Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[clarence]

Use your eyes

Ok, I will check it.
Just a comment, I changed the cable for a bigger one (#6) just to see what could happen, and just with one turn the melting appeared again. Attached is thepic.

I will review againg the connections

For the earthing I decided to use the structure of the house, because I dont have the right rods at this moment. But when I measured the ampers comming from the earth, I measured 4 ampers. But it didnt work anyway.
I will check
Best regards

Franklin,

Did you even look at the picture I sent????

Evidently NOT!!!!

THERE IS NO NEED TO ADD ANY TURNS ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOOK REAL HARD and you will see the there is only a PRIMARY on the toroid.

There is NO NEED for anything else!!!!! Get A Grip!!!

Clarence

[FRANKLIN]

Ok

Hey Frank

You are having the same thing as others who hooked it up wrong
but if you go back in the THREAD and read up you see what the right
way is. Even if you used it for a spot welder it shouldn't melt anything
unless you are shorting out the large windings.

Ok, I will check it.
Just a comment, I changed the cable for a bigger one (#6) just to see what could happen, and just with one turn the melting appeared again. Attached is thepic.

I will review againg the connections

For the earthing I decided to use the structure of the house, because I dont have the right rods at this moment. But when I measured the ampers comming from the earth, I measured 4 ampers. But it didnt work anyway.
I will check
Best regards

[BroMikey]

Hello, thanks for your answer.

I have a 800 watts toroidal transformer, but when I added the secundary turns, they started to be melt, due to the high temperature, I think due to the ampers.

I connected the secundary to the earth system but the problem continued
could you please tell me what I could do



thanks

Hey Frank

You are having the same thing as others who hooked it up wrong
but if you go back in the THREAD and read up you see what the right
way is. Even if you used it for a spot welder it shouldn't melt anything
unless you are shorting out the large windings.

[clarence]

This way

hello, good coments, thanks.
but do you know How i could avoid this problem.
I did the connections like clarence said.

Do it just like THIS!

Then Get on with life.

NO MORE PM'S !!!!

Clarence

[FRANKLIN]

The y are probably trying to avoid ground loop because ground is actively used in their country to send AC power. It is called SWER system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return

I believe in essence their (B&L) system is the spin-off from Tesla transformer method. If you find Tesla patent he described some strange setup of two transformers (one step up and one step down) connected via ground and second wire. Although it is strange it was patented because te only difference is in usage flat pancake coils - the rest is like in common SWER system.

So where is the secret ? Barbosa and Leal explained it - the magnetic field of Earth is bonded to the loop between transformers generating excess power (much more then input). Looks like the same way worked Hubbard generator ,Hendershot and few others. It is one of two the most important discoveries in science , I believe.

hello, good coments, thanks.
but do you know How i could avoid this problem.
I did the connections like clarence said.

[boguslaw]

The y are probably trying to avoid ground loop because ground is actively used in their country to send AC power. It is called SWER system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return

I believe in essence their (B&L) system is the spin-off from Tesla transformer method. If you find Tesla patent he described some strange setup of two transformers (one step up and one step down) connected via ground and second wire. Although it is strange it was patented because te only difference is in usage flat pancake coils - the rest is like in common SWER system.

So where is the secret ? Barbosa and Leal explained it - the magnetic field of Earth is bonded to the loop between transformers generating excess power (much more then input). Looks like the same way worked Hubbard generator ,Hendershot and few others. It is one of two the most important discoveries in science , I believe.

[FRANKLIN]

Like WANTOMAKE has pointed out, I have no build, but what I do have
is a working understanding of this setup as I am the one who drew up
the diagram. The rods are not pure copper and yes pipes will work but
are to pricey. Use IRON RODS COATED WITHE COPPER this has been
given and I now have repeated it. The iron rod coated in copper is
cheap.

Depending on mineral content the coating my be eaten away after 10
years or so, this has been mentioned, i am repeating this fact. Rods
need to be experimented with first, this has been stated.

Drive 2 rods in the ground at 3 foot apart then do the test at 2
foot apart to find the best collection spacing for your ground. This
is not hard and needs to be done by each individual. Start with
a few cheap-O rods and add latter using you launch money.

Hello, thanks for your answer.

I have a 800 watts toroidal transformer, but when I added the secundary turns, they started to be melt, due to the high temperature, I think due to the ampers.

I connected the secundary to the earth system but the problem continued
could you please tell me what I could do



thanks

[level]

and the charade continues...

[BroMikey]

Hello all
now I have two toroidal transformers, very big transformers, they are 800 watts each one

I understood the copper rods have to be placed in a circle in the ground
let me know if it is right

and do you think that coper pipes could be used instead of the rods, because the rods are more expensive

please let me know thanks

Like WANTOMAKE has pointed out, I have no build, but what I do have
is a working understanding of this setup as I am the one who drew up
the diagram. The rods are not pure copper and yes pipes will work but
are to pricey. Use IRON RODS COATED WITHE COPPER this has been
given and I now have repeated it. The iron rod coated in copper is
cheap.

Depending on mineral content the coating my be eaten away after 10
years or so, this has been mentioned, i am repeating this fact. Rods
need to be experimented with first, this has been stated.

Drive 2 rods in the ground at 3 foot apart then do the test at 2
foot apart to find the best collection spacing for your ground. This
is not hard and needs to be done by each individual. Start with
a few cheap-O rods and add latter using you launch money.

[FRANKLIN]

Hi

Hello all
now I have two toroidal transformers, very big transformers, they are 800 watts each one

I understood the copper rods have to be placed in a circle in the ground
let me know if it is right

and do you think that coper pipes could be used instead of the rods, because the rods are more expensive

please let me know thanks

[wantomake]

Why trust non builders??

Vrand,
Those that have NOT built this setup and installed the ground grid can't know what they are talking about. All any of us including me has is just an opinion. Nobody here has installed 20 or more grounding rods in the ground to even have an idea if this B&L setup works or not. Only Clarence has installed 60 rods in the ground to power this device.

So I'll not tell my opinion here cause I've no proof. But I know Clarence has and only he can have a true opinion on this matter.

These others have just opinions and no basic tests or experiments that carry any value on this forum. If fact one of these big mouths harnesses other threads as well.

Be wise people. Listen to true builders that actually post pictures and show proof of builds. It's a waste of time and space to argue with non builders.

Opinions are like arm pits, everyone has two and they both stink !!!!!!
wantomake
PS: I built this setup but don't have finances for the 20+ rods. And posted pictures of all my builds.

[pedroxime]

Hi Vrand
I live in a house with only solar energy thus I was forced from the begining to use inverter and no way. Perhaps there is some configuraation I dont know but... The easiestt way now is go solar , panels are cheaper than ever and some maglev windmill.
Regards

[vrand]

Hi level,
Thanks for the updated info on B&L THe battery/inverter connection is where B&L was stuck, can add me to the list!
Cheers

[level]

Hello vrand. Unfortunately I do not know of any type of free energy devices which hold a lot of promise and for which all of the replication details are known, and where one or more people have been able to independently replicate the over unity results. I think at least some devices out there do seem to hold some promise however. I do my own experimenting as well, but haven't tested with any setup I can say is definitely over unity so far. I spent a few years on Don Smith's stuff and various other types of setups since then as well, but no luck so far.

BroMikey does not know what he is talking about when he says having a lot of ground rods will make these B&L captor loop devices over unity. It will lower the overall ground rod array resistance to ground current, but I don't know of anyone who has ever demonstrated anything relating to these B&L captor loop setups and who has shown some proper measurements that indicate anything unusual happening. That is just a fair and honest assessment from what I have seen over the last couple of years or so. Unfortunately a few people here seem to think that if someone is honest about any particular setup that they must be 'suppression agents'. Of course that is silly. If someone wants any hope of ever finding real over unity, it is unlikely they can do so if they are unwilling to fairly and honestly look at and consider all the facts.

Anyway, as I have mentioned, I emailed B&L a couple of months ago and pointed out the major problem of testing the B&L 'captor loop' setups using the mains, and asked if their captor loop setups could produce over unity if powered with a battery and inverter to eliminate the mains ground loop problem. They answered "Not yet". They said they stopped working with those 'captor loop' setups back in Oct. 2013, but they are currently working on a new idea they have for a new type of over unity device. It seems pretty clear to me from what they replied to me that they no longer believe those 'captor loop' type devices are over unity. Otherwise I see no reason why they would have answered me with "not yet" in regards to whether their devices are over unity, and stopped working with the captor loop devices for several years already, and are now working on a new type of over unity device idea. If they were suppressed by their government or whatever, then they likely wouldn't have answered my emails, and wouldn't have told me they are now working on a new idea for a new type of over unity device.

[BroMikey]

Hi Bromiky,
Not even saying his is misleading. Not saying anything really, just asking for more info on his inverter/battery setup so can continue replication of this B&L device.
Cheers

Fair enough I guess that quote was from ole smooth lips, not you.

Unfortunately Clarence has been misleading people in this thread for 2 1/2 years