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  • BroMikey
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    Nice rig Pedroxime, does it work? Maybe this helps.





    Last edited by BroMikey; 09-01-2018, 04:00 AM.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    In my piggy bank there is such a project. Currently it is calculated.
    It is executed from a single-phase generator and motor. The flywheel is specially designed and manufactured for this design.


    In the analysis of rotation, 10 kg flywheel with a different external diameter.
    An approximate (not specifically accurate) operating point has been determined and how much energy can be removed.
    Oh, so Campbell's combination is completely identical. Its flywheel was 0.8 meters in diameter and 10 kg.
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    Last edited by Rakarskiy; 08-31-2018, 11:41 AM.

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  • pedroxime
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    привет Rakarskiy Благодарю вас, thank you BroMikey for your kind words. Here is, in my opinion, the cheapest and easiest autonomous generator. It should be teached first to all free energy researchers.
    Its made of an AC motor with its controler , unbalanced flywheel, car alternator, battery and inverter.
    I will upload a video working when I have the time.
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  • BroMikey
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    I am learning a great deal from you, super high speeds for storage
    yes, I saw a video of a lab trying to use magnetic bearing so it's
    flywheel could go 10,000 rpm only to replace a battery bank, big
    big bucks. Like the wind turbine farms, way out of my price range
    which is all intended to be, if you ask me.


    Rakarskiy;312718]As a storehouse of energy, the flywheel requires an evaluation of high rotational speeds. In this case, the charging and unloading algorithm requires serious equipment. Compared to chemical batteries, the flywheel will be more expensive.





    Very interesting that a special generator circuit be required. So timing
    becomes the issue?


    For the operation of the installation in question, where the flywheel acts as an amplifier, it must be introduced into a state of kinetic resonance in oscillations. To create oscillations, we use the alternating input negative moment of the generator (only single-phase or pulsed, as in Bedini, etc.)
    But for this we need to observe a number of conditions, in the kinetic and electrical circuits.
    The fact that the system has fluctuations is indicated by the presence of jolts that are observed in the belt transmission between the motor and the flywheel, which by the way said Campbell.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    As a storehouse of energy, the flywheel requires an evaluation of high rotational speeds. In this case, the charging and unloading algorithm requires serious equipment. Compared to chemical batteries, the flywheel will be more expensive.
    For the operation of the installation in question, where the flywheel acts as an amplifier, it must be introduced into a state of kinetic resonance in oscillations. To create oscillations, we use the alternating input negative moment of the generator (only single-phase or pulsed, as in Bedini, etc.)
    But for this we need to observe a number of conditions, in the kinetic and electrical circuits.
    The fact that the system has fluctuations is indicated by the presence of jolts that are observed in the belt transmission between the motor and the flywheel, which by the way said Campbell.
    Last edited by Rakarskiy; 08-31-2018, 04:30 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Yes calling a machine shop and ordering a wheel is easy, what pedroxime
    said was that he thinks if the wheel is to smooth there will be no twisting
    and only good for energy storage.

    What Pedroxime is saying is to get energy multiplication (not storage)
    there MUST be a small amount of OUT OF BALANCE and therefore
    some vibration BUT NOT TO MUCH.

    JUST ENOUGH.

    That is what Pedroxime said

    Please explain. Rakarskiy

    Best regards to the Russian Man the USA loves Russia, also to Pedroxime
    for his advanced understanding due to experimentation.

    Best regards to you both. I am learning something.


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  • Rakarskiy
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    Originally posted by pedroxime View Post
    Hello Rakarskiy, for sure you have good calculations, much better than me. But I spent many time and money with the model. In my experience it didnt matter the speed, when you load the generator the whole system will go down, if you have a well balanced flywheel. Only extranger things happen when you have unbalanced flywheels.
    There is nothing easier, name the parameters of your flywheel: its type (shape); total weight (kg), outer and inner diameters (mm); The thickness (mm) for you, I calculate its optimum rotation speed, and you will compare with what you achieved during acceleration.
    PS: Have you ever found out how a stamping press works with a flywheel?

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  • pedroxime
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    Hello Rakarskiy, for sure you have good calculations, much better than me. But I spent many time and money with the model. In my experience it didnt matter the speed, when you load the generator the whole system will go down, if you have a well balanced flywheel. Only extranger things happen when you have unbalanced flywheels.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    Originally posted by pedroxime View Post
    Hi, I have some experience in the field. I. Used a 2kw motor attached to a 20kg flywheel and 7 kw generator. If the flywheel is well balanced it only works like an energy storage device, like a capacitor, and the system go down when you put some charge to the generator.
    The trick is to have the flyingwheel disbalanced. It depends of the speed, if it will work high speed the disbalance must be little.
    20 kg, the flywheel does not say anything, and also the definition of "good speed". All dollars have calculated parameters. The flywheel has only one speed with which it is interesting.

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  • pedroxime
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    Hi, I have some experience in the field. I. Used a 2kw motor attached to a 20kg flywheel and 7 kw generator. If the flywheel is well balanced it only works like an energy storage device, like a capacitor, and the system go down when you put some charge to the generator.
    The trick is to have the flyingwheel disbalanced. It depends of the speed, if it will work high speed the disbalance must be little.

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  • BroMikey
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    That wheel is spinning out of control, scary. He needs to put some
    weights on it then weld it. Or cut some off with a lathe. My idea is
    that these big wheels should be able to run 3000 plus rpm.

    I have made a note of your calculation. .7

    Best regards

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  • Rakarskiy
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    Before the development of my system of calculations, the mechanism was different!
    It was necessary to find such a speed of rotation of the flywheel, in which the drive motor has the lowest power consumption. This is an expensive and complex process. Since ordinary people do not have at their disposal so many pulleys and other equipment, and simple patience in most cases the result has not been achieved.
    This guy did not work in the system, and the reason is that he did not reach the required flywheel speed of 65 kg, a diameter of about 0.5 meters. (it has approximately 1440 * 0.7 = 1008 rpm), while the drive motor does not have the required power.
    [VIDEO]watch?v=9ThwiertnTU&t=9s[/VIDEO]
    my approximate calculations:
    The operating speed of the flywheel should be 1580 rpm.
    The input motor must be at least 2 kW
    Its single-phase generator with a power of 7 kW (1500 rpm) will work and in external consumption it will be possible to remove no more than 4.5 kW.
    True, he will need serious balancing of the Flywheel.
    Last edited by Rakarskiy; 08-30-2018, 05:06 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Twisting is the point of calculation, very interesting, now I have a new
    way to look at the subject matter. I need to know how much % the
    input motor is running. Is the motor 100% capacity or only running 50%??

    You probably adjust the motor voltage around to find the best spot.

    It seems like the faster the flywheel runs (more twisting) the better.

    I like the video material, these men are serious builders.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    Good time, BroMikey!
    Without a serious knowledge of calculation methods, such a device can not be built. The principle of calculation is based on the properties of the flywheel. The calculation begins with him. Only for the optimum flywheel speed is the engine and generator selected. It is this algorithm that is built into my calculation system. The user must enter the parameters of the flywheel: weight, outer diameter, inner diameter (if necessary).
    Then change the number of revolutions, the flywheel speed, the calculation will reach the indices of the corresponding indexes.
    We will use the state of the flywheel in its untwisted state, when it is no longer a load. For this, I was shown the flywheel index - Flywheel Reference index [Rf] and the mechanism of its calculation. This index indicates the state of the flywheel: is it a load (negative value), a "reference point" of the transition (value zero), and a multiplication of energy by the flywheel (positive value). In order to determine the optimum load "twist" on the flywheel shaft, another index was derived, the - Index of Flywheel Resistance, in a joke I gave him a name [Ku]. At the intersection, two graphs of these indices, we find the optimum flywheel operating point.
    [VIDEO]watch?v=MloDNmeRJ_k&t=70s[/VIDEO]

    Hidden mass - The relativistic mass of the body's rotation around its axis is the source of "extra" energy.

    [VIDEO]watch?v=SZnVda3i5uM[/VIDEO]
    [VIDEO]watch?v=CNr4E1QTBCA[/VIDEO]
    Last edited by Rakarskiy; 08-29-2018, 11:38 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Hello Rakarskiy

    I like your expanation even tho I have not had time to keep up
    with all of the formula's I do know how to work them. In college I was
    taught Algebra, geometry, Trig, and Calculus. It has been along long
    time.

    Simple algebra is fine.

    For easier understanding let's talk shop. As the earth rotates it offers
    up energy that will go right into a flywheel? Is there a simple layman's
    analogy or anything like an everyday model that fits our discussion?

    I know that the books taught us many fairy tales, govt controls to keep
    people from rising above. Another chapter that shows a lot of what school teach is from a
    lopsided paradoxical frame of reference meant to wear
    people out.

    Anything simple on the menu for an explanation?

    Thank you for your efforts and kind regard

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