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  • seaad
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    MM is back today:

    He "present FACTS to the Figuera device to all those BONEHEADS on EF and OU that still think this device will not work."

    FIGUERA Mechanical general discussion | Figueramarathonman

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  • seaad
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    It 's so sad .
    I was hoping so,
    to experience how Figueras over-unity became true one day when I followed MM;s thread.
    Now is all my hope almost gone.
    I have to rely on the others followers / builders now if they show up elsewhere.

    And at overunity.com Pierre Cotnoir should by now be showing his better version "II" of the rotating magn.field OU-generator as he promised.
    Pierre Cotnoir is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Pierre Cotnoir and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.


    ( Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated )

    Arne
    Last edited by seaad; 11-10-2019, 06:40 PM.

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  • bistander
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    Good word

    Originally posted by phoneboy View Post
    One word, Karma
    Karma. My thoughts also.

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  • phoneboy
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    One word, Karma

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  • seaad
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    FIGUERA Mechanical general discussion | Figueramarathonman

    " I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Unfortunate circumstances transpired this week is forcing me to bow out of my pursuit of the Figuera device. the new owners of the property where i live are refusing to work with Veteran programs to help in my financial blight even though i have the funding lined up, i was informed today i must move. the only place i have available to me has storage for clothing only and little else other than personal items.
    i am literally being forced to sell everything i own as i have no other choice in the matter or other avenues to pursue as in short term storage. this has literally been my dream come true to pursue this device and i have put every ounce of energy, time, money i have to advance this into reality. apparently the powers that be have decided to take yet another of my dreams away from me which is literally destroying me, ripping my entire sole to the core. even as i write this being a man, i can not hold back the tears from the one thing in my life that gave me hope and passion is being ripped from my possession yet again.

    i will hold off on making definite decisions as i know things and miracles do happen when you least expect it. as of right now if things do not change i will be forced to abandon my pursuit of the Figuera device which will force me to close down this website as there will literally be no reason for it to exist. i have given my heart and sole to this device in my pursuit in the last 6 years of not only a dream come true but a chance of a lifetime to show people of this world there is still people that care and want to make a difference.

    with much regret, sorrow and pain.
    Regards,
    Marathonman "

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  • seaad
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    marathonman new board

    Home | Figueramarathonman

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  • seaad
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    Clemente Figuera

    ""Chris posted this 21 hours ago - Last edited 18 hours ago
    My Friends,

    Information I have received, Marathonman is going else where.

    It appears the rules here are intolerable.

    I wish him Luck in his endeavors. All his followers, I also wish Luck.

    I am locking this thread, for the likes of Aetherholic and others that have greater understanding and working machines, I ask please create new threads on your machines when you are ready.

    Chris ""

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    Aetherholic posted this 08 October 2018
    So trolls and "debunkers" have a use after all!!!!.

    One thing I would like to report at this stage is that my part G core as built is overunity without any feedback. The COP is between 1.2 and 2.33 depending upon load conditions. If anyone wants to debunk that then build one for yourself. It took great effort to build it so the same effort is required to debunk it. In operation its characteristics are a rectifier+magamp+battery+AC modulator+amplifier.

    Aetherholic - One truth, One field

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    MM, Bye

    Regards Arne
    Last edited by seaad; 07-17-2019, 06:29 PM.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by Turion
    When I see some of the builds on the forum attempting to replicate the work of people from the past, like Figuera, I always wonder which Radio Shack (before they went out of business of course) he got all HIS parts from. Or perhaps his method was far more SIMPLE than the stuff that is proposed here and he didn't NEED things he could not MAKE HIMSELF?????
    Figuera ordered his "Controller" from Germany...obviously He could not build it himself.



    Ufopolitics

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Wrong way. Figuera did first exactly what we should today .... started from existing working generator
    Yes Boguslaw!!

    You are 100% right!!


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    I have some questions.

    " the primaries reduced to 50% "
    What?? : Power, Voltage, Current, B

    Regards Arne
    Hello seaad,

    "Primary (#1) reduced to 50% is referring to FIELD STRENGTH

    Only thing here (on Figuera in general) is that we must account for a "compression rate" calculation, between both interacting primary fields, and not only based on Field Strength percentages.

    Magnetic Fields are very flexible, and even more whenever there is a repulsion between both end fields, therefore, it is very hard to trace the center between both when we weaken-strengthen each others...

    Regards


    Ufopolitics
    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 03-26-2019, 07:17 PM.

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  • boguslaw
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    100W is only probably for driving the motor operating complex commutator
    Look at my post above - 20kW may be for example 10 units operating in series or parallel
    and each unit is made of 10 "spokes" each producing 200W
    The way it is proposed so far is mostly garbage and never reach OU

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  • seaad
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    I have some questions.

    History from various forums:

    Figuera Input 100 Volt --> 100 W Input / Output: 10 kW - 20 kW ( a motor and some bulbs)

    Is it DC Watts input??

    If so the summary load (Z) resistance in all primarys + G is 100 Ohm
    and the mean input current is 1 Ampere ( P= U x I )


    Quote from Be part of something Better - www.aboveunity.com

    MM; "Please remember folks, the primaries are ONLY reduced to clear the secondary then back to full potential as the other primary is reduced. at NO time is the primaries reduced past 50% or to zero. if you do this induction will fail as the compression of field lines is or was not maintained thus induction will fail and the output will plummet to almost nothing."

    " the primaries reduced to 50% "
    What?? : Power, Voltage, Current, B

    Regards Arne
    Last edited by seaad; 03-25-2019, 10:45 AM.

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  • boguslaw
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    Wrong way. Figuera did first exactly what we should today .... started from existing working generator

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  • seaad
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    Originally posted by citfta View Post
    Hi Ufo,
    BUT, although I tried multiple different methods of driving the primary coils and various ways of coupling them to the secondary I was never able to get more than about 20% power transfer to the secondary.
    Carroll
    Still much better than this first try below:


    Quote: "The increase in voltage leads to strong heating of the coils. The average current flowing through the coil is about 0.28A. The current is consuming by the power part from the grid is 0,275A x 220V = 60W. The output voltage in the range of 1.38 - 2.08 V at a load of 50 Ohms (cold lamp 75W). The frequency response is almost linear in the range of 40-400 Hz, decreasing at the beginning and end due to the measuring device.

    Эксперимент №1 провален. Правильное размещение катушек не обнаружено.

    Experiment #1 is failed. The proper placement of the coils is not found."

    Input: 14 W
    Output: O.008 W

    (Figuera ??? Input: 100 W Output: 10 kW - 20 kW)

    Arne

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    PS: Quote;
    "As i have warned everyone, the primary cores MUST be larger than that of the secondaries by at least 2-1. at 1-1 the field will be to weak to reach the opposite side of the secondary and maintain pressure needed.
    Marathonman


    creasysee; Hi Marathonman!
    Yes! It will be tested in an eperiment #2!

    @ creasysee
    You should have a great praise for showing your results publicly.
    Good luck
    Last edited by seaad; 03-27-2019, 09:40 AM.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by citfta View Post
    Hi Ufo,

    And when he does that what will happen? I tried a couple of different ways to generate the proper signal. And those worked to get a varying DC signal of opposite phase. BUT, although I tried multiple different methods of driving the primary coils and various ways of coupling them to the secondary I was never able to get more than about 20% power transfer to the secondary.

    I know you were working on this also. Were you ever able to get the primary and secondary to work like some have claimed?

    Or has anyone been able to get the power transfer that is claimed?


    Take care,
    Carroll
    Hello Citfta,

    Having only a 20% transfer to secondaries is way too small, so there should be something wrong somewhere in your setup.

    The way Figuera presents his 1908 Patent, is very simple, basic, accomplishing what any patent requirement demands in order to be protected, and that is to be written NOT with any specifications nor any details, other words, making it as "general" as possible.

    But after going over this invention for a while, anyone could have thought that using two primaries per one single secondary, sets the whole thing in a very, very disadvantaged generator.

    If we must generate two magnetic fields (on a two primary set) to Induce just one sandwiched coil (secondary) out of just one pole of each field...we are wasting the other two poles out to the air. As it is very "optimistic" to think we will reach, even a higher percentage of efficiency.

    The second issue to travel into higher efficiency, is to have both magnetic fields (plus secondary, of course) within the same core...

    We would do this approach more efficient if we use a rounded (not square) core...like a Toroid.

    So, we sandwich alternatively, two secondaries being induced by the same two primaries we previously had inducing just one secondary. This way we are using both ends (poles) of the exciting field.

    This is not new, MarathonMan and me, have posted this before...on the Figuera Thread.

    That Toroid above, is just one "Module"...of as many as you would like to build.


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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