Milkodini hybred

[Ted Ewert]

[Peter Lindemann]

Absolutely Great!!!

Ted,

Fantastic work. You are absolutely correct. Centrifugal force IS the secret energy source everyone has been looking for. Your MILKODINI machine can tap this very well.

Once you have the output system fully developed to harness the secondary oscillations, the trick to creating massive power gains will be about careful speed control of the wheel. You have already seen that certain speeds are capable of producing huge force multiplications. If you can figure out how to "lock" the speed of the wheel at one of these "hot spots", energy is there, like a ripe Apple, waiting to be picked.

If you are patient, and just solve one problem at a time, you will succeed where so many others have not.

Keep up the great work!!!!

Peter

[Ted Ewert]

Thanks for the encouragement and kind words Peter, I really appreciate it.
I used the monopole wheel because it draws a constant current and, well, nobody seems to know what to do with the "free mechanical" energy this thing produces. I finally found a use other than driving a fan.
The monopole wheel is not known for it's fine speed control, which will require some patience while adjustments are made. Nevertheless, significant energy is transfered to the secondary almost constantly. It doesn't seem to be a matter of "if" but rather how much energy can be drawn from the secondary per unit of time.
There is a fair amount of straight forward mechanical engineering that is required to make any machine do what we want it to. I enjoy this part of the process the most and look forward to refining and tweaking this mechanism. I already have three or four variations swimming around in my head.
I would encourage anyone who finds this concept interesting to build a simple pendulum on a lever. Once you swing the pendulum and try and steady the lever with your hand, you will instantly know what kind of power this thing is capable of.
Thanks again Peter for your explanations of this concept and how it works. I find your insights invaluable and look forward to your input whenever you're kind enough to lend it.

Cheers,

Ted

[Aaron]

great work!

Ted,

This is some great out-of-the-box thinking! Looking forward
to the progress!

[Ted Ewert]

[Jetijs]

Great work Ted,
thanks for the pictures! I always enjoy looking at such stuff

[Peter Lindemann]

Excellent Work

Ted,

Thanks for the new pics and the progress report. Building your own Constantinesco ratchet converter is awe inspiring. This shows tremendous ingenuity on your part.

Your conclusions are correct. The output system has its own "oscillatory constants" due to total mass. Getting directly to the output in one stage is necessary to prevent the introduction of "parasitic oscillations" which are the real mechanism requiring more input energy. As the mass of the output increases, the slower it wants to oscillate. This takes it out of resonance with the oscillations of the weight on the wheel. The larger the motion of the output, the more elliptical the motion of the weight on the wheel. It is the random motions of the weight through the ellipse that produces the parasitic oscillations resulting in the loss of momentum in the input. It is not a direct "loading" effect from the output. It is still an indirect effect, but the increased energy needed to keep the system going is present.

Continuous synchronization of the output and the input oscillations are required to produce force amplification.

Keep up the great work. The machine is teaching you its secrets!!!!!

Peter

[Ted Ewert]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the words of encouragement.
Trying to visualize the different subsystems in relation to the whole machine is a challanging puzzle. I can see why Veljko uses such stiff arms with his pendulums. This reduces the parasitic oscillations. Using a bike frame, which is quite stiff in the vertical plane, is also a great idea of his. Veljko is da man.
Springs are very helpful to keep the lever arm within a small range of movement. They can be lossy though, and stiff springs are best.
I can see a trip to the scrap yard in the near future to get some old car springs for my next machine.
Lots to learn here. I want to look into a simple hydrolic system to convert a small amount of motion with a lot of force to something a little more usable. I'm seeing a wide piston with a short stroke driving a narrow piston with a longer stroke. I see a diaphragm bilge pump swimming in my future.

Cheers,

Ted

[Ted Ewert]

[Jetijs]

Ted,
take a look on this topic:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1221-using-n-machine-generate-torqueless-electricity.html

There are some links about experiments with rotating objects and inertia
I think this could be helpful.

[adam ant]

hydraulic piston pumps are an idea if thats the direction you want to go.
internal gear pumps are good, as well as muti-screw pumps. the latter probably using much less torque, as they are not good under much pressure.

[Ted Ewert]

Thanks for the heads-up Jetijs. Those are some good posts.

hydraulic piston pumps are an idea if thats the direction you want to go.
internal gear pumps are good, as well as muti-screw pumps. the latter probably using much less torque, as they are not good under much pressure.

I've been looking at pumps lately and trying to familiarize myself with the different types. Hydraulics lends itself to a lot of flexibility, although the stuff is not cheap. Ebay has a lot of pumps but I don't know them well enough yet to pick a kind to use.
These types of machines will put out a lot of pressure, but very little stroke. I need to find the right motor to turn that into a high speed rotation. Most of these motors are high torque, low speed.
I can do the same thing mechanically, but the losses are higher and there isn't as much control.
I'm going to start breaking this machine down in order to make a different type of mechanism. It will be a dual rotor with a hand crank. I'll put everything I learned with this unit to good use in the next. Stay tuned!
Cheers,

Ted

[adam ant]

then i would definitely look into the multiple screw type pumps. they have the least amount of torque required, and a high output of water/fluid flow, but they do not do well under pressure. they are basically for moving and circulating water in short distances only. Sea World in San Diego has a HUGE pair of these. each screw is almost 30 feet long and perhaps 10 feet in diameter. they are used on a water ride to efficiently take the water from the resevoir at the bottom "splash pool" back up to the top of the slide. it moves way more water than any other conventional pump, but with no pressure, there is little resistance(little torque needed) other than the weight of the water.

[Peter Lindemann]

Screw Pumps....Archimedes Revisited

then i would definitely look into the multiple screw type pumps. they have the least amount of torque required, and a high output of water/fluid flow, but they do not do well under pressure. they are basically for moving and circulating water in short distances only. Sea World in San Diego has a HUGE pair of these. each screw is almost 30 feet long and perhaps 10 feet in diameter. they are used on a water ride to efficiently take the water from the resevoir at the bottom "splash pool" back up to the top of the slide. it moves way more water than any other conventional pump, but with no pressure, there is little resistance(little torque needed) other than the weight of the water.

Adam,

The large Screw Pumps are a modern version of the most ancient pump there is, based on designs by the Greek Engineer Archimedes. Check out this search in Google:

Archimedes Screw - Google Search Check the first link listed at Wikipedia. (I tried to link that here, but the full URL wouldn't transfer for some reason.)

This type of pump requires a rotational input. I think Ted is looking for a type of pump that could operate from the linear oscillations of the output of his machine. My recommendation would be the basic Diaphragm Pump. Check out this citation:

Diaphragm Pumps About - Engineers Edge

Hope this helps.

Peter

[Ted Ewert]

This will probably work just fine for only $30.00.
It's a diaphragm bilge pump with a capacity of 12-25 GPM.