Basic Free Energy Device

[voltan]

i think from memory, Matt is or was not a fan of the re-emf setup. something about puting juice in the charge battery at the wrong end kills them quicker. hope i got that right. what are your current thoughts on that Matt.
cheers.

[Turion]

interesting results

I just had someone call me with some interesting results with a different way of connecting some things on the 3BGS. Here is how he had it connected.

-of bat one...batt one +... - bat 2...batt 2 +...motor...+ bat 3...batt 3 -.. connected to minus of batt one to make a loop.

Then connect a 2nd motor between the - of batt 3 and - of batt 2. Don't ask why. Just ry it. Loooooooooooong runs.

[voltan]

gotta admit that's a bit unorthodox.

[Turion]

That's what I thought, but he says that while battery 2 is going down slowly, he is getting REALLY long runs, and both motors are running at speed as if connected to 12 volts. That's always good. And voltan, your drawing is correct.

[voltan]

I wonder if coupling the motors, maybe 2:1 could take this further. this could be the basis for a breakthrough in electric cars,boats,planes,cordless lawnmowers, power tools,etc,etc.... very keen to see feedback and updates on this. hopefully it's good enough to overcome the old bugbear of reliability and repeatability issues and works for everybody every time.

[blackchisel97]

I just had someone call me with some interesting results with a different way of connecting some things on the 3BGS. Here is how he had it connected.

-of bat one...batt one +... - bat 2...batt 2 +...motor...+ bat 3...batt 3 -.. connected to minus of batt one to make a loop.

Then connect a 2nd motor between the - of batt 3 and - of batt 2. Don't ask why. Just ry it. Loooooooooooong runs.

This is very interesting configuration or balancing act. I finally managed to get four brand new motors at very good price, including shipping from the US. The one I bought earlier (also from the US) cost me almost as much as I paid for them and it must sat submerged in water at some point. Even magnets no longer bonded with casing. Maybe salvageable but I'll use the new ones. Just need to get my hands on couple decent batteries as I recycled all, few years ago. It is good to see this thread still alive.


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[voltan]

if this early info is correct,what i like about it is B1's voltage holding up. also, any time B3's voltage is higher than B2's, i think it's fair to assume current should flow to balance them out. it raises some curious questions, like how does motor bemf affect battery current flow, and being fairly basic, hopefuly it's a good model to study and gain a better understanding of what's happening.
cheers

[Matthew Jones]

i think from memory, Matt is or was not a fan of the re-emf setup. something about puting juice in the charge battery at the wrong end kills them quicker. hope i got that right. what are your current thoughts on that Matt.
cheers.

Running batteries from the negative end will cause black fluid. Black Fluid is the crystal formation from the ground side plates breaking down into the fluid.

I have 3, 5 gallon buckets of black fluid in my shop from running a Tesla switch on some batteries for 8 months. The batteries no longer work and have since been recycled.

If that what your talking about. I do not know what the re emf is...

Matt

[voltan]

spot on Matt. i posted this (not my work), on another thread about july 2014 and as i recall you posted a caution about reduced battery life. it is a good looking scheme though. how did your tesla switch setup go while the batteries were good ?
cheers

[alman]

Running batteries from the negative end will cause black fluid. Black Fluid is the crystal formation from the ground side plates breaking down into the fluid...

Matt

Matt could you elaborate on this. "Running batteries from the negative". In my mind I think of running motors off of negatives, or charging with the negative. I may just be stupid too. aln

[Matthew Jones]

Matt could you elaborate on this. "Running batteries from the negative". In my mind I think of running motors off of negatives, or charging with the negative. I may just be stupid too. aln

Look at any 3 battery switch. If the load is between the negatives your fluid goes black inside the battery.

Matt

[alman]

Look at any 3 battery switch. If the load is between the negatives your fluid goes black inside the battery.

Matt

Matt
do you see a potential problem with the attachment as related to the black fluid? Specifically the circuit on the right.

After playing with the 3bgs, splitting the positives, cascading the recovery, and theses ideas for a limited time; then seeing Rick F. with his "loving giving paths" etc. who recommended running a load between the positives- then between the negatives running a pulse motor (which acts as a current limiter for the load between the positives) so far I have not yet experienced the black fluid, and do not want to. Thank you in advance, Aln

[Matthew Jones]

You believe what you want, Rick is Con Man and a thief, he has cost a lot of people in the past with his theological hypocrisy and so called circuits. If you are spending any amount of time try to look into what he has shown you are waisting your time and being primed for con that will most likely cost you money. He is liar and a cheat and everything he has ever shown or claimed was false except for the Bedini's stuff who he conveniently exploited for his gain.

That is all I have to say, leave me out of this conversation from here on out.

You will get black fluid from utilizing the ground side on ANY setup that utilizes a 3 battery type system. PERIOD. The lower the power the longer it takes.

Leave me alone.
Matt

[erfinder]

(which acts as a current limiter for the load between the positives) Aln

How does it feel to see whats being suggested, while simultaneously being blinded by the suggestion?

In my opinion, the heart of the matter has always been and will always be how the fields and or forces involved experience and or relate to opposition to change.

Systems like the topic of this thread whether known and understood by the many discussing it, deals with opposition to change on a level which has no equal in light of how things are done conventionally.

Effects generated in conventional systems, systems which operate in accordance with the established and accepted, this system amplifies, via augmentation. What I mean is a system configured to operate in electrical opposition, augments electrical opposition. It is established as fact (more or less) that the relations which exist between inducer and induced result in undesired association. The relation is unwanted in a conventional system. The system being considered is not a conventional system, and in truth (mine) cannot be compared with a conventional system. Such a system is both non linear and asymmetrical, very important attributes when you know how to take advantage of them.

The statement you made is where it begins, discover for yourself the many ways current limiting is taking place in any rotary mechanical, electrodynamic system. It matters not if the circuit is dynamo electric, or magneto electric, the result, all things considered, will be identical.

We fear that which we don't understand. These systems are reactors, they are based on opposition to change, and as such facilitate change. The black fluid shouldn't be feared. The desire to know why it manifests, and what it is should outweigh ones fear of it.


Regards

[Matthew Jones]

Screw it, it not even worth addressing a narcissistic personality disorder.

Listen to Er Finder he knows it all and he'll surly share it all with ya.

Everybody else is just a bunch low life liars trying to deceive you.