The simplest motor-generator system

[Franco malgarini]

The motor M1 is the mass regime to buy 1 KG a large centrifugal force
which is transmitted to the generator M2 through the principle of the lever:

[wrtner]

Its not a lever but rather a strange shaft.

But why would such an arrangement offer anything interesting?
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[Franco malgarini]

the centrifugal force (5 tons) developed by a sphere of 1 kg that comes spun by a motor at 50 cm distance, 3.000 g / m

[Turion]

Mechanical advantage?

What do you believe would be the difference between this design and simply putting a large flywheel between the motor and generator with one weight out at the rim at one point? I do not believe you would gain any mechanical advantage. You are not allowing the rotating weight to do any real work. It is just a strange flywheel, which will of course help the shaft to continue to rotate, but I believe that is ALL it will do. If you PULSE the motor, this flywheel helps to give you some "free"rotation, but you have to compare the free rotation you gain to the extra energy it took to get this thing to rotate in the first place, with all that weight out on the end of a single arm like that, or on the rim of a wheel.

Dave

[wrtner]

If you PULSE the motor, this flywheel ...

... starts to make the whole thing begin to remind us of the Watson variation of the Bedini FEG.

[Turion]

Exactly

All Watson did was build a much larger version of Bedini's machine. That is something I know a bit about, having spent the better part of the last two years working on a successful replication of it, but with THIS device (Franco malgarini's post) it is a question of whether or not there is a MECHANICAL advantage gained, and I see none.

Dave

[wrtner]

All Watson did was build a much larger version of Bedini's machine

It was a Titanic business. Would you want to reveal details of your implementation? I started with a car starter motor but the bearings on all those starter motors are so bad that i shelved the project.

I do agree with you about Franco's proposal. I can't see the point of the considerable added complexity with the out of balance force.

[Franco malgarini]

In a motor-generator system you can use even gravity.
The gravity machine works on the principle of resonance; so that this machine can operate continuously, needs a boost that provides them to overcome the dead angle. This is achieved through an auxiliary motor intended to intervene for a very short time, of the order of tenth of a second: It is a DC motor powered directly from the dynamo.





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[Turion]

Build it

Have you built this device and seen it work? Or is this just the posting of another theory about how it SHOULD work? Because I have built such devices, and to assume they will work is, as far as my experience with them goes, an INCORRECT assumption. You have friction and inertia to overcome, not to mention what will happen when you connect the output of the generator to the motor you are trying to run with it. As far as I can see, too much energy is wasted in this system that the design makes no attempt to reuse or capture. But if you have built it and can prove me wrong, I would like a little salt on my crow before I eat it please. And I promise you, if you build a working design, I will replicate it.

wrtner, I am sending you a PM. Don't want to detract from this thread talking about what i have built. It is too different.


Dave