Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[Wistiti]

Hello to All,
This setup from Barbosa and Leal is all about extracting excess energy from either the captor loop,ground,aether, etc. The loop can read from 60 - excess 200 amps with Amp clamp. So where do we start? As I add more grounding rods I can get more power from the ground . But only a trace amount with each rod added.
Please don't ask about my geomagnetic location, because I live in very high nT value area.

So a question to our knowledgeable crowd. What inventors got energy from the earth(ground) and how? I know Tesla did but how?

wantomake

Hi i gues by parasitic capacitance...

[wantomake]

Just ground

Hi i gues by parasitic capacitance...

Thanks Wistiti,
Yes, but can we do that without an ariel? I have tried the antenna and ground grid experiments, yes there's power there too. But trying to extract from just the ground as a source of energy.

wantomake

[med.3012]

Hello to All,
This setup from Barbosa and Leal is all about extracting excess energy from either the captor loop,ground,aether, etc. The loop can read from 60 - excess 200 amps with Amp clamp. So where do we start? As I add more grounding rods I can get more power from the ground . But only a trace amount with each rod added.
Please don't ask about my geomagnetic location, because I live in very high nT value area.

So a question to our knowledgeable crowd. What inventors got energy from the earth(ground) and how? I know Tesla did but how?

wantomake

Hello to All !


i just want to give a small answer about how to extract the power from ground or earth, if we talk about Tesla he always speak about special electromagnetic waves that has an electrostatic characters... even it's a varying time waves but has a common behaviors with the known electrostatic charges ... in this case it's normal to get negative charges from the earth , to get these waves we need a special capacitive discharge even i have my own theory in this but i still don't know how Tesla did it .. another requirements is high frequency for local energy production ... the third requirement is high voltage this is clear since we have electrostatic induction we need a relatively high voltage to attract more electrons from the ground .

[wantomake]

Safety

Hello to All !


i just want to give a small answer about how to extract the power from ground or earth, if we talk about Tesla he always speak about special electromagnetic waves that has an electrostatic characters... even it's a varying time waves but has a common behaviors with the known electrostatic charges ... in this case it's normal to get negative charges from the earth , to get these waves we need a special capacitive discharge even i have my own theory in this but i still don't know how Tesla did it .. another requirements is high frequency for local energy production ... the third requirement is high voltage this is clear since we have electrostatic induction we need a relatively high voltage to attract more electrons from the ground .

Med.3012,
From the little I understand about our local utilities, I don't want to input/discharge high voltages into the ground. I fear that it may interfere with utility power and/or may bring them back to my location. Again my knowledge can and is growing but want to be careful here.

That's why I want to just extract energy from the ground. I've done some experiments with dc an ac with the ground rod grid next to my shop. Once I hammered (10" long)pvc 1/2" size into the ground, then placed a galvanised landscape (10" long) nail inside it. Just to see if those "waves" of any kind, would go from input nail to a output nail. I can't remember, but either dc or ac would bridge the gap. A 10 to 15 foot gap. This may be nothing but it was interesting to me. Of course tired many ways with iron, copper, galvanised nails,pipe, and rods just driven into the dirt with direct contact to the earth.

There's something there I know it. Just can't find it yet !!!!!

Please keep this discussion coming. You all have a universe of knowledge. Please share and let's stay focused and find this free energy Tesla was passionate about.
Mother earth (just my hippie term) has more to offer,
wantomake

[med.3012]

Med.3012,
From the little I understand about our local utilities, I don't want to input/discharge high voltages into the ground. I fear that it may interfere with utility power and/or may bring them back to my location. Again my knowledge can and is growing but want to be careful here.

That's why I want to just extract energy from the ground. I've done some experiments with dc an ac with the ground rod grid next to my shop. Once I hammered (10" long)pvc 1/2" size into the ground, then placed a galvanised landscape (10" long) nail inside it. Just to see if those "waves" of any kind, would go from input nail to a output nail. I can't remember, but either dc or ac would bridge the gap. A 10 to 15 foot gap. This may be nothing but it was interesting to me. Of course tired many ways with iron, copper, galvanised nails,pipe, and rods just driven into the dirt with direct contact to the earth.

There's something there I know it. Just can't find it yet !!!!!

Please keep this discussion coming. You all have a universe of knowledge. Please share and let's stay focused and find this free energy Tesla was passionate about.
Mother earth (just my hippie term) has more to offer,
wantomake

safety is very important but i don't think they can locate you if you use high frequency ... in my opinion if we use the correct Tesla waves they can reflect and earthing isn't a must here, for example the following Tesla experiment about lighting the spark gap is located in the primary side, you have the large induction coil connected in serial with another transformer , P1 can be the ground or any similar object but the ground is good for better performance :





this mechanism is behind Tesla wireless power transmitter, in this case we have a kind of transmitter/receiver the fascinating thing is the comment of Tesla !!







there's other quote i can give if you like where Tesla relate this with free energy generation, it's like you can convert voltage directly to electric current here there's no transformation, now based on Don smith discovery about electrons spinning the primary coil can help too much if we could emulate the behavior of permanent magnet into resonating coil ...

[clarence]

[QUOTE=wantomake;

Wish I had more to update,
wantomake[/QUOTE]Wantomake

I did finish my dual spool shuttle to be able to wind the Bifilar secondary
on my Primary only toroid core.
the two small spools of # 20 mag wire will arrive March 3rd. Should have ready for testing late on the 4th. Will see how all performs using the revision
I mentioned in E-mail.

Respectfully,

Clarence

[clarence]

Toroid bifilar

wantomake[/QUOTE]

Wantomake,

Mag wire came in early.
Used shuttle - wound 175 turns Bifilar for a secondary.
BLUE colored lead wire comes Monday (tomorrow) .
Finish and testing Tuesday (maybe).
Posting Wednesday (maybe-maybe not?)

Regards

Clarence

[wantomake]

Ground grid

clarence,
Sounds interesting. Look forward to your results. Just wondering if you still plan to use ground grid since our last email. I'm still goofing around with it here and there.

Hope good results,
wantomake

[clarence]

Toroid bifilar

clarence,
Sounds interesting. Look forward to your results. Just wondering if you still plan to use ground grid since our last email. I'm still goofing around with it here and there.

Hope good results,
wantomake

Wantomake,

YES!. I do still plan to use the ground grid as shown in e-mail.
I also plan to use it being powered by my own utility company and
harvesting THEIR ground power instead of my PVbatt/inverter power.

I want to know what does what.

I also will be investigating another ground power source shortly.
However it is one that has been unsuccessfully replicated for usable
results by everyone that has tried. Repeatedly BLUDGEONED to death
because they fail to read the instructions.
For sure I won't say anything more about that for MONTHS.
Way too much involved for the worlds's zippity-do-da quicky approach.

Regards,

Clarence

[wantomake]

Ground power

Wantomake,

YES!. I do still plan to use the ground grid as shown in e-mail.
I also plan to use it being powered by my own utility company and
harvesting THEIR ground power instead of my PVbatt/inverter power.

I want to know what does what.

I also will be investigating another ground power source shortly.
However it is one that has been unsuccessfully replicated for usable
results by everyone that has tried. Repeatedly BLUDGEONED to death
because they fail to read the instructions.
For sure I won't say anything more about that for MONTHS.
Way too much involved for the worlds's zippity-do-da quicky approach.

Regards,

Clarence

That's the exact reason I'm here and spending resources on this idea. Even though I don't know how, the ground has more to offer than we know.

Not sure about of HV or high frequencies being the way to harvest mother earths free energy. But I'm not beyond it. If anything I just want to see this happen and get on with building a practical method to use.

I pray you are ok with this storm that's blowing through the southeast. We get it about 1:00 pm or so today.

Thanks Clarence,
wantomake

[digits10]

Progress

Hey, guys,
I got my toroids & got the heavy gauge wire wrapped around them (very neatly using the cut 2x4 method). I haven't done anything with the ground rods yet, but it sounds like that might not be the focus anyway?
You guys are way past me in terms of understanding (and probably time too)! Anything I can do to help you guys move forward?

[wantomake]

Welcome

Hey, guys,
I got my toroids & got the heavy gauge wire wrapped around them (very neatly using the cut 2x4 method). I haven't done anything with the ground rods yet, but it sounds like that might not be the focus anyway?
You guys are way past me in terms of understanding (and probably time too)! Anything I can do to help you guys move forward?

Digits10,
All help is welcomed here. I follow what Clarence is putting together. He's working on the toriod secondary winding as far as I've read. I don't know if this still is necessary anymore or not, but check your area geomagnetic nT values. Just Google it and take note of the area you live in. With the old setup I was able to get some, not much, return from the ground rods I have in place so far. I only have a few like 4 input rods and 1 return rod. I could light a low watt cfl and power the smart battery charger over night and only lost a few tenths of a volt from my solar battery bank. Of course I removed the B & L setup from the loop and found that it will do the same with just the inverter connected to the rods.

Just word of caution, be careful with this setup. Make sure it's off before adding or touching any ground rods. I know cause this is same rods used to grid ground homes. Inverter has same danger as mains power lines. Has made me dance a few times myself. Lol.

Of course we are trying a different setup per Clarence and his instructions.

wantomake

[digits10]

Location

Thanks for the reply. I did check my nT and interestingly, I'm in the hottest rating from the 1970's USGS uranium survey, but the 2003(?) European satellite survey, I'm in the lowest nT rating. They're nearly exactly opposite.

[clarence]

Digits10,
All help is welcomed here. I follow what Clarence is putting together. He's working on the toriod secondary winding as far as I've read. I don't know if this still is necessary anymore or not, but check your area geomagnetic nT values. Just Google it and take note of the area you live in. With the old setup I was able to get some, not much, return from the ground rods I have in place so far. I only have a few like 4 input rods and 1 return rod. I could light a low watt cfl and power the smart battery charger over night and only lost a few tenths of a volt from my solar battery bank. Of course I removed the B & L setup from the loop and found that it will do the same with just the inverter connected to the rods.

Just word of caution, be careful with this setup. Make sure it's off before adding or touching any ground rods. I know cause this is same rods used to grid ground homes. Inverter has same danger as mains power lines. Has made me dance a few times myself. Lol.

Of course we are trying a different setup per Clarence and his instructions.

wantomake

Wantomake,

My purchases came in so I finished the toroid secondary Bifilar revision
this afternoon. Tomorrow will be testing day. Will use the MAINS method
first as that's what the revision is all about.
So I want everyone to give me some time space while I go over the results.
They may be good, half good, no good - time will tell. Thanks.

Thanks wantomake,

Clarence

[wantomake]

Clarence,
I have my finger on the order button for the magnet wire. But will wait to see your results. Then maybe I can help test and understand with a toroid setup as you have. Cause one thing important to get good test with results is everyone be on same replication blue print.

With respect and patience,
wantomake