The "h" wave form

[Jetijs]

No, the neon is needed to protect the transistor. Also you should not leave the motor running with no charging battery attached longer than a few seconds, because so you will damage your tansistor. The neon will protect it for a while, nut not for long. The battery does an excellent job in absorbing those spikes, thats why you do not see them on the scope when the charging battery is attached, but if you disconnect it for a short time, all the spike energy goes through the neon and you can see that on the scope.

[gabriolaman]

ok thanks for the tips mate

[Jetijs]

You are welcome. I hope I could help

[albertMunich]

H Wave across the battery

Hello,

this is what the h wave looks like when the scope is connected across the battery...behind the diode on the collector.


Albert

[theremart]

Wow, I love seeing this h !

Did you add a circuit for the sound card oscilloscope to protect the sound card before doing this? If so, I would like to know what you used!

Thanks

Here is my H wave form

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/364-bedini-sg-2.html#post10453

Enjoy ...
Elias

[kumaran]

Drive and trigger coil wave

Hi guys,

I was testing Bedini Motor SSG circuit for electrolysis. Yesterday, I took some photos on drive and trigger coil during load (Two 3W bulbs in series with electrolyser). I'm not sure if this "h" you are talking about.

FYI, I never try to charge secondary batteries.

[albertMunich]

Hello,
I also tried to do electrolysis with this process. Could you tell us more about your results? with my 5 coil machine I seem to get more gas than normal. the waves pretty much look like this . can you say more about the plates used and how many you have? I use stainless steel kitchen sink filters readily available here. Up to 10 plates sandwiched together with a PVC bolt and individually connected. Note the grey coating on the negative plates, too.
I think it is most important that more people try this. I see a clear connection between the low voltage electrolysis process and the bedini radiant pulse. I would also like to ask Dr Lindemann or john bedini himself if they have ever tried this.

Albert

[kumaran]

Clever idea

Hi Albert,

That is very clever idea for using SS kitchen sink filters for electrodes. I'm using 16 pieces of 6" x 6" SS 304 plates to make 8 cells. The gap between plates is 1.2mm (used 1.2mm nylon washer as cell spacer). Until today, I find amps is the one doing work to generate hydroxy and not high voltage. Cell needs just 2V to produce gas and above than that is just waste of power. Using 10A@12V and 10A@2V will produce same amount of gas.

Since I'm using only single stator to drive the motor, I can't expect much gas. I have connected ammeter to measure input draw (battery -> ammeter -> circuit) and output draw (collector -> diode -> ammeter -> cell).

I find input and output amps are almost same (0.1A) using 12VDC as source. For 24VDC as source, input amps still 0.1A but output is 0.2A. For 36VDC as source, input amps still 0.1A but output is 0.3A. I use analog meter to measure the amps so can't measure accurately but can see the differences. When power of the circuit, magnetic rotor still produce power to cell until the rotor fully stop. This is one great advantage using Bedini SSG as battery charger or for electrolysis.

Never ever apply high VDC without load. By doing this, 2N3055 will get fried. I have even tried motorbike spark coil to induce high voltage for electrolysis. I got poor results and that is why I said the amps are the one doing work for electrolysis and not the voltage.

[elias]

I am using a PC based oscilloscope

Wow, I love seeing this h !

Did you add a circuit for the sound card oscilloscope to protect the sound card before doing this? If so, I would like to know what you used!

Thanks

I was about to buy an oscilloscope so I decided to buy one that is capable of more functions on the PC, so I bought a PC-based one. It works fine although I burnt out one of the channels by connecting it to a high voltage (about 1000v) mistakenly!!

Elias

[theremart]

Re: H

I was about to buy an oscilloscope so I decided to buy one that is capable of more functions on the PC, so I bought a PC-based one. It works fine although I burnt out one of the channels by connecting it to a high voltage (about 1000v) mistakenly!!

Elias

Cool.

Yes, I still remember the day I put the 12V to to 5V on a SCII hard drive. Grey smoke is not my color

If I may what oscilloscope did you get? I am so tempted to get one.

[elias]

Cool.

Yes, I still remember the day I put the 12V to to 5V on a SCII hard drive. Grey smoke is not my color

If I may what oscilloscope did you get? I am so tempted to get one.

Hi

The main advantage of these scopes over the desktop ones:
1- Small in size,
2- Capable of FFT and storage of data
3- Cheap price

The drawbacks:
1- Some may be a bit slow
2- Requires a PC to operate

I got TNM PC BASED DIGITAL STORAGE OSCILLOSCOPE -DSO, for about 200$, but it may not be available in your country. There are many other types. You can check them out.

Regards
Elias