Your Basic Coil

[Allen Burgess]

Core saturation.

@Erfinder,

The important test is what effect increasing core saturation has on the output coil position for AUL. A primary winding can do the job of shifting the output coil position if there's a correlation. Luc's on the test bench with the apparatus so stay off his back!

[Allen Burgess]

Air coil core.

@Erfinder,

Air core coils are on the scale of core permeability along with all the other elements. The essential criteria of CMF coil inductance and rotor magnet gauss apply to the air core along with all the other cores.

The ideal core would be a very high permeability ferro-ceramic with low remanence, not an air core. Two wraps, one to control saturation and the other output can add a dynamic control mechanism to the AUL coil. Two diodes, one tunnel for the saturation wrap and a zener for the output feed can automatically regulate an ideal coil core distance from the rotor magnet to sustain acceleration.

The reverse lenz effect stalls out as the accelerating rotor increases the saturation of the core, this includes air, because the increased core saturation retards the wave refection, and throws the timing off. The "Symbionese Diodes" reduce core saturation as the rotor accelerates to keep the acceleration timing on dwell.

Luc is uniquely set up to do the basic special testing for this advanced coil concept, so just keep your shirt on Mr. Erfinder and stay tuned for some exciting advances!

[Matthew Jones]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr3x0xTqM_k

The coil used in the demo has 5.3 Ohms dc resistance and between 26 to 27mH at any point on the 1/2" round rod core.

Luc

Thanks, that was nicely done. I have done the same experiment but never watched it on the scope.
I think a motor would be a neat thing to try. Like in Tesla'a patent.

Cheers
Matt

[gotoluc]

Thanks, that was nicely done. I have done the same experiment but never watched it on the scope.
I think a motor would be a neat thing to try. Like in Tesla'a patent.

Cheers
Matt

Glad you liked it Matt

Tesla's motor is now on the building list.

Here are the results of the specially wound coil I showed in the video but did not demonstrate.

Using a wire resistance chart I was able to calculate the coil to be 0.00135 Ohm.
It has 16uH Inductance (on core)

With an amazingly low magnet rotor frequency of 45Hz and coil position at the furthest position on the rod core, 2.3 in. or 58mm away from magnet rotor, when shorting the coil with its own 10AWG 12 inch long wire leads = 0.002 Ohm load resistor, the magnet rotor goes to 46Hz and 37mV RMS is maintained across the coil = .685 Watt
Open coil voltage at 45Hz is 106mV

Regards

Luc

[Allen Burgess]

Core saturation.

Thanks, that was nicely done. I have done the same experiment but never watched it on the scope.
I think a motor would be a neat thing to try. Like in Tesla'a patent.

Cheers
Matt

@Matthew Jones,

Maybe you could try adding a magnet to the back of the core rod to see how the higher saturation effects the coil location.

[Allen Burgess]

Gotoluc.

I have no idea what you want. Which hard work do you reference?

So folks like myself who don't prioritize "proper measurement" aren't working....curious..



The funny thing is you honestly think that the scope is going to show you something.....




yes.....



Yes I have....twice...

Quote from you on OU

"This effect is far from being new as I found out from user Erfinder that The Great Nikola Tesla had developed this in 1894 and was granted a patent (see attached)."

End OU qoute.

Now the second video is a practical application the concept, far removed from what you find in the patent, far from my demo, JLN's demo, and yours. Now if you are aware of whats going on there....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ovlURyj8T4



You aren't paying attention.....


Regards

@Erfinder,

I agree with you, Luc's a condescending snob who acts like a "Stuck in a Rut" Nazi.

[gotoluc]

@Erfinder,

I agree with you, Luc's a condescending snob who acts like a "Stuck in a Rut" Nazi.

LOL sychro, that's the best one I've heard in a while

BTW, I tried a magnet on or around the core but nothing special to report.

Regards

Luc

[barbosi]

Dear Luc,

Could you please consider to take your experiments to a separate thread.
I'm sure you and many followers would relish your experimental work.

Turion opened this thread with a candid need to explore for more and I'm sure he realizes now that acceleration under the load was just a trampoline. Many researches are patiently looking forward for unfolding principles and clutter with measurements concerning Faraday vs. Lenz laws are not helping.

Rest assured that if I find interesting your inquiries, I'll be the first to ask questions and defend the neatness of your thread.

Regards.

[Matthew Jones]

@Matthew Jones,

Maybe you could try adding a magnet to the back of the core rod to see how the higher saturation effects the coil location.

You should tune it down a bit. Your turning into an a$$hole real quick. People can do their own experiments or ask others to do them but to trying to insult somebody into working for them is just ignorant. Since you haven't contributed anything why don't you pipe down and gather what you can from whats offered. That would be the good thing to do.

A magnet on the back of the rod will most likely just change the position of the coil as it will prevent saturation any deeper into the rod. Its kinda plain to see if you understand what your working with. To much magnetism will either prevent the effect or put the effect out of scope. Its not hard thing to understand.

Matt

[gotoluc]

Dear Luc,

Could you please consider to take your experiments to a separate thread.
I'm sure you and many followers would relish your experimental work.

Turion opened this thread with a candid need to explore for more and I'm sure he realizes now that acceleration under the load was just a trampoline. Many researches are patiently looking forward for unfolding principles and clutter with measurements concerning Faraday vs. Lenz laws are not helping.

Rest assured that if I find interesting your inquiries, I'll be the first to ask questions and defend the neatness of your thread.

Regards.

Sure, if that's what Turion wants

Let's see what he has to say.

You seem to have many opinions about me, my work and what is relevant... I wonder why

Thanks for your opinion anyways

Luc

PS still looking forward to your evidence of me applying or paying for any patents.

[Dog-One]

That was a comment made by Romerouk....and even though I don't know him, of course I have heard of him, I am in agreement with what he said, hence my immediate reply to his post.

I like your idea....its practical! How would you go about realizing it?

Regards

That is not a particularly easy question to properly answer. How about I think on this for a few days and acquire some consultation. I think there is a record that needs to be broken.

[Allen Burgess]

You should tune it down a bit. Your turning into an a$$hole real quick. People can do their own experiments or ask others to do them but to trying to insult somebody into working for them is just ignorant. Since you haven't contributed anything why don't you pipe down and gather what you can from whats offered. That would be the good thing to do.

A magnet on the back of the rod will most likely just change the position of the coil as it will prevent saturation any deeper into the rod. Its kinda plain to see if you understand what your working with. To much magnetism will either prevent the effect or put the effect out of scope. Its not hard thing to understand.

Matt

@Matthew Jones,

Look; What effect do you think accelerating the rotor magnet has on the level of core saturation? If adding a strong enough magnet to the back of the core would cause us to have to reposition the coil, wouldn't additional rotor acceleration move the "Sweet Spot" and throw the timing off?

Winding a high perm ferrite rod core with a D.C. magnetic coil connected to a potentiometer, and raising the core saturation half way would allow the operator to achieve AUL at CMF, then bleed saturation away from the core to balance the additional saturation from the accelerating rotor thereby extending the acceleration period by maintaining the advanced "Lenz Reversed" timing; Plus, Luc's not trying to get it to work!

[Turion]

Thoughts

We have a bunch of folks here sharing information that benefits ALL of us. So far we have three or four people sharing what they have ACTUALLY done, and while they all do NOT agree, the presentation of information, FACTS if you will, cannot possibly be of harm. It is the folks who ain't done POOP (again with the poop, sorry erfinder) who throw up all the roadblocks.

What will KILL this exchange of information is the same thing that always kills these kinds of threads. Either someone's ego gets bruised because someone was too sarcastic or too insulting, or someone comes into the thread to purposely disrupt things and try to short circuit things by causing conflict or leading everyone down the wrong path purposely.

Here's my philosophy on this kind of research. You can tell me I am stupid, fat, ugly, bald and lazy, and that my mother wears army boots. I don't CARE. I HAVE no ego when it comes to this research because it is just too damn important to let ANYTHING stand in the way. We SHOULD be able to disagree. We SHOULD be able to get pissed off and slam the lid of our laptop and walk away. But we should also have the courage to come back to the fight and keep contributing to the forward momentum that has been made so far. If you choose to take your ball and go home because someone here is an assh#@&, it isn't just the person who offended you that suffers, (you MIGHT even make them happy) it is the whole damn planet. Think about that for just a minute, PLEASE!!!!! I haven't posted in a while because I have NOTHING on my bench that is working right now to share, but I will SOON. So until then I am listening and learning.

There are some sharp people contributing here, and while they do NOT agree, and may be approaching this all from DIFFERENT directions, I believe we have a common purpose. DO we not? I mean if we're not here to make things better, why ARE we here? This planet is in a hell of a mess right now, and the solution to free energy MIGHT be within the grasp of the contributors on THIS forum...on THIS thread.

Louis L'Amour used to write in the western novels he wrote that nothing could stop a man who knew he was in the right and kept on coming. So don't let egos get in the way. Don't listen to naysayers and detractors. Ignore the people who aren't sharing ANY experiments they have done themselves and just want to talk. IGNORE the people who do nothing but post YouTube videos. Let's keep working, and let's not quit or lose focus. Let's ride pardners!

Dave

[Dog-One]

We have a bunch of folks here sharing information that benefits ALL of us. So far we have three or four people sharing what they have ACTUALLY done, ...

... Let's keep working, and let's not quit or lose focus. Let's ride pardners!

Here, here Dave!


Make it four or five:

Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY


The work I am focusing on is the raw air-core coil as implemented by Dally, Ruslan, Akula and some others.

There are reasons why some of the contributors here approach this subject using mechanical methods and there are reasons why I do not, primarily simplicity. That's not to say we aren't all on the same farm. There is plenty to learn about helical wraps of wire regardless of how there are manipulated.

If you haven't followed that particular thread over at OU, I won't suggest that you start because it is painful at the very least. The basic premise some theorize can happen is that you can mix current from one source with voltage from another and get real power out in watts. Ten years ago I would have said this is complete horse**** nonsense and there are many still around that continue to think this way. Lots of talk about charge carriers, electron spin, hell you name it, someone has tried to spew it.

Going back to basic coil, I have found numerous things you can do that I certainly was never told to be possible, so I didn't even think to try. Then comes along these Russian demonstrations of devices self-looped powering loads with no obvious source of input. What to do? Try the damn thing and find out, it's the only way to know. Well I did and sank like a rock after several attempts because I had no clue what I was doing. This time is going to be different. I'm starting with the basics and slowly methodically moving forward, testing and probing at every possible angle to find something else I didn't know I could do. Because in the end I will either figure it out or die trying. No gimics, no hype, just scenarios and observations. I've witnessed enough already to know there is a lot more going on with a simple piece of wire than meets the eye. Anymore I have a hard time referring to any form of conductor as a passive component. It's almost as though it has inherent intelligence and it will trick you left and right if you let it.

[Allen Burgess]

Core magnets.

@Gotoluc,

Quote from Luc:

"BTW, I tried a magnet on or around the core but nothing special to report"

I know you have plenty of magnets. Keep stacking them on untill it helps to reposition the coil. Trust me; This may turn out to be important. Try switching the polarity. Simply passing a single magnet "Around the core" ain't gonna cut it!

Mario Savio of the Berkley free speech movement stated: "Use of vulgarity is permissible when it draws attention to a more important issue".