BEMF current reversal.

[Allen Burgess]

Here's a quote from Tinman:

"When we send a current through a coil,a magnetic field starts to build from 0. This creates an EMF that apposes the current flow from the source. Second-when that current flow is interupted,the magnetic field collapses back through the windings,back to 0. This creates our inductive kickback,where the voltage polarity inverts across the coil,but the current continues to flow in the same direction through the coil".

The power he's talking about with the reversed voltage polarity, may be traveling in the the same wire but it's in a different lane then the power that came from the source and it turns in the opposite direction towards the reverse ground when it exits.

This guy from down under, who is rewriting the English dictionary to misspell does in Australian as dose, is a certified nut case.

The BEMF is reversed current that is traveling in the opposite direction through the path of least resistance which may make it appear as if the current is traveling in the same direction, but it's not! It's like sending a bar magnet through the wire. The magnet has to come out the same exit but the polarity is reversed.

Another analogy is that a guy boards a bus and begins to walk toward the back of the bus as the bus pulls away from the curb. Now it may appear to a bystander that the passenger is traveling backwards on the bus while the bus is moving in the opposite direction. The current is actually traveling in the other direction while it appears to be headed for the same destination as the positive current. This is a huge and criminal mistake to imagine it's actually traveling the other way.

BEMF current can't really travel in the direction Brad says it does because it merely concludes in an anhilative short circuit, not continued current flow, if it's not correctly channeled to it's correct ground polarity.

Brad says the current is traveling the same way when each current has an opposite ground polarity in the same wire. The correct perspective is to view the BEMF reverse current as traveling in the opposite direction from the positive current while at the same time passing in parallel through the same wire. The negative current dies and generates waste heat if it's not channeled home to it's correct pole.

The BEMF originates in the coil as the source and travels away from the coil outward. The input current travels from the source into the coil and the coil is the destination. These are opposite directions. The negative ground destination of the input current is the opposite ground of the reverse output power that originates inside the coil. They may appear to travel in the same direction while they are actually in transit to opposite polarity destinations.

Tinman hasn't returned to his Non-Sense motor thread over at Overunity Research for over two months, largely because he's very confused about what he's doing. I designed the "H" bridge monopole to demonstrate how to best utilize the reversal circuit to deliver the return of the entire input power pulse.

[Allen Burgess]

BEMF current direction.

The input wire can be compared to a tube with lanes for travel in each direction. The input enters from the right and the BEMF exits to the left or positive electrode. The reverse current annihilates itself if it's exits the wrong direction.

Flyback current is in no way traveling in the same direction when it's coming out of the wire it went into with the polarity reversed, and not forward to the negative ground.

The path of least resistance has nothing to do with current direction. The assertion that current can have a value different from it's voltage polarity is ridiculous nonsense!

These guys got caught telling people that BEMF current was headed in the same direction when it's headed nowhere because it simply annihilates itself at their chosen exit. What's current annihilation look like? A blue jumping spark! Think of the absurdity of this position!

[Allen Burgess]

Current reversal.

The current flow is positive when it charges the windings to generate and store itself in a magnetic field; The current flow is negative when the magnetic field collapses and the electricity is once again stored in the capacitance between the windings. Negative current is positive current flowing backwards.

Members here on this forum like Citfta, do not understand the nature of A.C. current. They ask how current can go backwards and forwards at the same time? The answer is very simple: Imagine yourself in the passenger car of a moving train; You get up from your seat and walk backwards toward the lavatory, then turn around and return to your seat all the time while the train's moving the same way, just like an A.C. electron.

[Allen Burgess]

Steinmetz on "Negative Current":

At 5:15 in this video, Master Ivo describes "Negative Current" as Steinmetz explained it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LclozdKdZRc

[bistander]

Mis-stating

Quote from Tesla:

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Tesla states that the potential difference between the bifilar windings is 250,000 times greater than the ordinary coil ...

He does not state that.

For his example he states the bifilar will have a potential difference between adjacent turns of 50V whereas the standard coil would have only a tenth of a volt between adjacent turns. 500 times greater potential difference.

[Allen Burgess]

Tesla series bifilar flyback

Quote from Tesla:

" Let A, Fig. 1, designate any given coil the spires or convolutions of which are wound upon and insulated from each other. Let it be assumed that the terminals of this coil show a potential difference of one hundred volts, and that there are one thousand convolutions; then considering any two contiguous points on adjacent convolutions let it be assumed that there will exist between them a potential difference of one-tenth of a volt. If now, as shown in Fig. 2, a conductor B be wound parallel with the conductor A and insulated from it, and the end of A be connected with the starting point of B, the aggregate length of the two conductors being such that the assumed number of convolutions or turns is the same, viz., one thousand, then the potential difference between any two adjacent points in A and B will be fifty volts, and as the capacity effect is proportionate to the square of this difference, the energy stored in the coil(2) as a whole will now be two hundred and fifty thousand as great(1). Following out this principle, I may wind any given coil either in whole or in part, not only in the specific manner herein illustrated, but in a great variety of ways, well-known in the art, so as to secure between adjacent convolutions such potential difference as will give the proper capacity to neutralize the self-induction for any given current that may be employed. Capacity secured in this particular way possesses an additional advantage in that it is evenly distributed, a consideration of the greatest importance in many cases, and the results, both as to efficiency and economy, are the more readily and easily obtained as the size of the coils, the potential difference, or frequency of the currents are increased. "

Tesla states that the potential difference between the bifilar windings is 250,000 times greater than the ordinary coil and that this high capacity neutralizes the self induction for any given current. That's why there's no "Flyback" as evostars points out; It's the very high "H" field. Cancellation of self inductance has nothing to do with resonant frequency; It's a consequence of the stored electrical charge.

[Allen Burgess]

OU Overhead light and fan.

Gadgetmall replaces his battery with a capacitor in his follow up video. The primary capacitor charge rises while the motor's running. The ferrite core permeability needs to be high enough (Around 1000) to increase the coil's positive pulse magnetic field, then quickly de-magnetize to act as a "Flyback" transformer core. The positive pulse generates a smaller amount of A.C. current through the "Piggyback Secondary Coil" too. The relative permeability of the ferrite core would need to increase in order to raise the motor R.P.M.

Gadgetmall's AKA (Fusionchip)'s design would work well as an overhead fan and room light. The advantage is that it could run 24/7 with zero electrical input.

Why no one has ever replicated this design, or tried to develop a production model after nearly 8 1/2 years remains a big mystery?

[Allen Burgess]

Negative D.C. flyback pulse to A.C. transformer.

Flyback transformer:

Fusionchip's ferrite core linked primary and secondary coils are a "Negative D.C. Pulse" transformer that generates A.C. current out of his "Piggyback" secondary. The collapsing field of the primary generates a "Negative" D.C. pulse that induces a magnetic field in the ferrite core. The magnetic field first generates a positive current in the piggyback secondary, followed by a negative one from the collapse of the magnetic field in the ferrite core; So we get an A.C. sine wave from the "Piggyback Secondary".

Fusionchip passes the A.C. secondary output through a full wave bridge rectifier before it's directed to a separate storage capacitor. This capacitor is connected to the power battery through a diode. This setup is self sustaining!

[Allen Burgess]

Ohms and Inductance.

We can calculate for Ohms with sufficient data, or measure for them with a DMM.

Same goes for Reluctance. We can calculate for "Inverse Henries" or measure for them with an "Inductance Meter". "Inverse Henries" and "Negative Henries" are both measures of inductor field strength. The stronger the inductor magnetic field, the more it resists a change in current.

Remember: A negative corollary has an inverse relationship between two variables.

Every "B" field stores a tiny amount of electric power in an "H" field. The "H" field is directly proportional to the strength of the "B" field. The inductance meter measures the "H" field and converts the measurement into "Negative Henries" which in turn can be factored into the "B" field strength in Teslas and Gauss.

Milehigh and Tinselkoala couldn't answer specific questions about the amount of power it would require to generate 1 Tesla of magnetic force in an inductor of 1 Henry of inductance. Ramset alleged that they're just trying to help me out; It could be that they're just that ignorant.

[Allen Burgess]

Negative and Inverse.

An upside down cup is filled with negative coffee. A negative corollary has an inverse relationship between two variables.

[Allen Burgess]

Induction kills flyback

"Fusionchip's" SSG primary induction coil receives a power pulse from the source battery. Next, the induction coil stores the power in a magnetic field and drives the magnet rotor.

The magnetic field collapses and a "Negative Current" pulse passes into the ferrite core and generates a magnetic field in the core through induction. This magnetic core field is now bi-polar.

The magnet field passes through the core to the "Piggyback Coil" as a wave. The "Piggyback Coil" needs to be positioned on the ferrite core rod where the magnetic wave peak forms.

This magnet wave first generates a "Positive Current" in the "Piggyback Secondary" then when the magnetic field in the ferrite core collapses, another "Negative Current" is generated. These two opposing currents couple to generate an "Alternating Current" from the "Piggyback Output Coil" and this current is directed to a (Full Wave Bridge Rectifier) FWBR where it's rectified to D.C. and stored in the capacitor.

The SSG efficiency is very high; Coupled with the collected return current from the power coil, Fusionchip's COP is OU!

[RAMSET]

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I wish other forums would have such attention to TOS agreements from membership .

this would make a forum grow for sure...

Bro
your comments on Tinsel are in error ...he actively seeks these anomalies
on a daily basis ..pondering or experimenting.

but it is not appropriate to discuss a member who cannot defend or interact here [TinselKoala?

perhaps the conversation should just rally around Allen's results .

they seem to have gotten lost in other issues ?

just one mans opinion

respectfully
Chet K

[Allen Burgess]

Induction kills flyback.

This is an 8 1/2 year old video by "Fusionchip" AKA "Gadgetmall": It's a low quality video. Fusionchip disconnects the power battery and runs the pulse motor from a storage capacitor while the capacitor stores an increasing charge:

He accomplishes this with a "Piggyback Coil" that's attached to the rear end of a ferrite core that passes through the power coil and extends out the back. The "Flyback" from the power coil is sublimated to output current through induction to the piggyback coil. This results in an Overunity "Looped" self runner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczzeeyfFoA

Let's compare "Fusionchip's SSG" to Gotoluc's flyback secondary:

This video's from Woppyjump who's easier to understand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tag5OlvPi54

The question is: Which approach is a more efficient use of this return energy from the inductor?

[bistander]

H field

The inductor's "B" field, or magnetic field, stores a tiny "H' field, or electric charge. This charge is measured by our inductance meters and is converted into "Negative Henries".

The question remains: Is the tiny "H" field in direct proportion to the coil's magnetic field strength? I maintain it is and can prove it.

In the magnetic field, B and H are always proportional and that proportion is defined as the permability.

The H field is the magnetic driving force and is measured in ampere turns per meter where the length refers to the magnetic circuit of the coil.

Allen continues to confuse physical variables with units. H represents the vector quantity magnetic field whereas H is the abbreviation for henries, the units of inductance.

[Allen Burgess]

Negative Inductance

The inductor's "B" field, or magnetic field, stores a tiny "H' field, or electric charge. This charge is measured by our inductance meters and is converted into "Negative Henries".

The question remains: Is the tiny "H" field in direct proportion to the coil's magnetic field strength? I maintain it is and can prove it.