Diy magnetic field scope/a scanline e-beam plane imaging tool.

[bistander]

Electric propulsion

Hi Ufo,

Many of the vehicles in groups 2, 3 & 4 do use electric motor propulsion systems. And electric powered aircraft is rapid developing. I have seen where NASA has worked on an electric 747.

What about high speed rail. The fastest trains in the world are electric. And that power could easily be generated by hydro or renewable sources not using carbon emitting technology.

I am actually attempting to help you. Pointing out a flaw or discrepancy in your theories could be constructive criticism leading to deeper uderstanding. But taking a defensive posture is only human nature.

BTW, I've said before. Show me an over unity machine and I'll replicate it. I've built and tested many energy machines which I knew would work. I avoid building stuff I know won't work.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Not a Spin??...really Bistander?

Hi Ufo,

I do not see spin on the CRT.

Respectfully and regards,

bi

So, YOU do not "SEE" a CLEAR SPIN on the CRT whenever we approach a NORTH or a SOUTH?


Really?...SO, please allow me to explain it in FIRST GRADE SIMPLE GEOMETRY like to an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID:



So, above we have a BLUE LINE "L", which could be a simple LEVER.

Then we have a PIVOT POINT IN the RED CIRCLE, located EXACTLY at CENTER of BLUE LINE "L"

Now we will apply FORCES "F1"+"F2" to BLUE LINE "L" In such fashion that FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" follow OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS as seen above...

Both FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" are EQUIDISTANT TO CENTER PIVOT POINT IN RED CIRCLE, This DISTANCE IS NAMED "D1"...which establishes what is known as a RADIUS DISTANCE BETWEEN POINTS WHERE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE ACTUATING.

AFTER FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE APPLIED OVER BLUE LINE "L", and according to simple PHYSICS LAWS...BLUE LINE "L" TAKES THE POSITION L'...

So, my dear Elementary School Student Bistander, from First Grade Class of Simple Geometry...we then can conclude that :

WE HAVE ROTATED OR SPUN (PAST TENSE OF SPIN) THE BLUE LINE "L", DUE TO THE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" FROM THE CENTER POINT IN THE RED CIRCLE.

Now in case you still have not seen any Spins or Rotations on above Image...I took the time to make same image but with a BLACK BACKGROUND, in order to stand out all the components in the explanation...Yes, I know I am a good teacher...



And by now...if you still do not see any spins in BOTH IMAGES above, My dear Student....then I will have no other recourse but to submit you to the Psychology Dept. of the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL to run some tests...JUST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A SYNDROME OF ATTENTION...OR WHAT IS CALLED ADHD:

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a mental disorder of the neurodevelopmental type. It is characterized by problems paying attention, excessive activity, or difficulty controlling behavior which is not appropriate for a person's age.

Even though I hope to see you soon in my next class...


Be a good kid and stay out of trouble.


God Bless You


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Part ii

How many joules of work have been done by a machine designed using Mr. Wheeler's theories? Not one.

Faraday put forward a Theory only proven by small models...and so MANY OPPOSED to those explanations, basically the "Mathematicians" of his times...until James Clerk Maxwell stepped in...

And by having people like you, that constantly interfere, INTERRUPTS, anytime someone tries to explain any Theory other than the DOGMATIC CLASSIC ONE that YOU DEFEND...Then it would be much harder to ever come up with a Machine based on those Theories which YOU and many OTHERS HERE try TO BLOCK ALL THE TIME!!!

I can't compete with your graphic skills

But CAN YOU COMPETE with my BUILDING SKILLS?...I am pretty sure you COULD!!...HOWEVER, I HAVE BEVER SEEN YOU BUILD NADA, WHETHER TO PROVE WRONG OR RIGHT ANY CLAIMS DONE ON THIS FORUM!!

ALL YOU DO HERE, is "step in" and then blablablabla and then MORE BLABLABLABLABLA...then bring stuff from all over the net which REINFORCES your 200 YEARS obsolete and DOGMATIC Theories.

I just have millions of engineers and scientists on my side and an enlightened and electrified society to prove it.

You ONLY HAVE MILLIONS of PEOPLE who were TAUGHT THE VERY WRONG AND DOGMATIC SCIENCES.

BY WHOM?...BY GE CORPORATIONS, BY THOMAS ALVA EDISON CRAPPY WORK, BY ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TEACHING DOGMAS THAT DO NOT ALLOW ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING WHICH COULD ENDANGER THEIR LIFESTYLES BASED ON OIL EXPLOITATION FOR 200 YEARS!!

You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.

Regards,

bi

The day you come here and show me ELECTRIC MOTORS RUNNING "JUST" ALL THE FOUR (1,2,3,4) ITEMIZED BRANCHES OF THE INDUSTRY I HAVE CITED ABOVE...THEN I WILL STOP POSTING HERE.

The DAY A TESLA ELECTROMAGNETIC VEHICLE , OR ANY OTHER ONE could run from Florida to Alaska WITHOUT "RECHARGING" ...A NON STOP "FLIGHT"!!!...THEN I WILL STOP INSISTING ON NEWER THEORIES!!!

And I only HOPE, AND WISH THAT DAY COMES ANYTIME SOON...


God Bless You.



Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

200 ears of Electromagnetic Achievements??!!...give ME A BRAKE!!!

Motors and generators have been converting energy and doing work for humankind for nearly two centuries. These machines must number in the billions. They all have been designed and operate based on these classic principles which I have learned and attempt to teach.

What kind of work have ELECTRIC MOTORS being doing for the past 200 years??!!

-Apart from propelling fans, exhausting and heat sinking HEAT?
-Apart from powering SOME small tools, lifting windows in vehicles and running paper and rolling color cartridges in jet printers?
- Apart from running dirty laundry on Electrical Washers and Dryers...or Hairdriers?
- Plus all the minor and LIGHT INDUSTRY NEEDS?

NOW, IN ALL THOSE 200 YEARS, TELL ME...WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC MOTOR POWERING:

1- OR LIFTING UP AND FLYING A Heavy Aircraft like a JUMBO 747 POWERED by ELECTROMAGNETIC TURBINES?

2- PROPELLING A CRUISE-LINER SHIP THROUGH OUR OCEANS?

3- And so, RUNNING A GREYHOUND BUS FULL OF PASSENGERS OR AN EIGHTEEN WHEELER PETER-BUILT LOAD TRUCK?

4- OR CONSTRUCTION HEAVY EQUIPMENT, LIKE BACKHOES, CATERPILLARS, ROLLERS, CRANES, ETC,ETC??

LET ME ANSWER FOR YOU...


NEVER, EVER IN 200 YEARS!!

ONLY IN KID'S TOYS Bistander...


ALL THIS "HERCULEAN WORK" HAS BEEN DONE ALL THESE TWO HUNDRED YEARS BY THE STINKING, FARTING AND ETERNAL LEAKING GAS AND DIESEL MACHINES!!!

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT GENERATORS?...REALLY?

I would just ask you a simple question...

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC GENERATOR RUN BY AN ELECTRIC MOTOR IN ANY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OR EVEN IN A SMALL HOUSE?

NEVER LAND!!

SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL PROUD OFF ABOUT ALL THIS "ACHIEVEMENTS BY ELECTRIC MOTORS AND GENERATORS IN ALL THESE 200 YEARS??


TO BE CONTINUED...

[bistander]

Motors and generators have been converting energy and doing work for humankind for nearly two centuries. These machines must number in the billions. They all have been designed and operate based on these classic principles which I have learned and attempt to teach. How many joules of work have been done by a machine designed using Mr. Wheeler's theories? Not one.

I can't compete with your graphic skills or Ken's vocabulary. I just have millions of engineers and scientists on my side and an enlightened and electrified society to prove it.

You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

Thanks for the invite, but I decline. There are much better teachers and text on Lorentz than myself. I said I was done with the interruption in my previous post, and I am.

Hey Bistander,

Well, what can I say...your decline of my humble offer...in order for you to step in and clarify what you were so sure concluding with such simplicity it sounded like a "piece of cake"...only leave me room for disappointment and doubts as to the veracity of your conclusions and capability to demonstrate it.

Folks should appreciate opposing points of view, don't you think?

I'm back to the sidelines,

bi

But of course!!..

EXCEPT, the only problem being, Bistander...that you have stepped into my Thread, knowing that I BACK UP in a 100% Ken Wheeler's Theories and Claims FOR A HECK OF A LONG TIME...and that I have made so many EXPENSIVE YT videos, so many comments on this Forum, on so many Threads about the SAME EXACT CLAIMS...in order to demonstrate them, PLUS BACKUP ALL THESE THEORIES...WORK which has been going on for years by now...and still is right here.

But then you've decided to step in just to tell me, at this stage in time...about your position -WHICH I KNOW FOR SUCH LONG TIME- related to Dielectric Field Planes or Equatorial Planes or Bloch Walls...like it is all about a "NEW DISCUSSION"...AND IT AIN'T!!!

We all know you by now, Bistander, and there is absolutely no need, every time anyone mentions the word "Dielectric Field" that you have to jump like some sort of high compressed then all the sudden released spring...or a Jumping Jack Flash.

What I still can not "catch up" (understand) about your behavior -except for the purpose of disruption- is why do you still need to step in -every time- to deny any theories that rise around you, just because you have the belief that your still CLASSIC THEORIES are the right ones?...because YOU THINK, because YOU BELIEVE You HOLD THE TRUTH in your hands...and so NO ONE ELSE CAN?!

Is that why Bistander?

IF SO...Then PLEASE, GO AND REVIVE THE ORIGINAL OLD THREAD BY KEN WHEELER, WHERE THOSE THEORIES WERE PRESENTED ORIGINALLY HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME...:

UNCOVERING THE MISSING SECRETS OF MAGNETISM

Then seat down and wait to see if Ken comes by to respond or SOMEONE ELSE AROUND HERE DOES YOU, THE FAVOR TO ANSWER...

Do NOT count on me...am too busy.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

No thanks

Hi Ufo,

Thanks for the invite, but I decline. There are much better teachers and text on Lorentz than myself. I said I was done with the interruption in my previous post, and I am.

Folks should appreciate opposing points of view, don't you think?

I'm back to the sidelines,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

Sorry I interrupted your presentation with a bit of convention and logic.

That ain't logic, that ain't convention, that is purely imposing your beliefs over mine.

I'll shut up and let you continue after I address your last question.

I do not see spin on the CRT. Just the results of what can be fully explained by Lorentz Force Equation. That is the orthogonal relationship between the vectors of velocity (of the charge), magnetic field and force (on that charge).

Respectfully and regards,

bi

You do not see a Spin here?...what is a CENTER steady point while two exterior forces are applied to this line following exactly same direction plus using identical radius distances from that center point?

But, please don't shut up...by all means, be my guest of honor here!!

I will completely stop posting and allow you to step in and start explaining all your bold out and underlined statements above about Lorentz Forces...

I really wanna enjoy you doing it here...

But I want you to do it with YOUR OWN GRAPHICS, YOUR OWN DIAGRAMS, YOUR OWN PICTURES AND YOUR OWN TESTINGS, AND WHATEVER OTHER VISUALS MEANS YOU WANT TO USE...

MEANING, DO IT just like I DO IT...With my own graphics and my own images and my own experiments.

So, nope, do not start downloading unrelated stuff from all over the net (like you normally do) then posting it here, because then I will ask Aaron for you to erase all your comments and then leave this (my) Thread...got it?

SO, PLEASE BE SPECIFIC ABOUT APPLYING LORENTZ ON THIS EXACT SCENARIO: CRT HORIZONTAL & FRONTAL SCANLINE VERSUS THE TWO MAGNETIC POLARITIES...BEHAVIOR.

I wanna see your OWN 3D Volume Geometric Math here based on Lorentz Forces.

Have in mind that the "Charged Particle q" is negative here...and it is accelerated by Electron Beam Gun, plus rastered at around 15 Khz Field Reversals to produce that nice straight line on the fluorescent phosphoric material of screen.



Enjoy and am out of here...the room, microphones, lights and cameras are all yours!!


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

Regards,

bi

[bistander]

Later

...
Now, how do you EXPLAIN EACH POLARIZATIONS OPPOSITE SPIN CLEARLY SHOWN?
...

Hi Ufo,

Sorry I interrupted your presentation with a bit of convention and logic. I'll shut up and let you continue after I address your last question.

I do not see spin on the CRT. Just the results of what can be fully explained by Lorentz Force Equation. That is the orthogonal relationship between the vectors of velocity (of the charge), magnetic field and force (on that charge).

Respectfully and regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

I don't buy it. I think you're grasping for straws. There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

Regards,

bi

Bistander, and am NOT selling nada...
You asked me about a test, and I did so, plus I knew your requested test was not to discuss in a normal way, but end it up in your typical disagreement fashion...
Now, how do you EXPLAIN EACH POLARIZATIONS OPPOSITE SPIN CLEARLY SHOWN?
PLUS demonstration of ONE FORCE SPIN when incorporated into 3D?
Do NOT wanna talk about that part huh?

I will end up saying THIS IS NOT ALL...NOT FINISHED YET, BUT JUST STARTING UP.


Take care


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

O.K.

I knew you were gonna ask about this...

It is simple Bistander, in above settings the E-Beam Scanline Plane is PERPENDICULAR to the Dielectric Field Plane, therefore, both planes only INTERSECT at a center point, or line if we are talking about planes 3D...what I mean here is that Dielectric/Scanline Planes Intersection is reduced to a THIN LINE or a POINT on Screen...whichever way you wanna look at this... 2D or 3D...

While majority of magnetic forces from both polarizations (N-S) are EMANATING right from very CENTER area of magnet to DIVERT IN A SPIN towards each Spatial End Area in a 3D Curve which keeps pushing the Scanline Plane in the Spinning Direction of the whole Field (Both Poles Forcing plane in same direction), in above image we are seeing BOTH POLES SPINNING FORCES, in the same direction PUSHING Scanline Plane UPWARDS to top of screen.

Why HIGHER Deflection at Center of Screen?...simple, because there are exactly TWO FORCES PUSHING right at center Scanline Plane, while also DIVERGING (Splitting) away as well, which actually fades out forces as it turns in 3D away from screen TOWARDS both opposite ends, just like any curvy-linear or Torsion Force acts in SPACE, except here we have Dual Torsion Forces plus diverging (fading) away to both ends...
...

Hi Ufo,

I don't buy it. I think you're grasping for straws. There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Why then is there maximum deflection of the scan line in that zone in the test here?

I knew you were gonna ask about this...

It is simple Bistander, in above settings the E-Beam Scanline Plane is PERPENDICULAR to the Dielectric Field Plane, therefore, both planes only INTERSECT at a center point, or line if we are talking about planes 3D...what I mean here is that Dielectric/Scanline Planes Intersection is reduced to a THIN LINE or a POINT on Screen...whichever way you wanna look at this... 2D or 3D...

While majority of magnetic forces from both polarizations (N-S) are EMANATING right from very CENTER area of magnet to DIVERT IN A SPIN towards each Spatial End Area in a 3D Curve which keeps pushing the Scanline Plane in the Spinning Direction of the whole Field (Both Poles Forcing plane in same direction), in above image we are seeing BOTH POLES SPINNING FORCES, in the same direction PUSHING Scanline Plane UPWARDS to top of screen.

Why HIGHER Deflection at Center of Screen?...simple, because there are exactly TWO FORCES PUSHING right at center Scanline Plane, while also DIVERGING (Splitting) away as well, which actually fades out forces as it turns in 3D away from screen TOWARDS both opposite ends, just like any curvy-linear or Torsion Force acts in SPACE, except here we have Dual Torsion Forces plus diverging (fading) away to both ends...

Next question:

No, because the lines of flux are perpendicular to the beam so the resulting forces on the charges (electrons) are parallel to the scanline, so do not deflect it.

Thanks again for the test.

bi

As you have noticed from all previous CRT images...this Electron Beam Scanline reveals perfectly well when it is precisely aligned in a PERPENDICULAR Fashion to the Field Planes/Axis (lines).

First when we project Magnetic Field Poles AXIS, where Spin REVOLVES in a 3D Plane, which is exactly Perpendicular to the Scanline Plane...then we clearly see each pole spinning direction.

Second, and as you have shown above...whenever the Scanline Plane is Perpendicular to the Dielectric Plane.

Third, in your proposed test Dielectric Plane was PARALLEL to Scanline Plane...so, no go, nothing, boring right?

Now, I agree that in order to fully understand what I am writing above...basically answering your first question, I will have to build the whole model in 3D View, where I show the Three Dimensional Curvatures coming out from center plane and flowing towards opposite extremes (Divergence) of the Magnetic Field Polarizations...while showing a Full 3D Scanline Plane on CRT only...without any black and opaque tube, but mainly the E-Beam Rastered Plane being TWISTED by the Magnetic Spinning Forces...

..and I will eventually do that further on...it must be on a video to capture the 3D Views plus animated dynamics of both 3d curvy-linear flows...


EDIT: We have to realize that this Magnetic Spatial Spins are PARTIAL

[bistander]

Thanks for running the test

...

The E-Beam Zero Scanline will not be affected at all (zero deflection) when passing PARALLEL and ALIGNED through the Dielectric Field Plane, or Equatorial Plane.
...
This Equatorial Plane Zone is completely "inactive" from magnetism or better said, not captured within our dimension because it is taking place in Counterspace.
...

Why then is there maximum deflection of the scan line in that zone in the test here?

Next question:

...
On the other hand, as seen on iron filings views of the Magnetic Field...where there is "no center" shown, but straight lines crossing between both poles (heavy "traffic"), then E-Beam should reflect -at least- some "activity"

No, because the lines of flux are perpendicular to the beam so the resulting forces on the charges (electrons) are parallel to the scanline, so do not deflect it.

Thanks again for the test.

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Scanning Dielectric Counterspace Field...

Boring....... ______________ .

Exactly Bistander, just the same "boring" Flat Line...nothing happens...

Please show horizontal line when magnet(s) are turned red up and blue down, centered left to right.

Thanks in advance,

bi

And it don't matter whether South or North is Up...same, exact result takes place...

The E-Beam Zero Scanline will not be affected at all (zero deflection) when passing PARALLEL and ALIGNED through the Dielectric Field Plane, or Equatorial Plane.

I have repeatedly mentioned this fact before, and it has been CLEARLY observed previously with...

MAGNETIC VIEW FILM

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And FERROCELL

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This Equatorial Plane Zone is completely "inactive" from magnetism or better said, not captured within our dimension because it is taking place in Counterspace.

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Actually, as previously written by K. Wheeler, this is where magnetism returns back as also emanates from its origin, Aether, which is in Counterspace.

If you have one of this CRT Scanline Tools, then you could see how THIN is this Plane, where a minimal, slight turn of the Magnet Axis, will rapidly start showing either North or South Spinning Patterns, depending on the tilting direction of the very narrow angle.

Surprised with results?...Were you expecting other deflection's Patterns here?...please share your thoughts...

On the other hand, as seen on iron filings views of the Magnetic Field...where there is "no center" shown, but straight lines crossing between both poles (heavy "traffic"), then E-Beam should reflect -at least- some "activity"