Your Basic Coil

[gotoluc]

Yes Barbosi,

tell us... since you made it clear you obviously know better.

Then show us you're the real stuff

Expecting to be impressed

Luc

[barbosi]

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Thank you.

[boguslaw]

What is needed in motors is not needed in generators.

[Michelinho]

Hi Barbosi,

I read carefully and here is my take on it:


- First I did not asked why we were here so where does that come from: "I will try to explain what I expect from this open discussion,"

- And I did not ask about Lenz Law governing the speed of a motor (rpm) (If you feel like explaining which question it relates to?)

- And I did not ask you to take up on reading copyright free magazines relating to Tesla, Marconi, and others.

- And I did not asked you to mend fences as I erected none.


I just asked specific questions so we all start on the same footing (according to what you expect from these open discussions).

Take care,

Michel

PS "Please read carefully, I made an effort and spent time from my life with a hope."

[RAMSET]

making deals with the business men

here I brought you a movie to watch during intermission, to Give the
private developers of business Models perspective !
Oh it runs itself with significant gain and there are NO BATTERIES !!

a repost from OU.com

here IT. Self Powering Motor

Tinsel
You are witnessing a Con in this Vid ,Thieves trying to steal from Terry ...* Added SOME LIFE LONG FRIENDS and associates too]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlHIA2HWJXw

the very ugly side of humanity ![he was unaware at the time]

@Brad
The power input for a few seconds has been explained ,the Pony can't get it where it has to be to run
and the drive motor is being Baby'd and not abused by just smoking it up to speed on the mains from a standstill.

once running close to speed with the Pony it gets plugged in to bring it the rest of the way
then unplugged [after the wrestling match with other components]

then it does what it does forever with no input whatsoever ..[ while running a significant load ]
IT is a work in progress ....

I just wanted to clear that up

Oh and Tinsel, he doesn't need any help testing....


Chet K

[barbosi]

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Thank you.

[Mario]

@Dave (Turion)

I suggest you create a new thread since these F***ing idiots have hijacked this one with their endless bla bla and trash videos…

Mario

[barbosi]

No need, I'm out.

[Michelinho]

@Dave (Turion)

I suggest you create a new thread since these F***ing idiots have hijacked this one with their endless bla bla and trash videos…

Mario

You wont moderate a thread this way, you will only inflame those you disrespect. Use the ignore function and that will clean the thread for you.

Have a nice day!

Michelinho

[GlenWV]

...now about this coil thingie....

.....we'll start with a 'Beggism':
"The main things are the plain things, and the plain things are the main things."

Having printed Erfinder's early posts from OU.com and the patents referred to there, I started reading what the man said.

What did the man say in those first few posts? What was he trying to get people to see? What does he harp on and hammer in?

Reminded me of the Gabriel Kron stuff that Bedini has posted.
Reminded me of Dave's 3BGS motor running on potential difference. (I don't have the schematic here, so I'm going from memory.)

This is just getting started, I'm sure there's more in there. Had to stop and ponder a bit on how that material could be applied to the coils on the former window motor when it gets home from the machine shop.

Twas supper time, too.

glen

[erfinder]

.....we'll start with a 'Beggism':
"The main things are the plain things, and the plain things are the main things."

Having printed Erfinder's early posts from OU.com and the patents referred to there, I started reading what the man said.

What did the man say in those first few posts? What was he trying to get people to see? What does he harp on and hammer in?

Reminded me of the Gabriel Kron stuff that Bedini has posted.
Reminded me of Dave's 3BGS motor running on potential difference. (I don't have the schematic here, so I'm going from memory.)

This is just getting started, I'm sure there's more in there. Had to stop and ponder a bit on how that material could be applied to the coils on the former window motor when it gets home from the machine shop.

Twas supper time, too.

glen

Stop!

I can speak for myself.

I don't need you nor anyone to interpret my posts. When a person knows what they want, and understands what I'm offering, they can ask me direct!

Interpretations of my posts will get you no where.

The OU posts are old! If you are really interested in what I have to say, if you are really interested in comprehending where I am now, and what this whole rant is about, then stay in the now, that's where I am. If you want to see what I see, then do what is necessary to see what I claim to see, otherwise, drop this subject and give your attention to one who has something that can be easily replicated.

It's clear I am wasting my time and that of the community, so I removed myself from the discussion. Do not waste your time trying to interpret my posts here and elsewhere, it would be a complete waste of your time, nothing and I do mean nothing will come of that effort. I was here ready to participate in a serious discussion which never happened. I am no longer interested in a discussion. Those who want more will have to pay, it seems that folks only take things serious when they want it enough to pay for it.


Regards

[pault]

The Tesla patent and the JLN tests (DLE 18-20) speak to me thusly: it is not just "how much", but "when".

To me, this

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US524426.pdf

says that the electrical field in the 4 coils travel much faster than the (induced) magnetic fields in the cores. By tuning the length of the cores, it is possible to make all of the N's arrive at the same time at the 4 poles of the rotor.

AUL is just a subset of this effect.

Lenz' Law is just a subset of this effect.

pt

[voltan]

hi all. has anyone seen or tried building a generator with 3 elements. we automatically think of motors and generators as having 2 elements. a rotor and a stator, so it is written. but could there be some merit in a 3 element design, think something like a torque converter, or a planetary gear set, but with a mechanically driven central rotor with magnets, around that spins a freewheeling multi core/winding with slip rings for output, then outside that is a stator ring of magnets, as an example of 1 possible layout. maybe if some coil currents are switched on and off at times when there is a motor action on the freewheeling element, by the fixed stator, such that it is driven to turn/ or at least pushed, in the opposite direction to the driven rotor, efficiency gains might be found somehow , as an example of 1 possible strategy to try.
all conjecture and harder to engineer than 2 elements, but maybe something to consider.
cheers.

[Matthew Jones]

hi all. has anyone seen or tried building a generator with 3 elements. we automatically think of motors and generators as having 2 elements. a rotor and a stator, so it is written. but could there be some merit in a 3 element design, think something like a torque converter, or a planetary gear set, but with a mechanically driven central rotor with magnets, around that spins a freewheeling multi core/winding with slip rings for output, then outside that is a stator ring of magnets, as an example of 1 possible layout. maybe if some coil currents are switched on and off at times when there is a motor action on the freewheeling element, by the fixed stator, such that it is driven to turn/ or at least pushed, in the opposite direction to the driven rotor, efficiency gains might be found somehow , as an example of 1 possible strategy to try.
all conjecture and harder to engineer than 2 elements, but maybe something to consider.
cheers.

Could draw an example of what you thought it would look like? Including its actions?

Matt

[voltan]

sure matt. i think the concentric approach would have an imbalance,some assymetry regarding forces on the freewheeling element,based on different radiuses, and the linear style would be 50/50 if the setups at both ends are identical, the expectation then being that the free element would rotate at around half the driven input speed.
take the scheme on the left. if the driven central element is going clockwise, then the lenz effect causes a mechanical push on the free element in a clockwise direction.but it would appear that the lenz effect reaction from the outer stator is mechanically pushing the free element in the counter clockwise direction, so i'm wondering if it's possible to manipulate the lenz effect, an electrical effect, or otherwise make gains, when you split the mechanical effect and make it cancel or greatly reduce itself.
it's probably nuthin new or special and may well lead nowhere.
I just thought it might be worth some people out there mentally exploring the idea. conceptualize as many magnets and coiled cores and slip rings as you like, or think about different layouts.
cheers.