen sink is probably made of the magnetic particles. If you want the real story that nobody really talks about, read this entire page:
Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles
Actually, probably good to save the whole thing for your own records.

That will connect a lot of dots for you. You'll enjoy it.

There is something I'll point out later in regards to this.

Anyway, you'll see a lot of "fractional charge" discovery going on these days. They're keeping in the realm of modified electrons and other things like that. I'm waiting for them to admit they are magnetic carriers...or magnetic particles.

I didn't include magnetics or spins in my book just to keep it simple. The most important thing I want people to get from my book instead of specific technical details is the overall scheme of things. To simply grok the essence of things tying seamlessly together and there is something that does tie it together.

[Sephiroth]

Thanks aaron!

I will check that link out!

... but I will be back with more questions!

Oh, I just remembered... your explaination of gravity and inertia ties in very well with the "Lifter" effect... I'm sure you have heard of it Pretty much explains how a Lifter works. Ion wind, my ass!

[ashtweth]

thanks to Aaron i can finally understand 10% of what Beardon is stating

[Aaron]

lifter and gravity

Sephiroth,

Yes, my personal opinion is there is some gravity "deflection" around the lifter from the HV. I even read a US Army document in the past that even admitted the lift couldn't be accounted for from the ion wind alone.

Thanks aaron!

I will check that link out!

... but I will be back with more questions!

Oh, I just remembered... your explaination of gravity and inertia ties in very well with the "Lifter" effect... I'm sure you have heard of it Pretty much explains how a Lifter works. Ion wind, my ass!

[Aaron]

Bearden

Ash, and that is just from my own illusionary take on Bearden. lol. I agree with most of what I understand he is saying and the rest I don't know. He really does make a lot of sense.

Of course I had to put in some of my own innovations in my book the way I see it. Anyway, I think any model that does seem to make intuitive sense like the aetheric gas model must be pretty accurate. Especially, since it predicts all the behavior in all of these "free energy" circuits.

[ashtweth]

Aaron, don't underestimate how useful the simplicity is of this, stuff, very soon as a result of our efforts the first real perfected circuit either energy saving, (like Imhotep) or OU (ravi etc) will be mainstream in the public domain. Books like this will be needed to break the ice and help.

I remember when you first talked about it, and i didn't know Aaron back then, i used to get really touchy and state man why are you selling a book, open source blah blah

But now i see it is needed and although i purchased the book any ways I still think you guys deserve more credit and resources, i have dedicate my non prift org to helping you guys. And i wont stop till i am done.

Ash

[Sephiroth]

Hi Aaron,

Back again and still a bit puzzled

Still can't quite get my head around what is happening in an inductor in terms of heaviside and poynting flow...

Let's say we have a relay that can pulse 12v across a coil so fast that current barely flows so all the coil is exposed to the the anti photon potential.

Does the coil form a magnetic field, or any other field? Is there any interaction between the coil and the anti photon potentials?

The right hand rule is a bit confusing. It makes me believe that a magnetic field is independant of the heaviside flow and completely dependant on poynting.

[Aaron]

cold electricity

Hi Sephiroth,

The first thing I would do is forget that a poynting flow even exists. Just look at the Heaviside flow and know that a certain small percentage of it can "diverge" into the copper wire.

If the voltage moves and shuts off before current can flow or before anything can really be diverged into the copper or other conductor, then would it make a magnetic field? I doubt it but if we are using true longitudinal impulses that are unidirectional, they are supposed to be independent of a magnetic field.

I talked to Peter a bit about electrostatic induction or something similar. The model he uses might be more in alignment with light/dark aether and neutral particles, etc...

I'll have to ask him for details if he feels like going into this or maybe he will see this thread.

Bottom line is that I don't know the real answer. I doubt if any human being knows the real answer but there are people who have probably way more accurate models and based on them, they can do even more with them.

One thing I want to point out that I've been shying away from even talking about but I'll mention it now is cold electricity.

Most of the "cold electricity" that people are delving into is voltage potential without current. If there is no current, then there is no resistance or heat. Therefore, it is "cold" because it doesn't get hot, but it doesn't necessarily cool below ambient.

The other cold electricity is MAGNETIC CURRENT that can perform the same work as hot electron current, but there is 0 voltage involved...and it can cool below ambient.

[Sephiroth]

Cheers Aaron, A thread on this would be great.

I was thinking this morning that the right hand rule needn't be evidence for the dependance of a magnetic field on the poynting flow.

If the negative anti photon potential and the positive anti photon potential create magnetic fields in the OPPOSITE direction to eachother, then the flux will appear to be uniform (ie travelling in the same direction) across the length of a wire.

[Aaron]

voltage potential

Hi Sephiroth,

The positive voltage potential aetheric gas is the positive photon potential and the counter or negative voltage potential is the anti-photon potential.

positive voltage potential = photon potential (not anti)
negative voltage potential = anti-photon potential

Magnetic Current is a very interesting field but nobody will figure it out reading Leedskalnin's writings. They will see it pretty clearly reading Ehrenhafts.