Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[clarence]

Still the same braindead sxxt

Hello wantomake. Sorry I do not follow your comment. I have not been making any negative statements whatsoever. I have however been stating facts. You need to re-read the comments if you think I have been saying anything negative. Just because some people may not want to hear the facts, it does not make those facts 'negative'.

Someone asked what happened to B&L and I posted a couple of comments giving some factual info on what happened to them and what they are up to now. By no stretch of the imagination is that 'negative'. I provided links that backup what I have said. I am sorry if you find those facts 'negative'.

At this point, given that Barbosa and Leal appear to have completely dropped anything to do with the 'Captor free energy' devices that they were previously marketing, it appears most likely to me that they came to the conclusion that the jig was up and trying to pass off their ground loop devices as 'Captor free energy' devices was not likely going to lead anywhere but get them thrown in jail. I won't say that I think that it is for certain that it was a scam, but given that B&L have apparently now completely dropped anything to do with their 'Captor' devices and have started a new company that is marketing a new chemical process, it certainly might be the case.

Some people might speculate that their technology was 'suppressed', but given what we know about them and their devices, it seems more likely they stopped marketing them because they really only 'worked' by using a ground loop and by 'fooling' the power meter. Whether it could fool a power meter depends on where you live in the world (the type of mains power system that is used) and what kind of power meter you have on your house or building.

Also, don't forget that 'Ariovaldo' obtained an actual device that was made by B&L and neither the person Ariovaldo obtained the B&L device from nor Ariovaldo got it to work. The excuse by B&L to the original purchaser that they didn't have enough ground rods installed seems weak. Clarence put in a whole massive pile of ground rods and tried really hard to make it work and he didn't fare any better after two years. It really is not looking good at all for the B&L Captor devices at this point, in my own opinion anyway.

If some people think that people should only post comments here that promote a belief in something regardless of what the actual facts are, then I think that is not helpful for anyone. No doubt at least some people will appreciate knowing the facts of the situation before shelling out a bunch of money and effort to try something like this. There is nothing at all wrong with being realistic as far as I am concerned anyway.

GO somewhere and find an empty closet - go inside - shut the door and stay there forever.
All you are is an annoying repetitious PARROT.

Clarence

[BroMikey]

BroMikey,

He seems to have gone from moldy bones to a study on passed Gas.
Wonder what his next study will be?

Clarence

I smell an old man's pipe as he goes off his rocker in a rocking chair
blues. Cain do this and Cain do that, same ole Level Bug out bag in
hand ole Level is ready. He is such a sweet heart just like so many
people who are a nervous wreck when it comes to electricity especially
utility mains, GOD FORBID.

Without us he would still be all alone in his coma rocking chair blues, so
it is good for level to rant a little.

Same ole BLUE MAN scare tactics. It's okay God makes all kinds.
Only a few engine men and so many brakemen. So he has got to recast
the thread in his own image after his likeness, THE BLUE MAN SYNDROME"

I remember when he first made this thread how he had what was equivalent
to a rusty iron wire stuck in the ground with a pale over his great big
hot light bulb. Then he made it into a joking mystery to mock the idea
by laying in wait to trap people really enthusiastic, so he could laugh at
them.

That says it all. Level loves to play tricks and his desire is to ruin.

That is how bitterness and hate manifest, it never hopes good tho it
will SAY it does. Actions can be weighted, they speak the very loudly.

Be ready for anything now that you have broken the glass ceiling.

level,
I'm a little confused about your post here.

You say it's not to debunk this setup and that you are a nice guy.

But 8 of your 10 post have been negative or debunking.

People here are wanting to replicate this invention of B&L. Leave it be.

Aaron if I'm out of order, then I'll delete this post.

Since when should Aaron correct anyone for speaking their mind?
That is what Aaron is all about. He's here to see to it
that we are able to speak freely.

[level]

Hello
Do you know if it is possible to use IRON instead of COPPER to do the conections to the earth?
it is because the copper is very expensive.
and the IRON bars are cheaper, but I do not know what do you think?
thanks

Hello Franklin. I am not aware of anyone who was ever able to get a B&L device to show any over unity, so unfortunately no one knows what might work and what won't work. Your guess is as good as anyone else's at this point.

In theory, copper is a better conductor than iron. You can buy copper clad iron rods, which should be a bit cheaper than pure copper rods, but again keep in mind that it appears that no one has ever been able to get a B&L device to actually produce over unity. At least no one has ever been able to demonstrate any over unity in a reasonably convincing way with this type of setup other than what Barbosa and Leal have claimed in their videos and patents.

[level]

Hello wantomake. Sorry I do not follow your comment. I have not been making any negative statements whatsoever. I have however been stating facts. You need to re-read the comments if you think I have been saying anything negative. Just because some people may not want to hear the facts, it does not make those facts 'negative'.

Someone asked what happened to B&L and I posted a couple of comments giving some factual info on what happened to them and what they are up to now. By no stretch of the imagination is that 'negative'. I provided links that backup what I have said. I am sorry if you find those facts 'negative'.

At this point, given that Barbosa and Leal appear to have completely dropped anything to do with the 'Captor free energy' devices that they were previously marketing, it appears most likely to me that they came to the conclusion that the jig was up and trying to pass off their ground loop devices as 'Captor free energy' devices was not likely going to lead anywhere but get them thrown in jail. I won't say that I think that it is for certain that it was a scam, but given that B&L have apparently now completely dropped anything to do with their 'Captor' devices and have started a new company that is marketing a new chemical process, it certainly might be the case.

Some people might speculate that their technology was 'suppressed', but given what we know about them and their devices, it seems more likely they stopped marketing them because they really only 'worked' by using a ground loop and by 'fooling' the power meter. Whether it could fool a power meter depends on where you live in the world (the type of mains power system that is used) and what kind of power meter you have on your house or building.

Also, don't forget that 'Ariovaldo' obtained an actual device that was made by B&L and neither the person Ariovaldo obtained the B&L device from nor Ariovaldo got it to work. The excuse by B&L to the original purchaser that they didn't have enough ground rods installed seems weak. Clarence put in a whole massive pile of ground rods and tried really hard to make it work and he didn't fare any better after two years. It really is not looking good at all for the B&L Captor devices at this point, in my own opinion anyway.

If some people think that people should only post comments here that promote a belief in something regardless of what the actual facts are, then I think that is not helpful for anyone. No doubt at least some people will appreciate knowing the facts of the situation before shelling out a bunch of money and effort to try something like this. There is nothing at all wrong with being realistic as far as I am concerned anyway.

[FRANKLIN]

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Hello
Do you know if it is possible to use IRON instead of COPPER to do the conections to the earth?
it is because the copper is very expensive.
and the IRON bars are cheaper, but I do not know what do you think?

thanks

[wantomake]

Why?

level,
I'm a little confused about your post here. You say it's not to debunk this setup and that you are a nice guy.

But 8 of your 10 post have been negative or debunking. The 2 positive post was helping me and thanks.

Are you here to build? Are you here to help? If you can't do either then why are you here after you started this thread so long ago?

We aren't trying to persuade or trick anyone into replicating this setup. There's no scam or deception to harm or hurt.

People here are wanting to replicate this invention of B&L. Leave it be.

When Clarence announced he had achieved a way to make this work, then you show up.
This is suspicious, are you working for FE or tptb, Oil cartels, the government?

Your post gives away the side that you stand on.

We need help not hindrance. Stand with us. You helped me, then why not everyone?

I mean no disrespect but I do want to understand your intentions.
wantomake

Aaron if I'm out of order, then I'll delete this post.

[clarence]

Bones to gas?

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BroMikey,

He seems to have gone from moldy bones to a study on passed Gas.
Wonder what his next study will be?

Clarence

[level]

Brazilian Company Develops New Process For Hydrogen Production

It looks like this is their new website:

[level]

What happens to people like B&L - they get a working unit & a patent, and then don't make it publicly available for sale?

Back in I think 2013, a Brazillian power company (CEMAR) brought complaints against B&L with the police, and B&L were arrested. B&L had three CEMAR power meters in their possession which I believe is what the charges were about. Whether there were any other charges brought against them, I don't know. I never heard if B&L were ever convicted of anything.

Here is an old news story on it:
Entrepreneurs are arrested on charges of receiving

[digits10]

That was my next question

Clarence,
I've been holding back on asking about 3-phase, since I don't even have this first one going yet I don't have any info, but am also certainly interested. What happens to people like B&L - they get a working unit & a patent, and then don't make it publicly available for sale?

[clarence]

Ding dong bone head

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BroMikey,

He really loves that old moldy bone he keeps chewing on - probably keeps it under his pillow at night.

You know, its a sad shame when a grown adult can look at a block schematic
that was personally made by B&L and not get it through their head that
their devise was initialized by a small amperage CONNECTION to the damn Utility Company that was doing the TESTING!

Somebody must have poked out his eyes and left behind a dead brain a long time ago. Hope somebody steals his old moldy bone so he starves away!

Thanks for your input BRO,

EDIT: I Don't suppose anyone has access to to the information about B&L's 3-phase unit where 2-phases were powering LOADS and the other phase was sending MUCH more power back
to the Utility Company than it was sending! That was the one thing that really freaked them out and they told B&L they didn't understand their explanation and stopped all the testing!


Clarence

[level]

Level,
Thanks that's good advice and is all my abilities and time will allow me to do. I'm thinking to place a circuit analog meter on the battery to have something to read each test. I want be able to help others to build here as we progress. Plus start recording readings as I add each rod. Don't know if makes any difference, but I live in very high geomagnetic area here. I appreciate any advice.

Hello wantomake.
Yes, you can put an anlaog current meter in one of the battery wires, but the current from the battery could potentially be quite high, such as 30 Amps or even a lot higher depending on the particular load you are powering. If the current is a lot higher than what your analog meter is designed for, you could possibly damage the analog meter, so just be aware of that. This is one reason why people often use clamp on current meters when measuring high currents. They are usually designed to be able to measure high currents without any issue. I have attached a drawing that shows how it would be done with a clamp on DC current meter. You can measure the battery current either on the battery plus or negative wires, it shouldn't matter. Some clamp on meters have a dial that you can change for either AC current or DC current. That would be ideal for this type of setup. Also check to see what the maximum current is that a particular clamp on meter can measure. The rectangle part in the diagram labelled 'Captor Toroid Loop' would be whatever B&L configuration or other circuit setup you are testing with.

[BroMikey]

By the way, I am the guy who started this thread.

Don't listen to BroMikey. He is off in his own world.

Level, you are not going to take your ball and bat and go home
are you? Listen to you "THIS IS MY THREAD" I'm the boss over
here.

As you mentioned we don't want any dead bodies thru electrocution
popping up by any utility meters, genius. Then there is your rusty
ground rod experiment proving electricity traveled from your pole to
the bulb thru the ground, oh goody, genius.

Who knows, if you stop ignoring the testing information posted, maybe
you will surprise us all ON YOUR OWN THREAD.

All of the testing you mention has been done and in the planning
since day one so endless parroting of the same, I know makes you
feel better and sound like an advanced researcher, but really, that
is not the case.

You can't keep sitting on the sidelines with your rusty rod haggling
and get the results you are demanding, go gettem boy.

I doesn't make sense to promote an idea and try to discredit the
idea at the same time. This has been your goal from the beginning.

[level]

I don't say MAINS anymore So D A Level doesn't keep throwing his left TIT over his shoulder. That is an annoying A H if ever there was one. He keeps chewing on his moldy old bone about Over Unity. He needs to get a GRIP!
There is NOTHING ABOUT THE B&L SYSTEM that can be construed as OVER UNITY.

Hello Clarence. Ok, so we are clear that you do not think your setup is over unity. Good, because I think some people were still not clear at all about what you have been claiming here in regards to that. So, what exactly is it you are trying to achieve now?

I don't say MAINS anymore So D A Level doesn't keep throwing his left TIT over his shoulder. That is an annoying A H if ever there was one. He keeps chewing on his moldy old bone about Over Unity. He needs to get a GRIP!
There is NOTHING ABOUT THE B&L SYSTEM that can be construed as
OVER UNITY.

In my next post I'm going to attach some photos of B&L themselves doing their Tests with CEMAR Utility Company agents in Brazil.

It will SHOW their system using a SMALL amount of amperage input while EXTRACTING very very MUCH MORE from the ground.

It will also show the SMALL amount of amperage in BEING PROVIDED BY
CEMAR - the Brazil Utility Company. Let that OLD BONE be chewed for awhile!

Clarence

Wow, nasty! There's no need for that Clarence. I am a friendly guy.
You say you don't say 'mains', but are you using the mains or not as your power source? You either have a wire connected to a wire on the mains or you don't. If you do have a wire connected to a wire from the mains then you are definitely using the mains. Perhaps you would care to clarify that for people here.

I have explained several times already in this thread why this can occur with this type of setup. It is called a ground loop. When using the mains with this type of setup, current returns back to the mains through the ground to the grounded neutral at the utility box. Nothing unusual with that. If your goal is to try to cheat the power meter supplied by the power company (steal power), it can be done depending on how 'smart' the power meter is that is installed at your house, unless you bypass the power meter altogether.

Newer 'smart' power meters can be harder to fool, and older ones might be easier to fool. As I mentioned however, even if you can find a way to fool the power meter, power companies still run other tests from time to time such as testing for ground faults that cause them to lose power, and they could still detect that someone is bypassing or fooling the power meter. Smart power meters can report unusual or suspicious problems which they detect back to the power company and they will come and check it out. Stealing power from the power company is probably illegal almost anywhere in this world. so people should be aware of that.

Ok, I have said enough on this for now. Someone is either willing to consider what I am saying or they are not. Clarence is either willing to be clear about exactly what he is doing, or he is not.
Experiment safely everyone!

[wantomake]

Finances

Hello wantomake. That's great that you are approaching it all with an open mind and are not making assumptions! The test I mentioned is suggested as a straight forward way to be able to monitor the performance of the setup. To see how the setup is really performing at any given point in time. So even if you don't have a whole bunch of ground rods, you could still run the test to see what your efficiency is right now with your current setup.

Let's say the efficiency is 75% now, then say if you later added a few more ground rods or made other changes to your setup you could then repeat the exact same test and see how much difference it makes to the efficiency. You will have a clear indicator if the performance improved or not, and exactly by how much the efficiency changed. Efficiency in percent equals the power out divided by the power in, times 100. If someone is getting a fair bit over 100% efficiency and they did the measurements right, then that would seem to indicate over unity. You may have hit the mother load at that point. Good luck!

Level,
Thanks that's good advice and is all my abilities and time will allow me to do. I'm thinking to place a circuit analog meter on the battery to have something to read each test. I want be able to help others to build here as we progress. Plus start recording readings as I add each rod. Don't know if makes any difference, but I live in very high geomagnetic area here. I appreciate any advice.

Clarence,
I will and those that support this build have given the go ahead on this project. So things may move faster than I can keep up with.

wantomake